Skip to comments.Seven Minimum Wage Facts That Have Democrats Worried
Posted on 01/06/2014 5:49:04 AM PST by Sir Napsalot
With the midterm elections just over 300 days away, nervous Democrats reeling from the Obamacare debacle are hoping a big push to raise the minimum wage will be the silver bullet that will spare them from the historic losses they suffered in 2010.
Democrats and unions are busy working to get minimum wage initiatives on state ballots in the hopes of creating an electoral minimum wage magnet to attract low-income, minority, and union voters to the polls.
Seven minimum wage facts, however, may diminish Democrats' high hopes.
1. Just 2.8% of American workers earn at or below the minimum wage.
2. Half of all minimum wage workers are 16 to 24 years old.
3. Labor workers already make well above the minimum wage.
4. Even those who support minimum wage hikes concede it could kill jobs.
5. Minorities and the poor are hit hardest by the minimum wage.
6. Even progressives concede the minimum wage is no panacea for America's economic woes.
7. 21 states already have minimum wages that are higher than the federal $7.25/hr rate.
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patriot2013jrd 11 hours ago
"It's all about the unions and basing their pay upon a multiple of the minimum wage.
And it sure plays well to the uninformed and naive. That is the base of the democrat party, so it is a regular play in their divide and conquer politics. Rich against the poor." 164 △ 1 ▽
Very naïve for author of the article to think the listed seven facts had Dems worried. "This" has been the Dems playbook and it has been winning for them.
I'll just add this to that number 7 - These same 21 states are OF COURSE going to up their ante once the Federal minimum wage hike, to show they are much more 'enlightened' than the rest of the nation.
Number 1 omits the number of workers whose pay is tied to minimum wage somehow, the unions, for one group.
We raised minimum wage in 2007, right after the new dim-0 congress took over.Conservatives warned dim-0s that to do so was to raise unemployment, but they did it anyway. At the time, unemployment was, and had been at mid 4%. Soon after it started going up, and put us where we are today.
IF we raise it again, people who have jobs now will lose them.
It plays to the sheeperals prime motivation - thinking of themselves as “good people” for supporting “giving the poor more”, without personal sacrifice, of course.
If we are doomed to get a raise in the minimum wage no matter what then make it a BIG rise and make it very soon, soon enough to throw a bunch of Democrat voters out of work before the election.
The progressives at MSNBC have beating this drum and they DON”T concede this.
They been claiming the exact opposite, that raising the minimum wage is the same as giving out raises and it stimulates the economy because those people spend that extra $$$. And *we* all know that spending $$$ is what makes the economy work. The consumers are the most important.
Same claims/theory with extending unemployment comp.
Notice Dems hate states making their own economic policies.
Meaning the “stupid voters”.
California min wage goes to $9 in July, $10 next year or the year after. We’re already bleeding people and jobs, this will just make it worse.
I say the drive for increased minimum wage is due to the recognition that inflation is far more onerous than government figures show. With wages falling already in real terms because of market forces, a boost now should boost the unemployment rate pretty quickly. How will the government alter how they count Unemployeds to keep the new numbers down?
Worse, it’s causing many Californians to flee, turning former red states into blue ones. Colorado, for example. The fleeing Californians can’t connect the dots between why they felt the need to leave California and how they voted there; they vote the same way here.
>>> How will the government alter how they count Unemployeds to keep the new numbers down?
Rhetorical question, right?
Two options that I see as necessary.
One leave it up to the states. Federal law is not necessary.
Two raise minimum wage to equal what people get from Social Security and Military raises each year.
Yes. I believe a lot of union contracts are tied to FEDERAL minimum wage. All 57 states can raise their minimum wages to twice that of the federal standard, and the democrats won’t be happy... Because it won’t help out their union thugs.
That was my response.
People think presenting these facts will deter voters from continuing to vote Dems are too naïve.
Republican run House should hold the line, if they pass this and the Amnesty, there is really no difference between them and the Dem party.
(But we conservatives already knew that.)
4,5, and 6 have never burned the Democrats before.
I think it also will increase the off the books labor force. I suspect the black market economy (read that “non-taxable) is steadily increasing as a percentage of the US economy.
It will be a tough sell to harp about income inequality when the rich got richer and the poor got poorer under this administration.
That won’t stop them from doing it.
Again, that points out my assertion that “capitalism”, ie, the free market where people buy and sell based on their own interests,
is like gravity. It’s the “default condition”.
When the left tries to “get around it”, it’s like trying to “get around” gravity.
But, as the saying goes, “what goes up must come down”.
Surely you jest!
Sorry I don’t get it, how is it a tough sell?
From what I see all the Soros goons have their target sight and talking points readied re: “inequality”.
Like I said, their playbook had been winning for them.
All good points, but I don’t think any of them will affect the Dem arguments, or worry them.
Yes I thought the 7 worries were naive too. The unions love increases in the minimum wage because it pushes all wage brackets up.
Minimum wage hikes are all about unions that already make many times the minimum wage rate.
Their contract may call for a wage of 2x the fed minimum wage +$5.25 per hour. ( just an example)
Raise the minimum wage $1.50 and they just got a $3 hr raise.
That is the reason they don’t give a crap about the fact that kids and the poor making minimum wage will lose their jobs.
This isn’t about the poor or people that really do make minimum wage!
Totally agree, they are not worried at all.
Raise the minimum wage enough to push everyone into the 39.6% tax bracket. LOL
I agree with you on the States set their own minimum wage requirement.
