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It's all about Obamacare again in 2014: Farmer
The Star-Ledger ^ | January 05, 2014 | John Farmer

Posted on 01/05/2014 8:25:36 AM PST by Kenny

The year ahead promises tough gut-check tests for the nation, including domestic and foreign policy challenges likely to determine the fate of the Obama presidency. No domestic issue will have a greater impact on the president — and on the electoral fortunes of both parties — than the success or failure of the Affordable Care Act — better known as Obamacare.

Republicans are counting on it to flop spectacularly. It’s their big election bet. The health insurance plan, they believe, will prove a mortal mistake, undermining the Obama presidency and handing the GOP complete congressional power in this fall’s midterm elections.

But it’s a gamble. If by November the president’s plan, his signature domestic initiative, hasn’t recovered from its stumbling start, odds favor Republicans to score well in the elections, holding on to their House majority and gaining at least the six seats necessary for control of the Senate, now in Democratic hands.

If on the other hand, the ACA lives up to Obama’s sales pitch — with enrollees in vast numbers entering the system with relative ease and moderate premium costs — Republicans will be hard-pressed to explain their unrelenting assault on the program as Armageddon itself and their obstructionist tactics in Congress and in Republican-run states.

The stakes for Obama couldn’t be higher. Even his credibility and the value of his promises and other commitments are at risk in the success or failure of the ACA.

On the foreign policy front, the central issue is Iran and Obama’s hope of winning Tehran’s agreement to curtail its nuclear program in return for a minimal relaxation of the sanctions crippling that country’s economy.

Under terms of the tentative bargain reached late last year, Iran must agree to the West’s terms within six months or the current sanctions regimen remains in place, or is even toughened.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.nj.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; abolishobamacare
And so it begins, talking points from "news outlets", touting the "recovering economy" and steering the sheeple away from Obamacare. But, as the article says, Republicans are putting all their eggs in the healthcare basket at least up until they see they can't win on that issue alone.
1 posted on 01/05/2014 8:25:36 AM PST by Kenny
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To: Kenny
perhaps the repubican party needs to quote Lenin....on so called helathcare?

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2 posted on 01/05/2014 8:28:22 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ( a Safe..and Sane....2014 To All!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Fix Obamacare, don’t remove it. There is a big “fix” of people who are covered now, who were not previously covered in America.

Your idiocy knows no bounds......there is no "fix" to a law that is designed to bring power to one party, a law that was always about control and not about making health care better.

I'll double down, that post of yours is one of the most inane and stupid posts ever recorded on FR.

4 posted on 01/05/2014 8:35:10 AM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“Fix Obamacare, don’t remove it.”

Socialism doesn’t work, there is NO way to fix it!


5 posted on 01/05/2014 8:39:08 AM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are Affirmative Action for Slackers! .)
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To: Lakeshark

I’ll back down.

I cannot discuss this issue freely, so I will stop talking about it.

Just be aware there are protections which are good, and I believe that is one. That is all.

Over and out.


6 posted on 01/05/2014 8:40:32 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
There is NO protection in this law that is good, not ONE. This was never about making health care better, or actually helping anyone, it was about who could control what. So yes, you'd be wise to back down, you can discuss it as freely as you want, this is an open forum, but you shouldn't believe you can say stupid things without being called on it.
7 posted on 01/05/2014 8:44:32 AM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: Kenny

From the article “If by November the president’s plan, his signature domestic initiative, hasn’t recovered from its stumbling start, odds favor Republicans ...”

Let me just say that if this thing is still such a hash by Nov, 2014 we are going to have bigger problems than just the fate of the politicians, of either party.


8 posted on 01/05/2014 8:44:58 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Lakeshark

Like I said.

This is a topic I cannot discuss freely.

I have requested my original post be deleted, I strongly support it but it is likewise strongly opposed by the owner of this site so I stand down.

FReegards.


9 posted on 01/05/2014 8:46:33 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Lakeshark

Thanks!


10 posted on 01/05/2014 8:47:21 AM PST by willgolfforfood
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To: MeshugeMikey
Perfect! States it all very simplistically. (Even for the LIV's)
11 posted on 01/05/2014 8:47:41 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Due to the fact we now live in a Fascist Police State dictatorship, you must understand that laws mean nothing. Obamacare is whatever Obama says it is...he illegally changes it day to day at his whim....not by rule of Constitutional law.

