Skip to comments.MSNBC Associates Duck Dynasty Gun Line with Mass Shootings
Posted on 01/05/2014 10:37:37 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
When MSNBC's Thomas Roberts announced the new line of Duck Commander guns on January 3rd, he was joined by Len Everett of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence. Everett claimed Phil Robertson, of Duck Dynasty fame, made his controversial comments to sell guns to conservative, middle-aged, white males and criticized the Robertson family for selling the kinds of guns used in mass shootings.
Roberts used leading questions to guide Everett in making these points throughout the segment.
For example, Roberts introduced Everett by pointing out that the new line of guns includes a "semi-automatic pistol" and "two semi-automatic rifles." Moreover, "the pistol and one of the rifles have military style designs with large capacity magazines holding at least 25 rounds."
This allowed Everett to respond in disbelief that Mossberg firearms would partner with a family like the Robertsons to make guns, especially guns with "high capacity" magazines.
Everett pointed out the common elements in "mass shootings" are "the semi-automatics"(continued)
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They are all .22LR...
Oh wow, what a surprise.
The only “common element” in nearly every rampage shooting of the past few decades has been a dangerously deranged individual that should have been institutionalized long before he ever hurt anyone.
What else would you expect from the Prostitute Propagandists that have sold their soul to the devil in exchange for access to the WH admiistration?
Almost ALL of these mass killers have been self-confessed LIBTURDS!!!
“The only common element in nearly every rampage shooting of the past few decades has been a dangerously deranged individual that should have been institutionalized long before he ever hurt anyone.”
Actually, there are two common elements in nearly every rampage shooting of the past few decades. The one you mention above of deranged individuals. The other one is they were all leftists. Although, when you think about it, leftist and deranged are actually synonymous.
Around four years ago....back in my hometown in Bama....a gal I went to school with...was asked by the sister-in-law to come back and stand with her at the divorce hearing on a Monday.
Things had gone badly for at least a decade between the husband and wife. He was continually acting nutty...perhaps from some mental issue or from drugs (take your pick). He and his sister had been on good terms.
As the sister arrived to help the wife over this weekend leading up to the divorce hearing...this guy went ‘turbo’. He came to the door of the house on Saturday evening...killing the wife, his daughter, his sister, and the sister’s son. Then he killed himself.
As the FBI defines mass killings...four or more...this one made the yearly statistics of that year.
The guy was borderline psychotic. Maybe drugs pushed him a bit. But he was never enough that any judge would sign papers to put him into a facility for one single day.
When you sit down and analyze shootings in general (removing the FBI threshold of four or more)....you come to three divisions (robbery gone wrong, nut-case, or doped-up frenzy). The solution in each division? Because no one will put the nuts away, and no one can fix the doper situation....basically, we need most everyone to be armed and prepared to dispatch these folks to a better place.
Trying to explain how guns taken from citizens will foster a new bold and safe world? I keep waiting for the rational answer to appear. It’s mostly slogans from some journalist, or some irrational person talking of fixing a problem but never identifying what caused the problem.
Usually it isn’t rednecks that go on rampages. Mossberg is not stupid.
Answer is cultural value. 1910 America, about 100 million people. Only 17 percent grad HS, less then 1 percent college, 20 percent is middle class or better, rest are poor factory workers or small farmers. Little or no gun laws. Guess what was the total number of people murdered that year? 230
1910 America, much poorer and less educated then 2013 America but had a murder rate equal to 700 in today’s population numbers. Today we kill about 12000 to 15000 Americans a year from homicide of all sorts.
My challenge to most of my young liberal college grads at work when we talk about society and social issues, I throw this statistic at them. Many are dumbfounded. How can a poorer less educated, homophobe, anti women and anti color people society have such a low murder rate. More guns and less gun control to boot. The low murder rate of an old fashion society does not immediately make them conservative but it makes them start thinking why traditional society was more peaceful then the modern one they live in.
Mosberg has made two firearms that look like an AR but both fire the .22 rimfire round. One of the weakest rounds on the market today or ever for that matter. Yes they are still deadly in the right situations but they are far, far, from the .223/5.62 NATO that the AR or M-16 fires.
Please, please, please tell who ever wrote this crap what a gun ignorant moron they really are. What they insinuated was that this is in some way an assault rifle and that is an outright bold faced lie.
This should make it very clear for all to see that honesty, truth and fact mean nothing to the anti constitution gun grabbing unamerican morons
What does Roberts know about guns? He should stick to gay marriage, that he knows about.
MSNBC is not a news channel, but a propaganda outlet that would not still be afloat if Soros’ Media Matters did not support them with so much ‘research’ and scripted material.
What is the rational for reposting so much of their crap here? What’s next - daily summaries from moveon? I don’t get it.
Don’t forget that many mass shootings were committed by leftists.
Your ‘1910’ has three attachments.
First, mental tests could be readily applied by any county judge, and you could put a relative or neighbor into a state facility with a fair amount of ease. They never came out, but you felt safe from that point on.
Second, while we likely consumed twice as much booze in 1910 as today, we didn’t have all the drug usage and it’s issues.
