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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 5 January 2014
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 5 January 2014 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 01/05/2014 5:10:00 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

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To: rodguy911

Sounds delicious! How about making me a batch and sending it up :-)

I may try it but lobster is very expensive here, even at Costco. I bet I could substute crab. We have a variety of clams and fish galore - might be fun to experiment a bit.

Do you make your own chicken and/or fish broth?


51 posted on 01/05/2014 6:38:45 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: Fishtalk

Sister Pat - Absolutely darling children!


52 posted on 01/05/2014 6:40:34 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: Alas Babylon!

FNS Panel

Income Inequality.

That seems to be the new media hot-button issue, along with immigration reform, for 2014.


53 posted on 01/05/2014 6:43:57 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Fishtalk

So what the woman is saying on Fox News is it is ok to take away the Nuns’ right to religion as long as she can worship abortion. We will see where the SC goes with that.

Pray America Wakes


54 posted on 01/05/2014 6:44:03 AM PST by bray ("The Republic of Texas 2022" is coming in Feb)
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To: Fishtalk

I’m looking into my crystal ball and I see you having dinner with a very handsome, lawyer and writer in the near future.


55 posted on 01/05/2014 6:44:04 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: bray

CONGRATS Bray-I am really looking forward to reading it. Keeps us posted. I look forward to your posting every week and sometimes forget to thank you for putting my thoughts to words in a more connected manner!


56 posted on 01/05/2014 6:46:38 AM PST by pugmama
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To: From The Deer Stand

Agree!

While it took a long time (I’m guessing they had a lot of backlash, otherwise they would have thought her “apology” on twitter was sufficient):

MSNBC host offers tearful apology to Romneys (Save the tears racist idiot!)
cnn ^ | 1/4/2014 | Conor Finnegan

Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2014 5:22:33 AM by tobyhill

MSNBC host Melissa Harris-Perry made a tearful apology to Mitt Romney’s family on her show Saturday, after she and a panel poked fun at a photo of the former Republican presidential candidate with his wife and 21 grandchildren by zeroing in on his adopted African-American grandson.

“Whatever the intent was, the reality is that the segment proceeded in a way that was offensive, and showing the photo in that context, of that segment, was poor judgment. So without reservation or qualification, I apologize to the Romney family,” said the anchor at the open of her show, “Melissa Harris-Perry.”

Harris-Perry became emotional as she went on to apologize to all “other families formed through transracial adoption,” saying, “I am deeply sorry that we suggested that interracial families are in any way funny or deserving of ridicule.”

She highlighted her own interracial background, as the daughter of an African-American man and a white Mormon woman. But, she said, families are always “off limits,” and the Romneys’ grandchildren should never have been a topic of discussion.

(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3108513/posts


57 posted on 01/05/2014 6:48:44 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: pugmama

Here is the cover and a little review of the original manuscript. I changed the story making it a lot better. It is a really good read now.

http://braylog.com/id47.html

I am hoping to get some big reviews and endorsements when the final version comes out which should be in 2-3 weeks.


58 posted on 01/05/2014 6:55:58 AM PST by bray ("The Republic of Texas 2022" is coming in Feb)
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To: TomGuy

While he (in between golfing and snorkling and the 4 min trip to his grandfather’s grave) blasts Pubbies for being on vacay and not passing an Unemployment extension (which, IMHO they should not do, even though the Dims will beat them over he head with it), he’s giving Moochelle Ma Belle a special birthday gift - she get’s to stay in Hawaii w/o the kids and him (not sure about the doggies). Sounds like a present for both - - he gets to spend more alone time with Reggie. Is he paying for her stay and the extra plane ride home? - -somewhat rhetorical question but he should be paying for it.

Also, I didn’t realize she had “friends” in Hawaii — did they fly them in from Chi-town and DC? Wonder if her Marxist college friend that’s a VP at CGI is part of the group.