Welcome to the Banana States of America.


12 posted on 01/05/2014 8:49:40 AM PST by OldArmy52 (The question is not whether Obama ever lies, but whether he ever tells the truth.)
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To: Jane Long
thats the key! I once designed a brochure for Direct Mail...that got a 25 PERCENT return rate

twenty five percent of the brochures mailed....inspired Phone Inquiries.

what better projects to put that experience to...than helping stave off the ultimate socio political disaster!!


13 posted on 01/05/2014 8:51:09 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ( a Safe..and Sane....2014 To All!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I'm sorry to hear that someone on FR can actually believes there is anything in this law that doesn't have to do with the empowerment and enshrinement of one party rule for the democrats.

That you can't see the obvious truth after all this time is frankly a bit disturbing. That you somehow believe we should "fix" this monstrosity of a totalitarian bill is beyond comprehension.

FReegards back.

14 posted on 01/05/2014 8:52:12 AM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: OldArmy52

I wish I could say you exaggerate.

My mom grew up in the nazi regime. She says she’s grateful she won’t live too many years longer as she’s seen it all before.


15 posted on 01/05/2014 8:53:04 AM PST by Anton.Rutter
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Fixing socialized/ultimate single payer *healthcare* will win votes for Pubbies?? REally?

Not sure if you've noticed, but EVERY TIME Pubbies bend over and acquiesce for the left's programs, we take another kick in the teeth. Please tell me exactly where increased spending, expanding welfare and funding 0Care have garnered support - by their base - for Pubbies.

Why *fix* socialism for the leftists? Why destroy the (currently) greatest healthcare system in world? Whose side are you on?

16 posted on 01/05/2014 8:54:57 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Jane Long

(Sorry no comment, I’m out of this thread)

With best regards.

:D


17 posted on 01/05/2014 8:56:26 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: MeshugeMikey

We need postcards of this to leave behind, everywhere! It would also be nice to see this posted on outside sites, at comments. An excellent graphic to spread the message.


18 posted on 01/05/2014 8:58:01 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: All

"Those Democrats leering over my shoulder owe me bigtime. This
healthcare bill insures we have a permanent Democratic majority."

" All except those Tea Party types, swallowed hook, line and sinker my promises that they could:
(1) keep their existing health plans,
(2) keep their own doctors that they like,
(3) keep their 25-year-olds on the family health plan,
(4) never be denied coverage for a pre-existing condition,
(5) sign up instantly on my tech-savvy government Web site,
(6) buy insurance only after becoming seriously ill."
(7) save $2,500 in annual premiums in the bargain....
(8) All without any new taxes."

"Them sonovagun Tea Partiers will rue the day they criticized my wonderful bill."

19 posted on 01/05/2014 9:05:14 AM PST by Liz
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To: Kenny
If on the other hand, the ACA lives up to Obama’s sales pitch — with enrollees in vast numbers entering the system with relative ease and moderate premium costs

So, by January 5, we have the best joke of the year. None others need apply.

20 posted on 01/05/2014 9:35:40 AM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Kenny
likely to determine the fate of the Obama presidency

Oh? There's really a big difference between abject failure and "unmitigated disaster?"

21 posted on 01/05/2014 10:22:04 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: Kenny

Obama illegally delayed the ACA employer mandate until 2015. It’s illegal because the President has no power to change a law by executive action. He did it to postpone the employer mandate until after the 2014 midterm elections. I don’t think the postponement will be enough to hide the bad things to come with the mandate. Companies and public organizations have already begun to reduce full time employees to part time. Layoffs will follow to get under 50 full time equivalents (FTEs). The cut off is 30 hours and 50 FTEs. Other companies may just dump offering health care altogether and pay the penalty. This summer will be ugly as more and more employers prepare for the mandate.


22 posted on 01/05/2014 1:14:31 PM PST by IndispensableDestiny
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To: Jane Long
hmmm postcards are failry inexpensive these days given the advent of printing professional four color images on glossy stock for a fraction of what it used to cost.

Great Idea!

whenever Ive tried to post this stuff on a couple of forums.... like the demagogue underground they keep throwing me out.... for some reason


23 posted on 01/05/2014 2:39:31 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( a Safe..and Sane....2014 To All!)
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