Third, guys worked hard physical labor for ten to twelve hours a day, and didn’t really have any energy left to get into vast amounts of trouble like we do today.
I’ll also point out that the lifestyle of 1910 was you kinda went to bed shortly after sundown. Few folks stood around at 11PM on the street corner talking, or were driving through Memphis at 1AM. In the whole city of Atlanta in 1910....at 1AM, you might be lucky to find a dozen folks out and doing anything.
MSNBC is self destructing as we watch with a great deal of incredulity and joy.
TANK you sick lefy Mo’ Fo’s. Buahahahahahaha!
The only common element in nearly every rampage shooting of the past few decades has been a dangerously deranged individual that should have been institutionalized long before he ever hurt anyone.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The vast majority of whom had distinctly leftist political leanings and leftist , nihilistic cultural values.
The other common element: Self-identify as liberal/progressive/socialist.
Sorry to throw more realism but its race too
Blacks and Latinos murder at much higher rates
And their proportions have grown
White violent crime rate is about constant
There is a third common element. These mass shootings take place in “gun free zones”
No additional comment needed.
msnbc is owned and operated by satan.
Is there a reason anything these idiot say on that channel nobody watches gets posted here 24/7?
I could see if they mattered but, the channel is barely on TV at this point.
If folks quit commenting on the stupidity aired at MSNBC, their natural death would hasten.
Pay attention to moves in the military. The FedGov is trying to figure out who will follow orders.
How many mass murders have been committed with a shotgun, anyway?
Most of the Aurora, CO shooting was done with a 12 gauge pump gun. The only other one that comes to mind is the Navy Yard shooting in DC. Unless you want to count the most recent incident where only one girl was murdered before the shooter discovered there was an armed security guard on site and committed suicide.
Government needs to Ban all X-Box games!!! (sarc..)
Police: Boy, 13, kills cousin, 16, over Xbox
By Peter Nickeas and Rosemary Regina Sobol Tribune reporters
6:45 a.m. CST, January 6, 2014
The 13-year-old shot his cousin, Raymond Galloway, while he was sleeping around 5:50 a.m. Sunday in the 500 block of East 38th Place, police said.
The two boys had been arguing earlier about an Xbox, according to a police report.
The boy was charged as a juvenile with first-degree murder just after midnight Monday and was scheduled to appear in juvenile court later in the day.
Police said the 13-year-old admitted to the crime with his mother present. Its not clear where the boy got the gun and no adults have been charged.
The other thing that pops up in almost every case is that the shooter was on anti-depressants.
Makes one wonder about the correlation vs causation factor.
Are they on anti-depressants because they’re deranged,
and being deranged is the primary factor in the mass shooting? (Factor A causes effect B and C)
Or is it a side effect of the anti-depressant drug that drives them over the edge to attempt a mass shooting? (Factor A causes C)
yeah, but it's a lot easier to throw them in the booby hatch because they're dangerously unstable than because they're liberal. jus' sayin'
But the left protests “throwing them in the booby hatch” because it “violates their civil rights”.
do you think it will be any easier to throw them in the booby hatch because they're liberal?
I wouldn’t want to propose that at all.
I would vehemently oppose that, actually.
We can’t be incarcerating people because of their political beliefs - we know where that leads.
The left, however, would have no qualms about incarcerating as “insane” any who opposed them ideologically.
Little girlie boys on ritlin are hardly watching Duck Dynasty.
which is precisely why I suggested that we revisit our national policy on institutionalizing the dangerously unstable — with which you seemed to want to argue.
Don’t pick a fight where there is none, FRiend.
I fully support putting the dangerously unstable under supervision and movement restriction, and even those deemed incapable of taking care of themselves due to mental problems.
I fully deride the policy of the 80’s where the ACLU got all the insane turned out on the street to become homeless.
At the very least, I would think that someone ought to investigate the potential links, but I don’t suppose the pharmaceutical companies are all that eager to fund that kind of study...
What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
Similar point was discussed in “The Not So Wild West” by Terry Anderson. The actual murders were no worse west of the Mississippi in the frontier towns and cities than the were in the Eastern United States, some cities had for a time slightly worse rates, such as NYC with it’s rising gang activity. If you haven’t read it, it’s worth a read, especially considering much of the people in the Old West had visible firearms on their person.
Good one vet, in fact, didn’t we fight the British despite them having the actual Naval Power both in the American Revolution and the War of 1812? Didn’t the British possess more of that heavy artillery? I thought so, but I think Afghanistan is a better example. The Taliban has IEDs and old Russian AK Rifles, but they still have a will to fight despite being the targets of U.S. Superior Firepower for 12 years. If the Taliban can hurt by attrition, so, possibly, could some American determined fighters.
Many of their weapons were hand-built by little boys in caves and in shanties in Pakistan. I watched a video several years ago on the subject.
My friend, The AK Rifle series is a black market gun of choice the world over, not just Afghanistan, but worldwide, we even had the shooters in North Hollywood assemble fully functional AKs in their own home by simply acquiring black market parts and ammo. AKs are cheap, and well designed, and somewhat easy to assemble, and people can get the separate parts and put them together.