Obama’s birthday gift to his wife? Time off, alone
cbsnews.com ^

Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2014 6:19:17 AM by Sub-Driver

CBS/Reuters January 5, 2014, 8: 26 AM Obama’s birthday gift to his wife? Time off, alone

HONOLULU - President Barack Obama is going to give his wife the birthday present that many parents can only dream of - time off, alone, without the children.

The White House said on Saturday first lady Michelle Obama would stay in Hawaii, where the family has been on vacation for the last two weeks, rather than return home with her husband and their two girls.

“As part of her birthday gift from the president, the first lady will remain in Hawaii to spend time with friends ahead of her upcoming 50th birthday,” a White House official said.

The president was leaving Honolulu late on Saturday after a vacation that was filled with several games of golf and dinners out. He and his children are scheduled to arrive in Washington on Sunday morning.

The Associated Press compiled a list of how President Obama spent his last day of vacation in Hawaii on Saturday:

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3108531/posts


59 posted on 01/05/2014 6:59:19 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: Seattle Conservative

Must be nice to spend and extra week for $10,000/night. After all 3 weeks hardly seems enough vacation for her while the rest of the country is in a recession.


60 posted on 01/05/2014 7:03:26 AM PST by bray ("The Republic of Texas 2022" is coming in Feb)
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To: Seattle Conservative
They’re still promoting sh_t and lying through their glossy whites.

Exactly SC you have their number and it remains "0".

Happy New Year to you as well. Glad to see you here again after a long, long absence.

Perfect example some black congressperson now on MTP defending how wonderful ozero care is and how it will be the savior or all saviors. These people will say or do anything to promote the decline of the nation.

61 posted on 01/05/2014 7:05:28 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Seattle Conservative

Great questions! Not that any in the driveby’s will ask, nor any node-less republicans...


62 posted on 01/05/2014 7:09:38 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Seattle Conservative
Hey I'm not good enough to make that stuff. I just eat it.! But, we do catch our own crawfish/lobster here in pretty good numbers. about 4 million pounds per year.

Last year the Chicoms bought them all. Doubled the price to the fisherman as well. Lots of variations on the recipe however.

63 posted on 01/05/2014 7:10:24 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: TomGuy

I’m listening to these boobs on MTP and man, were they born at night, LAST night?

They go on and on about more unemployment needed, that some poor Mom with five starving children are counting on that money while they seek a job.

Yeah, right.

My son-in-law is currently on unemployment and he will not seek a job until it runs out. I know he is but one but there are many. He gets, get this. $440 a week! Oh my he is having a great time and frankly I don’t see any reason why he should seek a job until he HAS to.

His unemployment, which is got dear Lord, via much calculation and scheming but quite legally I assure, runs out at the end of February. That’s for SIX months unemployment. If they extend it six more months, well God Bless America he will stay home the rest of the year.

He’s 50. If they keep extending unemployment he will be ready to retire by the time his unemployment runs out.

They want us all on the public teat and frankly, they make if difficult or illogical to stop it so long as they offer.


64 posted on 01/05/2014 7:13:21 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Fishtalk
I know Dubya has some idea of civilizing those bunch of heathens following an awful and oppressive religion bent on killing themselves and all around them. It was a good idea and might work if America will apply itself to the task.
NO, America's mission is to be AMERICAN, not to the worlds government. The last country to do this with any success was England. And the Indians KICKED them out of India after WWII.
If the U.S.A. does fight a WAR it should be for SELF INTEREST of the U.S.A. We should kill and destroy as many as quickly as possible and then go home. The first Bush did this semi successfully in Iraq. Had he killed Sadam Hussein the middle east would be differential to the U.S.A. today. Last good example of this was Israel in 1981 destroying the Osirak Nuclear reactor in IRAQ
65 posted on 01/05/2014 7:17:16 AM PST by DanZ
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To: bray
It was a great read before. At least the first 40 or 50 pages,can't wait to see the rest.Once you do radio/columns for newspapers/Internet you get a new respect for those who can put a good book together realizing just how much work and how hard it really is. The time it takes alone is the real killer.
66 posted on 01/05/2014 7:18:06 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Seattle Conservative

Rumors are that the big mooch has a SS boyfriend and that she may have been blackmailed as a result.


