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Medicaid expansion under ObamaCare will lead to more emergency room visits, study suggests
fox news ^ | 1/5/2104 | fox news

Posted on 01/05/2014 5:48:05 AM PST by tobyhill

Capitol Hill Republicans are not surprised by a new study that suggests more people will make emergency room visits under ObamaCare, not fewer as President Obama and other supporters of the law argue.

The Harvard University study recently published in the journal Science shows that emergency room visits increased by 40 percent for those who received Medicaid when Oregon expanded the program in 2008.

“While these higher costs don’t come as a surprise to many, it has left us wondering why do Democrats call it the Affordable Care Act if the law doesn’t lower the cost of heath care,” said Michigan Republican Rep. Dave Camp, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee.

Roughly 2.1 million Americans have enrolled in ObamaCare since signups started in October, as the administration aims to eventually get health insurance to about 25 million Americans by 2016. And roughly half of those will be covered through Medicaid expansion.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; obamacare; zerocare
Ya think!!!
1 posted on 01/05/2014 5:48:05 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
These folks will go to these local emergency care centers...not the hospital emergency rooms....and ruin those. There are normally only a couple of patients in those centers so waiting is minimal.

Of course, I'm in a good area. Have no idea what will happen in the inner city.

2 posted on 01/05/2014 5:53:52 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: tobyhill

1. Through years of Medicaid (or no) coverage, families are conditioned to go to the ER.

2. Through years of dependence on the gubmint for everything, people cease to take responsibility for themselves and that includes preventive care and researching and learning how to treat common health problems at home.

3. Most people who have deductibles and/or co-pays self medicate and if things don’t improve, then they see the doctor. There’s no incentive to do that if you don’t pay a dime OOP.


3 posted on 01/05/2014 5:56:56 AM PST by randita
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To: tobyhill

My family doctor opposed Medicare/Medicaid. Back in 1965 he predicted what would happen. Coming back into private practice after WWII, he was astonished by the number of cases he picked up now that people had more money to spend. He told me that there is no limit to the demand for medical treatment, that much of it is unnecessary, and that by making it cheap, Medicare, medicaid would make doctors and hospitals wealthy but that prices would go out of sight. That eventually every medical person would become, in effect, a government employee.


4 posted on 01/05/2014 5:58:57 AM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: tobyhill

Obama and his party are going to have a lot of explaining to do in the near future.


5 posted on 01/05/2014 6:03:03 AM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: tobyhill

It’s not just Medicaid that will cause increases.

These people are just simply IGNORANT of human nature, especially the entitlement generation’s nature! If people think they now have more/cheaper access to something, they will increase their usage of said access at a disproportionate rate!!

So, Doctors WILL SEE more patients for every little ailment! ERs will see more patients for every little ailment!

ObamaCare was NEVER about providing healthcare! You CANNOT increase users by 20 million, but not increase practitioners by a significant proportion! PERIOD! This law DISCOURAGES people from becoming doctors - the LAST thing you would want if you were seriously trying to provide more healthcare to more people!!


6 posted on 01/05/2014 6:10:02 AM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: tobyhill

Speaking of this here in Ohio...Kasich, the sell-out-phoney...

The Tea Party guy was to run against Kasich pulled his name and now will not run against Kasich...

Anyone seen why? I haven’t...I suspect threatened by the Washington Mafia...(Boehner, et al).


7 posted on 01/05/2014 6:19:20 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Pajama-boy-in-chief's beatings continue until morale improves.)
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“...40 percent increase in emergency department visits among those low-income adults...”

Because their needs are above everyone else and they don’t care about expense - mostly they are used to handouts and direct service from govt liberals who pander to their laziness and stupidity!

I remember when I temporarily lived in WV and Bush gave back $200 per person one year as a tax refund extra - and all the welfare people complained they didn’t get a check for $200 and why they were left out...they had no knowledge of taxes and refunds - they just expected to be on the list of giveaways once more...

And they vote!

Real problems — should have never allowed the 10 Commandments out of public school - should have continued with high expectations of our youth - competition - losers/winners - and the desire to better oneself as the normal...and now look at the US...sad state of affairs ladies and gentlemen....


8 posted on 01/05/2014 6:19:38 AM PST by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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To: Sacajaweau

They will go to the ER because they can’t be turned away like they can everywhere else, and they don’t care about the cost because they pay nothing.

Even the ‘Doc in a Box’ can refuse medicaid patients, just like private practice Doctors do.


9 posted on 01/05/2014 6:25:08 AM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are Affirmative Action for Slackers! .)
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To: RobbyS

My sister-in-law works PR for a major hospital - and I asked her this past holiday about the impact of the ACA on hospitals nationwide...she aid her hospital alone takes in 60% federal funds that pay for patients there — and that the ACA is moving to make sure it’s 100%...where people who want to negotiate a price for a medical procedure and pay out of pocket - won’t be able to...Welcome to the Hunger Games!


10 posted on 01/05/2014 6:26:35 AM PST by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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To: BCW

Back in the ‘20s, medical doctors and college professors were paid about the same. The way things are being rigged now, the same will again be true before many years have passed. The only “free professionals” will soon be the lawyers. That’s because they manufacture the laws.


11 posted on 01/05/2014 6:40:03 AM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: tobyhill

I turn 65 this year and expect to have a difficult time finding a doctor who is still accepting new Medicare patients. If I need care that is even semi urgent I may have no choice but to go the local hospital ER as I will either not have a physician or might have to drive miles to some government clinic in the ghetto to stand in line for care.


12 posted on 01/05/2014 7:40:58 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Beagle8U

http://www.urgentcareconsultant.com/blog/index.php?/archives/20-Urgent-Care-Is-ObamaCare-Ready.html


13 posted on 01/05/2014 7:41:27 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau
Nothing in your link said anything about accepting medicaid, or obamacare insurance policies for that matter.
14 posted on 01/05/2014 7:56:22 AM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are Affirmative Action for Slackers! .)
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To: tobyhill

Around the year 2000, my husband had to have a serious operation, a bypass of his aorta which goes down the body from the heart. His incision would go completely down his abdomen and into each leg. It was a know fact that death from this surgery happens. The night before the surgery, he was put in a room for two patients. A man patient was brought into the room and he was filthy.

After a time, a nurse went in to get him to sign some papers. He said, “I’m not signing anything and you have to treat me.” The nurse explained if he signed the papers, some of the expense would be paid. He refused and the nurse left.

I went out to the nurse and asked her to move my husband to another room for he would have to use the bathroom and so would that filthy man and we didn’t want germs around him with the bad surgery happening the next morning. They moved my husband to a single room. After the surgery, he had a nylon aorta.

The point is, “homeless” people, derelicts who live under bridges and sleep in doorways know they will get care and they don’t think of expense, it’s just “give it to me”.


15 posted on 01/05/2014 8:12:55 AM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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