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BCS gets its not-so-fond farewell
Columbia Daily Tribune ^ | Sunday, January 5, 2014 at 2:00 am

Posted on 01/05/2014 1:05:40 PM PST by Dave346

Edited on 01/05/2014 3:02:29 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

NEWPORT BEACH, Calif. (AP) There will be a funeral amid the celebration after the BCS National Championship Game tomorrow.

No. 1 Florida State or No. 2 Auburn will be the last team to hoist the $30,000 Waterford crystal football that goes to college football's champion and has become emblematic of the Bowl Championship Series. Then the BCS will be buried in the Rose Bowl after 16 years of revolutionizing the sport and frustrating so many of its fans and participants.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: athletics; bcs; bowlgames; collegefootball
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1 posted on 01/05/2014 1:05:40 PM PST by Dave346
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To: Dave346

The playoff won’t fix anything. it will probably make it worse. people just aren’t thinking this through.

prediction: this time next year, people will be screaming about the unfairness of the playoff selection process. teams 5, 6, and 7 will have a legitimate gripe.


2 posted on 01/05/2014 1:10:25 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JohnBrowdie

I agree completely.


3 posted on 01/05/2014 1:12:35 PM PST by EEGator
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To: JohnBrowdie

When they made it a 4 team playoff I knew it was just to shut people up, and to position them to end the NCAA. To be a real playoff it needed at least 8 teams, 16 even better.


4 posted on 01/05/2014 1:15:43 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: Dave346

“the BCS did everything it was intended to do and then some.”

Made lots of people lots of money and then some, at the expense of true competition.

The new “playoff” should be the top eight, not four.


5 posted on 01/05/2014 1:16:32 PM PST by Rennes Templar (If you like your disease, you can keep it.)
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To: Dave346

Why is college football being ruled by people who hate college football? If you like professional football, watch it. Instead, they decided to destroy college football.


6 posted on 01/05/2014 1:17:31 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: JohnBrowdie

And the 5 and 6 teams will sleepwalk through their bowl games like Bama did, because the other bowl games are now to college football what the NIT is to college basketball.


7 posted on 01/05/2014 1:18:32 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: JohnBrowdie

All the whining and complaining about which teams don’t make the basketball tournament....now we’ll have it for football too.


8 posted on 01/05/2014 1:18:37 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Exactly...which is why it will eventually be expanded to 8 and after a few more years to 16 teams. Sure, in a ranking system there will be an argument between who’s 16 and 17, but such teams have no chance to win the championship anyway. I say, let the top 16 teams have at it starting as soon as possible!!!


9 posted on 01/05/2014 1:19:03 PM PST by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: discostu

You still have to pick the teams. People are being absolutely duped.

the “injustice” lies in the conference structure. if you really want to “fix” college football, you start by blowing up the conferences. you can’t put a playoff on the backend of a rigged system and call it “fair”.


10 posted on 01/05/2014 1:19:41 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Rennes Templar

Why stop there? People who need that, just don’t like college football. College football is not professional football. There aren’t 32 teams. These people have ruined everything college football stands for. They might as well abolish college football. They can create a minor league NFL. I have total contempt for these playoff people.


11 posted on 01/05/2014 1:22:12 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Mustangman

Why don;t you just watch the NFL, since you don’t like college football?


12 posted on 01/05/2014 1:23:05 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Dave346

“It became cool to criticize it, which is unfortunate,”
The Bush administration.

“That’s when I knew the thing was doomed,”
America, when Hussein was elected


13 posted on 01/05/2014 1:23:57 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Mustangman

It still wouldnt accomplish anything. But even if I bought your argument, It would take a month to play out a 16 team playoff bracket. Are you going to just add that onto the back if the season?

I wonder what happens when some heisman trophy winner shreds his knee and ruins his nfl career because a bunch of spoiled college football fans want their delusion of fairness.


14 posted on 01/05/2014 1:24:18 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Are you being sarcastic? You just don’t like college football. Why rip apart something you don’t like, so the people who do like it can’t enjoy it.


15 posted on 01/05/2014 1:25:17 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: JohnBrowdie

That would be the advantage of a 16 team playoff, it would get deep enough into the chart to get past the conferences. The goal of what they setup though is the end the NCAA and make the conference winners the entries into this playoff. At least they’ll kill the NCAA.


16 posted on 01/05/2014 1:25:27 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: JohnBrowdie

There’s already a month inbetween the end of the season and the championship game, all a 16 team playoff does is put meaningful football in that gap that’s currently occupied by air and bad bowl games.