67 posted on 01/05/2014 7:21:00 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Just heard Rand Paul saying he would support legalization of the 11 million illegal aliens so they can come out of the shadows. He would give them work permits and expand the number of guest workers we import.

Rand doesn't seem to draw the connection between the 20 million unemployed/underemployed Americans and the insanity of giving work permits to 11 million lawbreakers and expanding the guest worker program.

Schumer says there will be comprehensive immigration reform (read amnesty) this year. If that happens, kiss the GOP's chances of taking the Senate or even holding the House.

68 posted on 01/05/2014 7:21:12 AM PST by kabar
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To: rodguy911

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/12/michelle-obama-secret-affair-rumors-surface/

Nothing new here old news but who knows.


69 posted on 01/05/2014 7:24:13 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: kabar

If Boehner takes up immigration/amnesty as he says he will it will probably cost us the Senate and who knows the country.


70 posted on 01/05/2014 7:26:07 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: TomGuy
Must be that one of them is in a tight election and has to appear to be conservative.

:)

71 posted on 01/05/2014 7:26:38 AM PST by upchuck (My Internet addiction is so bad... it's alt of ctrl.)
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To: DanZ

NO, America’s mission is to be AMERICAN, not to the worlds government. The last country to do this with any success was England. And the Indians KICKED them out of India after WWII.
If the U.S.A. does fight a WAR it should be for SELF INTEREST of the U.S.A. We should kill and destroy as many as quickly as possible and then go home. The first Bush did this semi successfully in Iraq. Had he killed Sadam Hussein the middle east would be differential to the U.S.A. today. Last good example of this was Israel in 1981 destroying the Osirak Nuclear reactor in IRAQ


If we are not willing to exactly define victory as a military event (in which the enemy is either extinguished or brought fully to Jesus) then count me among those who want nothing to do with this “endless war.”

Where’s my peace freak bumper sticker?

(OTOH, if we’re wasting them, where’s my tactical nuke launcher?)


72 posted on 01/05/2014 7:27:37 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: kabar

Just heard Rand Paul saying he would support legalization of the 11 million illegal aliens so they can come out of the shadows. He would give them work permits and expand the number of guest workers we import.
Rand doesn’t seem to draw the connection between the 20 million unemployed/underemployed Americans and the insanity of giving work permits to 11 million lawbreakers and expanding the guest worker program.


By and large the incumbent Republicans have given this issue away now. Your argument is more than just sound and probably close to- if not a majority view. But it is UNREPRESENTED in political DC.

As for Paul specifically, open borders squares with a libertarian view. That’s all there is to it. It’s one of the many and several reasons I’ll never align with libertarians.


73 posted on 01/05/2014 7:33:04 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: Alas Babylon!; rodguy911
Little too much caffeine this morning? Getting too cold for ya up there!LOL!

Not at all.

AB's just saying out loud something the 'Nam generation has been muttering under their breath for forty years.

...must'nt get anyone upset with any of that warmonger talk, donchaknow.

/megasarc

74 posted on 01/05/2014 7:38:30 AM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet (Needs but one foe to breed a war, and those who have not swords can still die upon them.)
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To: rodguy911

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/12/michelle-obama-secret-affair-rumors-surface/

Nothing new here old news but who knows.


This would not surprise me if it were true. Women with children via gay husbands do this kind of thing—fall in love with straight men, I mean.

To me, and it’s a peculiar thing I realize, it would be the only thing she ever did in her life (as far as I know) that would be OK with me. And I know I’m being a moral relativist, etc etc blah blah blah...

