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MSNBC Associates Duck Dynasty Gun Line with Mass Shootings
Breitbart's Big Journalism ^ | January 4, 2014 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 01/05/2014 10:37:37 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

When MSNBC's Thomas Roberts announced the new line of Duck Commander guns on January 3rd, he was joined by Len Everett of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence. Everett claimed Phil Robertson, of Duck Dynasty fame, made his controversial comments to sell guns to conservative, middle-aged, white males and criticized the Robertson family for selling the kinds of guns used in mass shootings.

Roberts used leading questions to guide Everett in making these points throughout the segment.

For example, Roberts introduced Everett by pointing out that the new line of guns includes a "semi-automatic pistol" and "two semi-automatic rifles." Moreover, "the pistol and one of the rifles have military style designs with large capacity magazines holding at least 25 rounds."

This allowed Everett to respond in disbelief that Mossberg firearms would partner with a family like the Robertsons to make guns, especially guns with "high capacity" magazines.

Everett pointed out the common elements in "mass shootings" are "the semi-automatics"(continued)

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: assaultweapons; associates; banglist; blackkk; duckdynasty; gun; homosexualagenda; line; mass; melissaharrisperry; mossberg; msnbc; shootings
Typical.
1 posted on 01/05/2014 10:37:38 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They are all .22LR...


2 posted on 01/05/2014 10:39:54 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh wow, what a surprise.


3 posted on 01/05/2014 10:47:14 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only “common element” in nearly every rampage shooting of the past few decades has been a dangerously deranged individual that should have been institutionalized long before he ever hurt anyone.


4 posted on 01/05/2014 11:02:14 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Talisker

What else would you expect from the Prostitute Propagandists that have sold their soul to the devil in exchange for access to the WH admiistration?


5 posted on 01/05/2014 11:07:38 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: JohnBrowdie

Almost ALL of these mass killers have been self-confessed LIBTURDS!!!


6 posted on 01/05/2014 11:10:30 PM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: JohnBrowdie

“The only “common element” in nearly every rampage shooting of the past few decades has been a dangerously deranged individual that should have been institutionalized long before he ever hurt anyone.”

Actually, there are two common elements in nearly every rampage shooting of the past few decades. The one you mention above of deranged individuals. The other one is they were all leftists. Although, when you think about it, leftist and deranged are actually synonymous.


7 posted on 01/05/2014 11:13:21 PM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Around four years ago....back in my hometown in Bama....a gal I went to school with...was asked by the sister-in-law to come back and stand with her at the divorce hearing on a Monday.

Things had gone badly for at least a decade between the husband and wife. He was continually acting nutty...perhaps from some mental issue or from drugs (take your pick). He and his sister had been on good terms.

As the sister arrived to help the wife over this weekend leading up to the divorce hearing...this guy went ‘turbo’. He came to the door of the house on Saturday evening...killing the wife, his daughter, his sister, and the sister’s son. Then he killed himself.

As the FBI defines mass killings...four or more...this one made the yearly statistics of that year.

The guy was borderline psychotic. Maybe drugs pushed him a bit. But he was never enough that any judge would sign papers to put him into a facility for one single day.

When you sit down and analyze shootings in general (removing the FBI threshold of four or more)....you come to three divisions (robbery gone wrong, nut-case, or doped-up frenzy). The solution in each division? Because no one will put the nuts away, and no one can fix the doper situation....basically, we need most everyone to be armed and prepared to dispatch these folks to a better place.

Trying to explain how guns taken from citizens will foster a new bold and safe world? I keep waiting for the rational answer to appear. It’s mostly slogans from some journalist, or some irrational person talking of fixing a problem but never identifying what caused the problem.


8 posted on 01/05/2014 11:15:30 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Usually it isn’t rednecks that go on rampages. Mossberg is not stupid.


9 posted on 01/05/2014 11:39:09 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: pepsionice

Answer is cultural value. 1910 America, about 100 million people. Only 17 percent grad HS, less then 1 percent college, 20 percent is middle class or better, rest are poor factory workers or small farmers. Little or no gun laws. Guess what was the total number of people murdered that year? 230
1910 America, much poorer and less educated then 2013 America but had a murder rate equal to 700 in today’s population numbers. Today we kill about 12000 to 15000 Americans a year from homicide of all sorts.
My challenge to most of my young liberal college grads at work when we talk about society and social issues, I throw this statistic at them. Many are dumbfounded. How can a poorer less educated, homophobe, anti women and anti color people society have such a low murder rate. More guns and less gun control to boot. The low murder rate of an old fashion society does not immediately make them conservative but it makes them start thinking why traditional society was more peaceful then the modern one they live in.


10 posted on 01/05/2014 11:40:14 PM PST by Fee
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Remember when we were all telling the left that they were judging AR's by looks and not by function? We told them that they really needed to know what they were talking about

Mosberg has made two firearms that look like an AR but both fire the .22 rimfire round. One of the weakest rounds on the market today or ever for that matter. Yes they are still deadly in the right situations but they are far, far, from the .223/5.62 NATO that the AR or M-16 fires.