17 posted on 01/05/2014 1:28:29 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: nickcarraway

No, I don’t like what people like you want to turn college football into.


18 posted on 01/05/2014 1:29:19 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: discostu

Make the sports teams separate from the universities, and dissolve the NCAA.

It is the farm team for the NFL, treat it like one.


19 posted on 01/05/2014 1:35:19 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

The won’t separate from the universities, it gives them too much money. But they can leave the NCAA, they just need to figure out what they’ll replace it with. One thing for sure, there won’t be any such thing as “recruiting violations” in the replacement.


20 posted on 01/05/2014 1:37:24 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: discostu

Your persepective on college football obviously begins and ends at the tv remote control. who are you to decide what “bad football” is? who has appointed these people to arrange college football to suit their holiday viewing pleasure?

leave the damn game alone. All of this tinkering around to “perfect” college football is a decidedly liberal notion in the first place.


21 posted on 01/05/2014 1:38:16 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: nickcarraway

Wait. I thought we were arguing. Lol. I totally and completely agree with this.


22 posted on 01/05/2014 1:43:08 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Well obviously I don’t get to change things or a system that doesn’t give half the teams bowl games would already have been shot in the head because it sucks. If you look at the ratings of these bowl games though you see there’s lots of people that think having the 5th ranked team in some random conference play the 6th ranked team in some random conference makes for bad football that nobody bothers to watch. Most of the bowl games get lousy ratings and don’t even happen in front of sold out audiences.

It’s not about changing the game, the game is fine, it’s about changing the post season, which is atrocious and stupid, and losing money. There’s nothing liberal about realizing that the system is flawed. Being smart enough to realize it can be made better is not political.


23 posted on 01/05/2014 1:44:11 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: discostu

you can’t fix the problem because you don’t even know what the problem is.

college football is about much, much more than tv ratings. first of all, it’s about college. if you don’t get that, then your entire foundation is flawed.

don’t mess with my alma mater. don’t mess with it’s football program. it doesn’t need people “fixing” it. it’s fine without you.


24 posted on 01/05/2014 1:49:48 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: lacrew

bingo. and if you get screwed out of a playoff berth, you literally just got screwed out of a shot at the national title.

this makes it worse, not better.


25 posted on 01/05/2014 1:52:58 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Sorry but you’re living in the past. College football is about revenue first. It hasn’t been about college first since the 60s. Nobody care who your alma mater is. And sorry but it does need fixing, because it’s a system that’s eating itself. The bowl system has gotten stupid there are simply too many of them, the NCAA rewriting history constantly has become the laughing stock of every aspect of the game, then there’s the super conferences. The system is broken, and it’s just getting worse.


26 posted on 01/05/2014 2:09:48 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: nickcarraway

The FCS has an excellent playoff program; playoffs certainly are part of college football; who doesn’t want to know who’s best? I have contempt for the Bowl people, not a playoff system.


27 posted on 01/05/2014 2:10:04 PM PST by Rennes Templar (If you like your disease, you can keep it.)
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To: Rennes Templar

The bliss of the fcs playoff system is a delusion. the argument goes like this; “see? look there. fcs has a playoff, and there is no controversy. no drama at all”.

the lie is that it’s the playoff that prevents the controversy, when in fact there is no controversy because no one cares who the fcs champion is. you could literally steal the fcs championship at gunpoint, and no one would notice.


28 posted on 01/05/2014 2:15:34 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Strange, I haven’t heard a lot of complaining about who gets to play in the championship game this year...guess the BCS worked.


29 posted on 01/05/2014 2:16:21 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: lacrew

Yep. and people are going to go insane the first time all four playoff teams come out of the sec. that would be the exact opposite of what a playoff is supposed to accomplish.

people are getting duped. They have so much blind faith in the unexamined magic of the word “playoff”, that they simply aren’t thinking the thing through.


30 posted on 01/05/2014 2:21:58 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Even if it were true that “no one cares” about the FCS (you obviously have not been part of a FCS playoff school ), that does not diminish the fact that the FCS system works 100x better than the BsCS to select the best team.


31 posted on 01/05/2014 2:31:43 PM PST by Rennes Templar (If you like your disease, you can keep it.)
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To: discostu

if we were to substitute “healthcare” for “college football”, and “affordable” for “revenue”, you would sound precisely like nancy pelosi right now.

precisely.