OK. Next chance I get on ANOTHER subject, I promise to bash her BIGTIME.


75 posted on 01/05/2014 7:39:21 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: PaleoBob

The U.A.S. - has a history of failed intervention.

W.W. II - the Yolta conference - The Left wing (Semi-Commie - Big Socialist) FDR gave Eastern Europe to Russian slavery. It took a real American, Mr. Reagen to free this part of the world

So, my take is simple - If the U.S.A. goes to War. We should kill the as many of enemies sons and NOT our sons.


76 posted on 01/05/2014 7:40:34 AM PST by DanZ
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To: rodguy911

It takes a lot of time. I bet it has 1000 hours in it, but it wasn’t work but fun. It has been a hobby and now I will have one for the bucket list, published. Next is profitable.

Thanks RG, you will like the changes, if you can get past 50 pages. I added some punch to it this weekend. I only have to fine tune a couple things before tomorrow.


77 posted on 01/05/2014 7:40:36 AM PST by bray ("The Republic of Texas 2022" is coming in Feb)
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To: PaleoBob

Didn’t know the SS hired the blind? Guess it makes sense in an AA world.


78 posted on 01/05/2014 7:45:45 AM PST by bray ("The Republic of Texas 2022" is coming in Feb)
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To: rodguy911
Agreed, especially the latter. Even without the massive increase in immigration contained in the Gang of 8 bill, the demographics of this country are changing rapidly thanks to current legal immigration policies that bring in 1.2 million immigrants a year, 87% of whom are minorities as defined by the USG. Immigrants and minorities vote two to one Dem.


79 posted on 01/05/2014 7:46:29 AM PST by kabar
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To: DanZ
If the U.S.A. does fight a WAR it should be for SELF INTEREST of the U.S.A. We should kill and destroy as many as quickly as possible and then go home.

Agreed. We should have been out of Afghanistan by the end of 2002, and out of Iraq by the end of 2004. And when we got to Baghdad so quickly with minimal losses, we should have gone into Tehran and solved that problem as well. Go in, solve the problem, and come home. Period.

Now we will never have that chance again. With Obama in the White House now and Hillary being pre-chosen by the media to replace him, it looks like we will continue to make nice speeches and maybe get into an occasional chick war or purse fight when the media acts like they want one.

80 posted on 01/05/2014 7:49:25 AM PST by Bernard (The Road To Hell is not paved with good results.)
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To: PaleoBob

Wasn’t the rumor that The Rev. Wright’s church put Barry and Mooch together to hide his gayness. I read that they picked her because her marriage prospects looked pretty dismal.


81 posted on 01/05/2014 7:52:08 AM PST by surrey
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To: PaleoBob
By and large the incumbent Republicans have given this issue away now. Your argument is more than just sound and probably close to- if not a majority view. But it is UNREPRESENTED in political DC.

Generally, I agree with you. The GOP is beholden to its corporate paymasters. I will say however, that Jeff Sessions and Steve King, among others have been excellent on the issue.

As for Paul specifically, open borders squares with a libertarian view. That’s all there is to it. It’s one of the many and several reasons I’ll never align with libertarians.

Right on point. The libertarians believe in the free flow of labor even across borders. They fail to understand the social, economic, and cultural impact on American citizens.

82 posted on 01/05/2014 7:52:12 AM PST by kabar
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To: surrey

Dismal? You mean there isn’t a big attraction to the angry Black female by men? Who would have thought?


83 posted on 01/05/2014 7:53:34 AM PST by bray ("The Republic of Texas 2022" is coming in Feb)
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To: rodguy911

The 15-day Hawaiian holiday vacation is over for President Barack Obama and daughters Sasha and Malia.

The president and his daughters arrived back at the White House on Sunday morning after an overnight flight.

Michelle Obama is staying behind on the islands as a birthday present from her husband.


84 posted on 01/05/2014 7:56:24 AM PST by kabar
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To: Fishtalk

I almost agree entirely, except I always think of Kerry as more of the Herman Muenster type....given Herman was a big buffoon and all.