Please, please, please tell who ever wrote this crap what a gun ignorant moron they really are. What they insinuated was that this is in some way an assault rifle and that is an outright bold faced lie.

This should make it very clear for all to see that honesty, truth and fact mean nothing to the anti constitution gun grabbing unamerican morons

11 posted on 01/05/2014 11:53:00 PM PST by oldenuff2no ( .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What does Roberts know about guns? He should stick to gay marriage, that he knows about.

12 posted on 01/05/2014 11:54:15 PM PST by kcvl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

MSNBC is not a news channel, but a propaganda outlet that would not still be afloat if Soros’ Media Matters did not support them with so much ‘research’ and scripted material.

What is the rational for reposting so much of their crap here? What’s next - daily summaries from moveon? I don’t get it.


13 posted on 01/06/2014 12:05:11 AM PST by expat1000
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To: JohnBrowdie

Don’t forget that many mass shootings were committed by leftists.


15 posted on 01/06/2014 12:10:54 AM PST by wastedyears (The Ender's Game movie was a stupendous, colossal, galactic failure to me.)
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To: wastedyears

>> many

Vast majority.


16 posted on 01/06/2014 12:12:29 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Fee

Your ‘1910’ has three attachments.

First, mental tests could be readily applied by any county judge, and you could put a relative or neighbor into a state facility with a fair amount of ease. They never came out, but you felt safe from that point on.

Second, while we likely consumed twice as much booze in 1910 as today, we didn’t have all the drug usage and it’s issues.

Third, guys worked hard physical labor for ten to twelve hours a day, and didn’t really have any energy left to get into vast amounts of trouble like we do today.

I’ll also point out that the lifestyle of 1910 was you kinda went to bed shortly after sundown. Few folks stood around at 11PM on the street corner talking, or were driving through Memphis at 1AM. In the whole city of Atlanta in 1910....at 1AM, you might be lucky to find a dozen folks out and doing anything.


17 posted on 01/06/2014 12:14:35 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: kcvl

Disgusting.


18 posted on 01/06/2014 12:35:22 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

MSNBC is self destructing as we watch with a great deal of incredulity and joy.

TANK you sick lefy Mo’ Fo’s. Buahahahahahaha!


19 posted on 01/06/2014 1:09:30 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: JohnBrowdie

The only “common element” in nearly every rampage shooting of the past few decades has been a dangerously deranged individual that should have been institutionalized long before he ever hurt anyone.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The vast majority of whom had distinctly leftist political leanings and leftist , nihilistic cultural values.


20 posted on 01/06/2014 1:11:09 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: JohnBrowdie

The other common element: Self-identify as liberal/progressive/socialist.


21 posted on 01/06/2014 1:37:01 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: Fee

Sorry to throw more realism but its race too

Blacks and Latinos murder at much higher rates

And their proportions have grown

White violent crime rate is about constant


22 posted on 01/06/2014 2:16:22 AM PST by wardaddy (wifey instructed me today to grow chapter president beard back again....i wonder why?)
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To: flaglady47

There is a third common element. These mass shootings take place in “gun free zones”

No additional comment needed.


23 posted on 01/06/2014 4:01:45 AM PST by Big Mack (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to eat VEGETABLES!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

msnbc is owned and operated by satan.


24 posted on 01/06/2014 4:31:57 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is there a reason anything these idiot say on that channel nobody watches gets posted here 24/7?
I could see if they mattered but, the channel is barely on TV at this point.


25 posted on 01/06/2014 4:44:06 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If folks quit commenting on the stupidity aired at MSNBC, their natural death would hasten.


26 posted on 01/06/2014 5:11:09 AM PST by G Larry
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They are pushing for an active, violent, suppression.

Pay attention to moves in the military. The FedGov is trying to figure out who will follow orders.

27 posted on 01/06/2014 5:18:57 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How many mass murders have been committed with a shotgun, anyway?


28 posted on 01/06/2014 5:48:02 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: sportutegrl

Most of the Aurora, CO shooting was done with a 12 gauge pump gun. The only other one that comes to mind is the Navy Yard shooting in DC. Unless you want to count the most recent incident where only one girl was murdered before the shooter discovered there was an armed security guard on site and committed suicide.


29 posted on 01/06/2014 5:54:15 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Explain again, why don't you need to fill out form 4473 to buy a pressure cooker?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Soon, the DD people will be selling the cop-killer bullets too Im sure...
30 posted on 01/06/2014 5:55:19 AM PST by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

CHICAGO

Government needs to Ban all X-Box games!!! (sarc..)

Police: Boy, 13, kills cousin, 16, over Xbox
By Peter Nickeas and Rosemary Regina Sobol Tribune reporters

6:45 a.m. CST, January 6, 2014

The 13-year-old shot his cousin, Raymond Galloway, while he was sleeping around 5:50 a.m. Sunday in the 500 block of East 38th Place, police said.