But I am too ignorant (with facts) of your second proposal.
“I think it also will increase the off the books labor force. I suspect the black market economy (read that non-taxable) is steadily increasing as a percentage of the US economy.”
Absolutely! You will see proportionately that raising taxes and government imposed wage requirements drives the economy underground, which consequently lowers overall tax revenue.
I hate minimum wage and the conmen who promote it. When I had my coffee shop, I had lots of teenagers that would have worked for what I could afford, but I had to turn them away because of this communist policy.
“Worse, its causing many Californians to flee, turning former red states into blue ones. Colorado, for example. The fleeing Californians cant connect the dots between why they felt the need to leave California and how they voted there; they vote the same way here.”
If what you say is true, how is it that all three legislators you just got rid of, all came from states other than California? Oh sorry, my mistake Morse was born in Colorado Springs, Hudak was from New York and at the last one from Nebraska as I recall. BTW some good conservative friends of mine just moved to Colorado from Sonoma, CA. And your current governor came to you from Pennsylvania! The truth is, you really have no idea the genesis of your state’s liberal bent, but it’s a lot of “fun” to blame someone else, now isn’t it. You could start by shutting down your “university” in The People’s Republic of Boulder.
I am talking about voters, not elected representatives. Those people you mention would probably have never been elected without thousands of politically active leftists emigrating from CA. I personally attended a city council meeting in Boulder many years ago, when they were considering a bunch of gun control ordinances. Many of those in favor prefaced their comments with “In California, what we did was ...” Which prompted the response from others in the audience “”Why did you leave?” or “Then move back! You’d love it there!”
If it actually works we should raise it AT LEAST to $1000. per hour. Why should fast food workers have to work a whole hour to earn the price of a fast food lunch? Raise the minimum high enough so that they only need to work one week a year and they can spend the other fifty one weeks texting each other about important matters. Yeah, that’s the ticket, any good liberal ought to go along with that.
“ Which prompted the response from others in the audience Why did you leave? or Then move back! Youd love it there!”
Yeah, well we native Californians (you know the people who elected Ronald Reagan as our governor ) would like to offer the same deal to the RATs we got earlier on from the $hit holes of the Northeast. It’s all about perspective now isn’t it. And all the fingerprinting in the world isn’t going to do diddly $hit about our “collective” problem. Hell, a Freeper from Texas remarked a couple of days back that the “liberals” there are turning it into “California with guns.” For you to suggest that all would be well and good in Colorado if just all the “Californians” would leave isn’t any different that we conservatives in California saying that we’d be fine if we could just get the likes of Boxer and Pelosi to move back to where they came from and take their liberal trash friends with them.
The truth of the matter is that California can “thank” WWII for the beginning of our problems. The ship and aircraft industries that flourished here during the war brought the “trash” from the rest of the country because of the jobs. After the war, those jobs went away, but the “trash” didn’t, they just went on welfare and continued to pop out babies. Then the Blacks complained about the Bracero program which brought legal migrant workers here to work in agriculture. They said that the Mexicans were “taking their jobs.” Funny thing though, when we told the Mexicans they couldn’t come here anymore, the Blacks didn’t take on the farm work (probably because it was too much like real work). They were too busy suing the county welfare agencies for “unannounced raids” to try and find out just how many children the “sperm recepticles” had (they were getting caught moving the wads of kids around to pad their benefits). At at the end of the day, we both live in places that are nice, so we are targets for the liberal trash, and it doesn’t help when the liberals get enough power to jack up the welfare benefits to make it “even nicer.” I applaud Colorado for kicking out the three legislators, I wished we could do some of the same, and we may well get there yet. Our biggest failing was to elect that POS Arnold Schwartzenkennedy. He busied himself procreating with his maid, but little else. Good luck offing Chickenpooper and maybe Udall!
Thanks Sir Napsalot.
The federal minimum wage needs to be outlawed; if states want a minimum wage, it should be up there.
So we are apparently in similar boats together. In an attempt to end on an optimistic note, several CO counties voted to pursue secession, which will probably take a while to make happen, but it does amount to another way out, even if Chickenpooper can’t be voted out of office. I myself voted for that one, although unfortunately the county I’m in didn’t elect to do that. Even though it started it, ironically.
“....several CO counties voted to pursue secession...”
Actually it’s virtually the same situation here in CA. The far northern counties have long sought to form a new state. One time they even started the process by identifying the proposed new state as The State of Jefferson. I also recently found out that CA law regarding CCW is different in the counties with less than 200,000 population, and that as a result of a lawsuit, that Sacramento County ( which is decidedly bigger than 200,000 in population) has agreed to stop routinely denying CCW permits. The lawsuit was against both Sacramento and Yolo Counties, but it continues against the Sheriff of Yolo County (population 208,000) because he still wants to deny CCW permits based on state law. So like you in Colorado, it’s the liberal $hit hole big population counties versus the so-called “cow counties,” of which we have many.
I’d like nothing better than to cut California at a the Tehachapi Mtns, and let LA and all points south become Mexico if they want to. That part of the state has the population to run things to their liking and the rest of us be damned.
CalGuns and the SAF are very active here and have many lawsuits against the state for it’s anti-2A laws. And like you, we are starting to win. Now if we could only get the SCOTUS to actually do more than pick around the edges of the 2A and make some really definitive rulings, we could end all of this crap in the various states. But they are as big, if not a bigger POS than the Congress and the Worthless Half-Breed.