85 posted on 01/05/2014 7:58:44 AM PST by Nekman (All of my friends think I'm psychic, because Obama has lived up to my worst fears!!)
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To: Seattle Conservative

A “gift” from 0bama??? WTF!!!

The taxpayers are covering the entire expense for those moochers and grifters on vacay in Hawaii


86 posted on 01/05/2014 7:58:53 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: kabar

This just doesn’t pass the smell test. I guess she needs to rest up for the birthday gala they will, no doubt, be throwing at the WH.


87 posted on 01/05/2014 8:01:00 AM PST by surrey
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To: Fishtalk
Okay, hot off the presses....my post of the review of that handsome's lawyer's book.....WITH a pic of the handsome lawyer.

Got big things going on with this column which, I say modestly, is read by EVERYONE who's ANYONE in Delaware.

Big things coming but it will be MY way or the highway.

HERE

88 posted on 01/05/2014 8:04:11 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: surrey

I guess the thrill of her beautiful biceps and clothes sense is not keeping enough kool-aiders in line, so a story that she is sexually attractive (to someone!) is floated.

I don’t buy it!!


89 posted on 01/05/2014 8:04:39 AM PST by maica (We are seeing an interesting mixture of malice and incompetence at healthcare.gov)
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To: Seattle Conservative
thanks, for recipes..shall cook this afternoon.
eat some, frig. leftovers. :-D

90 posted on 01/05/2014 8:06:42 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: Seattle Conservative

nobama trying to make up for his excursion with the blond at Mandella’s funeral?


91 posted on 01/05/2014 8:11:56 AM PST by upchuck (My Internet addiction is so bad... it's alt of ctrl.)
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To: Fishtalk

So okay one of my missions in life is to investigate ALL laws that political class tries to foist off on us, don’t know how but I somehow changed TWO laws, yeah, locally, but I DID IT! All it took was a citizen showing up and questioning these people so I shall be this citizen.

My local Rep is sponsoring a new law that will....I will phrase it as best I can, please indulge.....disallow secret compartments in vehicles.

This has something to do with drug running and I read of an example in Ohio where a guy got arrested just for having a secret compartment in his car. Understand he had NO drugs or illegal stuff, just that daggone secret compartment.

My rep sponsoring this has been trying to calm me down on Facebook but the hell with it, he has a constituent thing on the second Tuesday of every month, local bagel shop, dear Lord in the middle of nite at seven in the AM. But I’m going to show up because I want to understand this thing.

Guy’s pretty good, a cop but a good Republican....I got come issues with him.

I think it’s time him and I meet. He’s doing everything he can to calm me....but hey, I really like those bagels.

Anybody know anything about this? If I may insert my query between the Sunday shows.....what is this law?

I just hate that they keep passing laws that WE have to live under. This one citizen ain’t standing still for it.

For they WILL read the bill before it passes.


92 posted on 01/05/2014 8:14:45 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: upchuck; Hoodat

Possibly - she could have been ticked at him (pictures indicated she was) because of his lack of demeanor rather than his looking somewhat flirtatious. Though IF he is really Bathhouse Barry (as reported) and IF she is having an affair w a SS dude, it gives them more time together as well as Obummer w Reggie baby.

BTW - Spoiler Alert re CNN State of the Union:

Candy Crowley: If I’m Unemployed or on Minimum Wage, ‘Why Would I Become Republican?’
NewsBusters ^ | January 5, 2014 | 10:08 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2014 7:33:37 AM by Hoodat

On CNN’s State of the Union Sunday, host Candy Crowley asked a question of Gov. Scott Walker (R-Wisc.) that should offend people on both sides of the aisle.