The two boys had been arguing earlier about an Xbox, according to a police report.

The boy was charged as a juvenile with first-degree murder just after midnight Monday and was scheduled to appear in juvenile court later in the day.

Police said the 13-year-old admitted to the crime with his mother present. It’s not clear where the boy got the gun and no adults have been charged.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-police-boy-16-slain-on-south-side-20140105,0,5198889.story


31 posted on 01/06/2014 5:59:22 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: JohnBrowdie
The only “common element” in nearly every rampage shooting of the past few decades has been a dangerously deranged individual that should have been institutionalized long before he ever hurt anyone.

The other thing that pops up in almost every case is that the shooter was on anti-depressants.

32 posted on 01/06/2014 6:01:09 AM PST by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: kevkrom

Makes one wonder about the correlation vs causation factor.

Are they on anti-depressants because they’re deranged,
and being deranged is the primary factor in the mass shooting? (Factor A causes effect B and C)

Or is it a side effect of the anti-depressant drug that drives them over the edge to attempt a mass shooting? (Factor A causes C)


33 posted on 01/06/2014 6:03:59 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SubMareener
--The other common element: Self-identify as liberal/progressive/socialist.--

yeah, but it's a lot easier to throw them in the booby hatch because they're dangerously unstable than because they're liberal. jus' sayin'

34 posted on 01/06/2014 6:16:28 AM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JohnBrowdie

But the left protests “throwing them in the booby hatch” because it “violates their civil rights”.


35 posted on 01/06/2014 6:17:40 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
But the left protests “throwing them in the booby hatch” because it “violates their civil rights”.

do you think it will be any easier to throw them in the booby hatch because they're liberal?

36 posted on 01/06/2014 6:23:54 AM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JohnBrowdie

I wouldn’t want to propose that at all.
I would vehemently oppose that, actually.

We can’t be incarcerating people because of their political beliefs - we know where that leads.

The left, however, would have no qualms about incarcerating as “insane” any who opposed them ideologically.


37 posted on 01/06/2014 6:25:21 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Little girlie boys on ritlin are hardly watching Duck Dynasty.


38 posted on 01/06/2014 6:26:38 AM PST by jersey117
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To: MrB

which is precisely why I suggested that we revisit our national policy on institutionalizing the dangerously unstable — with which you seemed to want to argue.


39 posted on 01/06/2014 6:35:15 AM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Don’t pick a fight where there is none, FRiend.

I fully support putting the dangerously unstable under supervision and movement restriction, and even those deemed incapable of taking care of themselves due to mental problems.

I fully deride the policy of the 80’s where the ACLU got all the insane turned out on the street to become homeless.


40 posted on 01/06/2014 6:38:17 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

At the very least, I would think that someone ought to investigate the potential links, but I don’t suppose the pharmaceutical companies are all that eager to fund that kind of study...


41 posted on 01/06/2014 7:22:58 AM PST by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: Fee
It truly was a different time. My grandfather grew up in rural Kansas in the 30's. I have a picture of him in one of his elementary school classrooms. Nice photo of all the kids, all of them dressed nicely (even though they had no money), and there is a gun rack in the corner of the classroom. All of the boys carried their .22 to school so they could hunt while walking to/from school. Nobody ever thought that having a gun in the classroom was dangerous. My grandfather told me if you had an issue with someone, you settled it on the way home with fists - nobody ever thought of picking up a gun. How times have changed.....
42 posted on 01/06/2014 7:23:02 AM PST by rocket002 (99% of Democrats give the rest a bad name.)
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To: redgolum

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


43 posted on 01/06/2014 7:40:22 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: Fee

Similar point was discussed in “The Not So Wild West” by Terry Anderson. The actual murders were no worse west of the Mississippi in the frontier towns and cities than the were in the Eastern United States, some cities had for a time slightly worse rates, such as NYC with it’s rising gang activity. If you haven’t read it, it’s worth a read, especially considering much of the people in the Old West had visible firearms on their person.


44 posted on 01/06/2014 2:23:03 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good one vet, in fact, didn’t we fight the British despite them having the actual Naval Power both in the American Revolution and the War of 1812? Didn’t the British possess more of that heavy artillery? I thought so, but I think Afghanistan is a better example. The Taliban has IEDs and old Russian AK Rifles, but they still have a will to fight despite being the targets of U.S. Superior Firepower for 12 years. If the Taliban can hurt by attrition, so, possibly, could some American determined fighters.


45 posted on 01/06/2014 2:26:31 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Morpheus2009

Many of their weapons were hand-built by little boys in caves and in shanties in Pakistan. I watched a video several years ago on the subject.


46 posted on 01/06/2014 2:28:31 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My friend, The AK Rifle series is a black market gun of choice the world over, not just Afghanistan, but worldwide, we even had the shooters in North Hollywood assemble fully functional AKs in their own home by simply acquiring black market parts and ammo. AKs are cheap, and well designed, and somewhat easy to assemble, and people can get the separate parts and put them together.


47 posted on 01/07/2014 4:43:02 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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