32 posted on 01/05/2014 2:32:07 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JohnBrowdie

The fact that you need to make this personal and haven’t even attempted to discuss any facts shows you know you have none. Sad really, but too bad for you. Let me know if you get the capability of having an adult conversation.


33 posted on 01/05/2014 2:33:59 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: JohnBrowdie

It’ll be a few years, but I look forward to playoff expansion to include 8 or (preferably) 16 teams. Championships will be far more meaningful when that happens. With the 16 top-ranked teams getting in, there may still be bleating and whining from teams that don’t get in, but any team with a legitimate argument to be #1 would make it in for their shot easily.


34 posted on 01/05/2014 2:36:11 PM PST by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: discostu

you aren’t the supreme arbiter of what a “fact” is.

I didn’t make anything personal. I was simply exposing a paralell that I thought perhaps had escaped your notice; playoff people are closet utopians.


35 posted on 01/05/2014 2:39:42 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Junior_G

if the subjective nature of the mechanism of selection is the problem, and it is, then you aren’t fixing anything.

You aren’t solving the problem, you’re moving it, and thereby actually expanding and exacerbating it.


36 posted on 01/05/2014 2:55:25 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JohnBrowdie

They’ll just expand it to a 64 team tournament, plus a play in game.

Some people won’t know I’m joking.


37 posted on 01/05/2014 2:59:33 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: lacrew

lol. would you believe I have actually heard 64 seriously suggested? typically, it involves cutting the regular season in half. for those that worship at the alter of the sacred playoff, nothing is spared, and nothing is too extreme.

by the way, the fact that college basketball runs a tournament field of 64 is an admission that the selection process is inherently flawed and arbitrary - their imperfect solution is to make the field so outrageously huge that by the time you get to the schools that got screwed, they are typically such small institutions that no one really takes any notice.

that’s neither “fair” nor “fixed”. In fact, it’s almost the exact opposite. it’s knowingly screwing the littlest guy possible.


38 posted on 01/05/2014 3:15:57 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: lacrew

I say we do 128 teams.


39 posted on 01/05/2014 3:18:03 PM PST by EEGator
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To: EEGator

There are only 126 FBS teams. We’ll pick up DeVry Institute and University of Phoenix.


40 posted on 01/05/2014 3:21:14 PM PST by EEGator
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To: EEGator

All of them? Perfect. I like it. Lol.


41 posted on 01/05/2014 3:22:39 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Mustangman
Sure, in a ranking system there will be an argument between who’s 16 and 17, but such teams have no chance to win the championship anyway.

On any given day...

42 posted on 01/05/2014 3:22:49 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: EEGator

Or maybe pick Alabama three times. Heh.


43 posted on 01/05/2014 3:24:55 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JohnBrowdie

The playoff format, will be whatever ESPN says it is. ESPN, controls college football now.


44 posted on 01/05/2014 3:25:27 PM PST by Despot of the Delta
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To: Despot of the Delta

Indeed. this is yet another facet of the horrifying little story. espn is calling most of these shots.

when the revolution comes, espn should be first against the wall.


45 posted on 01/05/2014 3:29:00 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JohnBrowdie

That was the whole purpose of the LSU/Bama rematch.


46 posted on 01/05/2014 3:30:34 PM PST by Despot of the Delta
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To: Despot of the Delta

The espn angle really is a good point, and is sometimes overlooked. The playoff people actually think they will be in control of this thing, when, in fact, it will be entirely an espn production. “people” won’t decide who gets in the bracket, or who plays whom, or where they play. Espn will decide all of that.

it’s another way the playoff advocates are getting punked by forces that they don’t understand. They’re doing espn’s bidding, and they don’t even seem to realize it.


47 posted on 01/05/2014 3:36:38 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JohnBrowdie
Here is an excerpt from the New Orleans paper after that game Magnus, who won’t be involved in today’s discussions but will be an interested party since ESPN has first refusal on whatever format the commissioners come up with, said he also expects change. (Burke Magnus is senior vice president for college sports programming) http://www.nola.com/bcs/index.ssf/2012/01/changes_likely_in_store_for_bc.html
48 posted on 01/05/2014 3:42:26 PM PST by Despot of the Delta
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To: Despot of the Delta

Fascinating. I didn’t know that.


49 posted on 01/05/2014 3:46:10 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JohnBrowdie

ESPN played it perfect. And I still say LSU took a dive that game, it was to obvious.


50 posted on 01/05/2014 3:49:55 PM PST by Despot of the Delta
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