Skip to comments.Why Pollard Will Die in Prison
Posted on 01/05/2014 9:39:03 PM PST by tedbel
I have chosen a provocative title for this article because nearing his fourth decade in prison for a crime all others similarly charged see freedom within four years, Jonathan Pollard is no more likely to be freed under Barak Obama than under George W. Bush before him or Bill Clinton before him. From today it seems no exaggeration that, barring a miracle, a young and idealistic American Jew who chose to spy for Israel will be forced to pay the ultimate price for his decision.
Jonathan Pollard had serious medical conditions at the time of his arrest in his twenties. He remains seriously ill in his fifties. And, as I suggested above, barring Divine Intervention or Israel agreeing to some extreme presidential demands bordering on extortion, Jonathan Pollard will die in prison.
Why Jonathan Pollard will die in prison
The punishment imposed, wrote Weinberger, should reflect the perfidy of the individuals actions, the magnitude of the treason committed...
"As I say, the Pollard matter was comparatively minor. It was made far bigger than its actual importance." Pressed on why the case was made far bigger than its actual importance, Weinberger replied, "I don't know why-it just was." (Weinberger interview with Edwin Black, 2002)
I. The Legend begins
In a recent article appearing on-line Prof. Angelo Codevilla, a staff member of the Senate Intelligence Committee at the time Jonathan Pollard was arrested is quoted:
Having been intimately acquainted with the materials that Pollard passed and with the sources and methods by which they were gathered, I would be willing to give expert testimony that Pollard is guilty of neither more nor less than what the indictment alleges.
The allegation of treason which is represented as having influenced DC Circuit Judge Robinson to impose the life sentence was included in Weinbergers unclassified supplemental memo:
(Excerpt) Read more at israpundit.com ...
He was paid and also spied for Pakistan.
He also spied for South Africa.
Long live Edward Snowden.
Arguably, every member of CONgress is a treasonous piece of dog dung.
Snowden is a traitor. No ifs ands or buts.
My understanding is that some of the secrets Pollard revealed ultimately ended up in the hands of the ChiComs.
Once you lose control of secrets, there’s no telling where they wind up.
Dianne Feinstein is a traitor. I don’t hear you quacking that, n00b.
Pollard, assuming his guilt, deserved to go to jail. The only issue then is why we keep him there so much longer than others who did same thing. But since Obama has spied on Bibi so much now that Bibi can’t even discuss affairs of state with his staff in his office in Jerusalem ( except in a special secured secret shielded room), same with chancellor Merkel in Berlin whose phone he bugged, and other allies of USA. Obami spies on our allies while he gives arms and money to almost any sworn enemy of America ( so long as it is a islamoNazi type terror gang). By their fruits you shall know . See also new international poll that America is now the number one threat to world peace as see. In both Europe and Asia. I don’t trust polls but the problem is clearly resident in Washington DC now.
Snowden is offering to provide information on classified US programs to foreign states, in return for compensation.
Sounds like treason to me.
All rats and RINOs are traitors. It goes without saying.
If snowden had revealed what he did, but revealed it between 2000 and 2008, would you have sung his praises? Do you think the NSA only started spying after Bush/Cheney left office?
Jonathan Pollard had serious medical conditions at the time of his arrest in his twenties. He remains seriously ill in his fifties.
Seriously ill until he is released.
This is an obviously biased piece trolling for an uninformed reader.
Pollard was railroaded by Casper Weinberger. Pollard was promised a plea bargain with a short jail time in exchange for a plea. Weinberger doubled crossed him, however, and the government withheld important facts that spoke well for his defense. Pollard will almost certainly be shown to have been a hero in the light of history:
Freedom from prison is long, long overdue.
Pollard was railroaded by Casper Weinberger. He was promised a plea bargain with a short jail time in exchange for a plea. Weinberger doubled crossed him and the government withheld important facts that spoke well for his defense. Pollard will almost certainly be shown to have been a hero in the light of history:
People who spied for enemies of the U.S. were given short terms, but the Jew a life sentence for helping the U.S.s best and technically helpful and strategically helpful ally in the whole world. The U.S. handling of the Pollard case has been a travesty.
All other people who gave classified information to other countries, gave the information to enemies of the U.S. and they were given short terms, but the Jew a life sentence for helping the U.S.s best and technically helpful and strategically helpful ally in the whole world.
I hear you, and I agree with you completely.
Way past time for Pollard to be set free.
He should have died in prison in the 80’s.
“nearing his fourth decade in prison for a crime all others similarly charged see freedom within four years”
A thirty five year sentence for Chelsey Elizabeth Manning, and he’s only a woman.
Pollard is supported by people like James Woolsey, who is an evil, anti-American man. Woolsey protected the most terrible spies against the U.S., like Aldrich Ames and Robert Hanssen
You have attacked the admirable James Woolsey and accused him in a terrible way. The reality is that Woolsey’s career is exemplary and one of a patriot. Does Woolsey’s strong support of Israel and of a strong military irk you, Nickcarraway? Is that what is really bothering you as you pursue the neck of Jonathan Pollard?
James Woolsey’s career is stellar:
The following link to Woolsey’s bio and values is well worth the read in its entirety:
Foundation for Defense of Democracies: Board Chair
Committee on the Present Danger: Co-Chair
Center for Security Policy: Former Honorary Co-Chair....much, much more
I don’t know much about what Pollard did but I know wikipedia is a cesspool of liberalism, so if they are on his side, I am probably not.
One can but hope.
I’ve had several years, just like the rest of us, in looking back at the overall effect of George W. Bush as President. I will say this. His drive and determination to protect this country in the aftermath of 9/11/2001 was extraordinary and I am grateful for that.