“If I am an unemployed American…or if I am a minimum wage worker… why would I become a Republican?” (video follows with transcript and commentary):

(video link)

CANDY CROWLEY: If I am an unemployed American and I hear from Republicans that, “Yeah, you know, we should go ahead and do that provided we do the following three things,” and it’s a caveat approval of extending those [unemployment] benefits, or if I am a minimum wage worker and I find, I see Republicans who say, “You know what? It’s artificial, it messes with the marketplace, it might mean some teens can’t get into the job market,” why would I become a Republican? How do you message that in any way to reach out to those who are disinclined to sign up for the Republican Party?

Doesn’t Crowley know that she indicted the Democratic Party as one that is basically buying votes?

So someone that’s currently unemployed or on minimum wage must support politicians that promote policies that hurt the very job creation that might lead to them having better lives?

And if Republicans aren’t willing to support such failed policies, it behooves such an individual to be a Democrat thereby potentially condemning him or herself to mediocrity and possibly lifetime government dependence?

Clearly, Crowley has forgotten that in 1980, a great deal of unemployed and minimum wage workers voted for Ronald Reagan because they realized Democratic policies weren’t helping them.

As you would expect, Walker was ready for Crowley’s socialist view, and expertly countered it: . .

(Excerpt) Read more at newsbusters.org ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3108546/posts


93 posted on 01/05/2014 8:21:03 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: Nekman

John Kerry walks into a restaurant and the Maitre d says, “Good evening Mr Kerry, why the long face?”

Bada boom.


94 posted on 01/05/2014 8:21:56 AM PST by billyboy15
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To: kabar

Sounds more like a birthday present to her husband. Who would want to be around her for more than 10 mins?


95 posted on 01/05/2014 8:24:51 AM PST by bray ("The Republic of Texas 2022" is coming in Feb)
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To: TomGuy
Lots of action on Face the Nation; I missed Harry Reid but the panel was shocked that Harry has no plans for comity in 2014. He ripped republicans and TPers 5 times within the interview.

Panel takes this to mean that populism (income inequality, unemployment extensions, immigration, 'we-care-about-you-and-Republicans-don't' issues will be the Dems playbook in '14. ANYTHING but Obamacare.

One other gem from Peggy Noonan; she called NY Mayor de Blasio a Sandinista. Schieffer objected, Noonan corrected to clarify as "Sandinista supporter". LOL

96 posted on 01/05/2014 8:25:55 AM PST by chiller (NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)
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To: Seattle Conservative

We ain’t getting the unemployed vote anyway so why try? Stand up for those who are paying the freight and get their votes.

Pray America is Waking


97 posted on 01/05/2014 8:26:59 AM PST by bray ("The Republic of Texas 2022" is coming in Feb)
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To: Seattle Conservative
Doesn’t Crowley know that she indicted the Democratic Party as one that is basically buying votes?

This concept is doctrine for democrats. A caller to cspan this morning said the same thing, at length: Why would the poor in red states vote "against their own interest" as they elect Republicans.

So - taking more money from taxpayers, aka government, is the primary reason for the 'poor' to vote.

The idea that voting for persons who will bring more jobs to their locality (or stop the outflow of jobs) is never even mentioned.

98 posted on 01/05/2014 8:30:14 AM PST by maica (We are seeing an interesting mixture of malice and incompetence at healthcare.gov)
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To: Seattle Conservative

I assume you saw ALL the pics of nobama’s encounter. Many lamestream outlets left off the last picture which showed that nobama and the Wookie had traded seats and the blond was then looking the other way.

What a riot. How embarrassing for America!


99 posted on 01/05/2014 8:31:00 AM PST by upchuck (My Internet addiction is so bad... it's alt of ctrl.)
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To: Fishtalk
"6 months off"
well..he might as well "survive" on welfare, that 6 months
is a guaranteed "dark mark" on a professional resume.
I did that (unemployment) caring (cancer) for my dad,
I never recovered. I presumed they (employers) felt; I was lazy.
:-/

100 posted on 01/05/2014 8:36:26 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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