Fixed it.
Posted on 01/05/2014 4:41:51 PM PST by COBOL2Java
Edited on 01/05/2014 4:47:03 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
CHICAGO (AP) -- It's an assertion that has been accepted as fact by droves of the unemployed: Older people remaining on the job later in life are stealing jobs from young people.
One problem, many economists say: It isn't supported by a wisp of fact.
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Also, now that they won’t have to worry about paying for their employees’ healthcare, one of the major advantages of offshoring goes “bye bye.”
As a supervisor (years ago), I had to attend seminar after seminar on how to be a good supervisor. I got pretty sick of the constant emphasis on ‘us’ so at one of these things, I asked the instructor when they were going to start seminars on how to be a “good employee” .... you know, those details like coming to work on time, being dressed appropriately, general ‘office’ etiquette, things that should just be a “given” and that we supervisory types had to waste time with and attend seminars to learn how to correct without getting the company sued for discrimination or something. She was speechless - never did answer the question.
Mine too. If you’re over 50 and still have a job, try to keep it for as long as you can. Once you’re unemployed over that age, it’s a lot harder to get another job.
Circular logic. Nobody is hiring young people because the older people are holding onto their jobs. Nobody is hiring old people because employers are afraid they’ll get sick and drive up health care costs.
The jobs aren’t there because we have an anti-business president and his party. But that would be racism to say that.
What?
Draw attention away from the failures and horrors of Obamacare.
Keep Americans envious and suspicious of each other.
Stir up resentment of neighbors, friends and relatives.
Divide us into groups and keep those groups pitted against one another.
That’s the Obama Land way.
Fixed it.
Misleading The problem isn’t old people working. The problem is the wholesale destruction of millions of jobs these last four years so that old and young alike are being hurt.
Got to be kidding.
While some older workers may remain on the job, no company is hiring an older worker from the outside unless filling an affirmative action goal.
It’s like the big hype about the need for “STEM” graduates.
NO! THE ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE BEEN STEALING AMERICAN JOBS FOR YEARS AND THE RINOS WANT TO MAKE THEM LEGAL SO THEY CAN BRING THE REST OF THEIR FAMILIES AND STEAL MORE AMERICAN JOBS.
lets see... Medicare went from 65 to 66+ and will be 70 soon, combined with the market crash, what are we supposed to do???
Just wait until FedGov decides to give all of an unpleasant haircut on our life savings, savings that were the cornerstone of our retirement plans. NOBODY will be able to retire after that. Everybody will work until they die on the job.
If you’re like me, 60k was a huge amount of money back then. Today, not so much. You used to buy a mansion for that...today it buys you a cardboard box. Roughly speaking, of course.
No, the jobs are occupied by illegals. But more significantly, the majority of youth under 25 aren’t even bothering to look for work - they are amassing huge debt that will never be discharged via bankruptcy, with little likelihood of finding a job that will pay off that massive debt, living at home with their parents, on their parent’s health plans.
The insignificant portion ‘taken’ by older workers is the leftovers that youth haven’t even bothered to apply for.
But of course, economists have already stated this.
Damn right. When I was young, jobs were so scarce, kids actually dressed nice for an interview at McDonald’s.
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Correct etc but, this isn’t really a new problem.
I was ‘fortunate’ that I was ‘allowed’ to work while a teenager in HS, and between working and schooling by the Nuns, I was more than ready when I joined the Navy at 17.
By the time I got out at 25 I was ‘ready’ for the world.
Even in the 80’s - back when I was still drinking - I remember people come sashaying into the bar at 1PM or so, sit down, have a drink or two, THEN ask if the bar was hiring.
Very rare when someone came in with a pen to fill out the application and when asked - mostly by someone like me - “What would possess you to have a drink BEFORE the interview” and the stock answer would be along the line of “I wanted to see what kind of customers I would be serving”.
I used to have a ‘rule of thumb’ that if you showed up looking for work at 6AM with your lunch, I would find something for you to do.
I worked at/ran Asphalt Companies and/or Plants which made it possible to have and keep that attitude.
Sixty K is more than I make now but it ain’t really all that much. At age 25 in 1969 with no degree I was earning $7700. a year which bought a heck of a lot more cars, houses, gasoline and groceries than $60000. will buy now. There were jobs available for young people with a fresh degree offering as much as I was earning or more along with a company car and expense account and other great benefits which probably amounted to the equivalent of a hundred grand a year or more now. What a nice apartment rented for in those days in Charlotte, NC will buy a couple of bags of groceries now. Health insurance was not even a concern for someone at that age, you could buy very good coverage for ten or fifteen dollars a month as an individual if you did not have employer paid insurance. If you had no insurance you could walk into the doctor’s office with no appointment, sit down and wait and usually see the doctor within an hour or two and pay five dollars for the visit.
Recent studies have reported that a new college degree now is worth considerably LESS on the job market than a public high school diploma was worth in my day. It’s hard for me to blame the young folks for being unhappy when they spend years getting a degree, run up big student loans and then wind up taking a job that I would not have considered taking as a high school graduate.
One would suppose that you have been to divorce court one or twice.. I have, and it's not the halls of justice, no matter what it's called.. jus sayin.. :)
The higher the minimum age, the more likely. Would you hire a 16 year old to flip burgers or a 60 year old? Which would know more, which would you assume would be most reliable? A “retired” senior citizen could get excited about flipping burgers for $15 an hour. Minimum wage increases attracts older people now. The youngsters are the losers in this game. They have no experience, no skills, and no proven record.
Some people just don’t seem to realize what has happened to the dollar. In a lot of places sixty thousand won’t buy you a tiny lot to put a cardboard box on. I was born during WWII and I clearly recall when that much would have bought a large farm with a FINE house, outbuildings, several large fishponds, farm equipment and livestock. It would have bought ten average small farms in the area where I grew up with money left over back around 1950 and I mean working farms with houses on them.
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