That said, I honestly believe Bush did irreparable harm to this country, too. In his zeal to defend us from without, he completely ignored those actions, forces and groups within. He even appeased and collaborated with them at times (see Ted Kennedy NCLB, Medicare Prescriptions, et al).
The most egregious and unforgivable thing he did was to create the DHS and the TSA, two of the most oppressive, freedom-stealing organizations that ever existed in this country save the IRS.
In short, he abandoned us economically, fiscally and spiritually (by his abnormal refusal to counter absurd liberal claims and actions against him.) In doing this, he rolled out the red carpet for Emperor Obama.
What dif does his sign up date make?
Treason is treason, Pollard and other traitors should die in prison, preferably at the end of rope but I’ll take old, sick alone and despised in lieu of.
I pretty much agree with you.
Nixon did much the same harm to the country by installing numerous liberal programs. “Watch what we do; not what we say”. That, not Watergate, was his real crime.
That being said, given the same alternatives, even knowing what I do now, I would make the same choice.
You are seriously misinformed. The information Pollard gave the Israelis about U.S. intelligence “sources and methods” was then transmitted by them to the Soviets in exchange for permission for additional Russian Jews to emigrate to Israel, as well as for more lenient treatment for other Jews not allowed to emigrate.
An unequivocal YES. I'm a Constitutionalist.
I doubt it.
Some no few of the more recent Freepers are unadorned Fascists who love The New American Police State.
As far as I'm concerned, nearly everyone in power in Washington is a traitor.
Are they in prison? Will Bill Clinton ever see the inside of a jail cell? Who is John Huang? ;-)
James Woolsey was big in the anti-Vietnam War effort. That’s all I need to know about him.
fyi: The majority of those who understand that Pollard should have been released long since are political CONSERVATIVES. Palmer, you’ve got the scenario all wrong. You’re claiming the opposite of the reality. Those who organize and march for Pollard are CONSERVATIVES. Wake up and smell the coffee. If you are really interested in the full picture with an open mind, please do much more critical research on this topic.
p.s. I included the Wiki article of Pollard because this particular article seemed a balanced and informative one. I’m not here to defend Wikipedia in any blanket way, but it does not infrequently wind up providing an excellent first place to look on many topics and this was one. Given the extremely Leftist bias of so many news sources and publishers, Wiki paradoxically has wound up being as good as it gets in many, surely not all, cases, despite the Left’s clear aim at dominating it. You can post there, too, if you have have verified information and wish to post.
p.p.s. Having said that Wiki is often a good beginning - not final or complete - source for researching a topic, I am distressed at articles being scrubbed from Wikipedia, such as the article about the recently dead Loretta Fuddy of Hawaii.
Snowden is offering to provide classified information on US programs to Brazil, among others, in exchange for asylum.
The offer is treason.
The 4th Amendment on search and seizure doesn’t apply to protect your dealings with a third party, such as a phone company, internet provider.
4th Amendment protections have long been applied by forbidding use of the information obtained without a warrant in trial. The courts have never asserted that such information could not be gathered, but rather, that it could not be used in trial.
Intelligence information is, and has routinely been gathered without any crime being committed.
That just shows that your definition of 'traitor' is meaningless. The definition is in the constitution.
Wow, I didn't know he did that.
When did they change Article two of the Constitution?
He specifically refused to hold anyone accountable when Ames was caught, because he thought Ames did not do anything wrong. Does that sound like an admirable man?
Please explain how you think that Woolsey had an exemplary career when he was fired even by his fellow Democrats for betraying his country to communists?
James Woolsey claims to support Israel, but it’s not what I call support. He wants Israel to give all it’s land away to enemies and stop defending itself against it’s enemies. If Israel follows the Woolseys of the world it won’t exist. Woolsey is a rabid anti-Semite.
It appears that you are whining because a Jew is in prison. And if he was a muslim, then would you feel the same?
Ah! So Bill Clinton and his minions didn't commit treason by selling secrets to the Chinese in return for campaign cash?
You're full of it. Washington has sold out the country for short-term gain. And it's trivially provable.
Did they make war against the United States?
If so, it wasn’t much of a war, as I seem to have missed it.
There is a difference between bad policy and treason.
All you guys who are quacking about Snowden committing "treason": I just realized who you remind me of.
You remind me of the British loyalists in the American colonies and the extremists back in England in the 1770s who were always quacking about "treason" and "traitors" when it came to the men who acted to end the Despotism.
And so the Great Wheel has turned full circle again...
Woolsey and Clinton, rather famously, didn’t have a relationship. Woolsey never had a 1 on 1 meeting with Clinton throughout his tenure as CIA director.
You know, you are right, it isn’t treason. It is revealing classified information, which has felony penalty, but not treason unless making war, or supporting US enemies.
If he gave the information to ‘al Queda’, then it would count as treason.
Fanmously, national security was not a subject of Bill's interest...
Let's see: Eric Snowden hasn't levied War against the United States, nor has he adhered to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort - well, unless you consider the ordinary American peasant an Enemy of the United States (which I do)...
He just spilled the beans about extremely unconstitutional acts of aggression by the True Enemy (see above picture, wherein George Washington hath figured out who the real enemy is).
We're agreed. I shall step away from the cudgels, if you do the same.
Who is John Huang? ;-)
From there, several high-ranking officials sought to have Pollard dismissed but their efforts were stymied by bureaucracy. Meanwhile, Pollard was shuffled from one department to another where he exhibited increasingly bizarre behavior - such as attempting to vomit in order to invalidate a polygraph test.
Read the entire article, I'm not inclined to have much sympathy for his predicament.
“Arguably, every member of CONgress is a treasonous piece of dog dung.”
As is every American President since Reagan.