Skip to comments.Ready ... aim ... point ... talk - Gun at meeting reportedly rattles foreign delegates
Posted on 01/06/2014 6:08:36 AM PST by FreedomPoster
Jerome M. Hauer, Gov. Andrew Cuomo's director of homeland security, took out his handgun and used the laser sighting device attached to the barrel as a pointer in a presentation to a foreign delegation, according to public officials. It happened Oct. 24 in Albany at the highly secure state emergency operations center below State Police headquarters.
These officials, one of whom claimed to be an eyewitness, said that three Swedish emergency managers in the delegation were rattled when the gun's laser tracked across one of their heads before Hauer found the map of New York, at which he wanted to point.
Hauer, commissioner of the Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Services, was disabled by a stroke a few years ago and can be unsteady. He isn't a law enforcement official. He carries the loaded 9-millimeter Glock in a holster into state buildings, an apparent violation of state law barring state employees from bringing weapons to the workplace, several witnesses say.
The incident with the Swedish delegation occurred during a two-hour briefing at the operations center concerning the state's response to Superstorm Sandy, according to one of the officials.
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Some animals are more equal than others.
Isn’t this lovely?
I have no problem with the man carrying a gun. I have a big problem with him breaking the Second of the Four Rules of Safe Gun Handling.
1. The gun is always loaded
2. Do not point the gun at anything you do no want to destroy
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot
4. Know your target and what is beyond it.
Laser pointers went out of favor over ten years ago. Anyone still using one today needs to take a refresher course in communication & presentation skills. Nothing is more distracting during a training session than a laser dot swimming around in the middle of a power point slide.
More proof that liberals should never be armed unless accompanied by an adult.
Typical liberal irresponsibility involving firearms, stroke patient notwithstanding. I’m really starting to get onboard with the “liberalism is a mental illness” notion, and that liberals in general ought to be banned from owning firearms or attempting to regulate non-liberal who owns one.
“Nothing is more distracting during a training session than a laser dot swimming around in the middle of a power point slide.”
What is the “in favor” method of pointing at a ppt slide?
I suspect the presenter was trying to be cute. Kind of like, “Let’s have a little fun with these fish-smoking Swedes, and show them how we roll in America”.
But a gun is not cute. An unholstered weapon is a deadly serious thing, and should not be used as a joke.
Actually, there is one thing more distracting... Having a loaded gun pointed at you head!
Lasers on firearms are pretty useless in most situations anyway. Unless, of course, you are a mall ninja or a certified “operator”.
Completely irresponsible and dangerous, especially for someone who had a stroke and can be “unsteady”. Even IF he took the laser off the gun before use it is still a stupid move.
Someone wanted to impress the Swiss and show them what a big boy he was...instead, just confirmed that the US is being lead by a bunch of idiots!
Exactly. And I am a big fan of LTC Cooper’s rules, from back when they were what they were/are, and the NRA was running a huge ridiculous list.
“Lasers on firearms are pretty useless in most situations anyway.”
Ever see someone at the range trying to acquire a target fast using their lazer? Its pretty funny. Open or dot sites are much faster.
I never did like laser pointers.
I always have, and always will us a long pointy stick.
Should be fired.
Another indication of the weak caliber of the Cuomo administration.
Oh, and I don’t mean 9mm.
Per Wiki, he is also a Giuliani fellow traveler and famous for......drum roll please.
“Jerome Hauer is best known for being the director of the Office of Emergency Management (OEM) when he made the decision to build a $13 million crisis center on the 23rd floor at 7 World Trade Center. This crisis center was unveiled in June 1999, and became the subject of tension between the agency and the Police Department, whose own command center at 1 Police Plaza had until then been the focus of emergency preparedness operations.
As the first director of the new crisis center, “one of Hauers first tasks was to find a home for an emergency command center to replace the inadequate facilities at police headquarters,” according to the Times. The site selected, was immediately controversial because it was part of the World Trade Center complex (although not in one of the Twin Towers), which had already been the location of a truck bomb attack in 1993. City officials, though, including Mr. Hauer, have long defended their decision, even after the command center had to be evacuated during the 2001 terror attack. The Emergency Operation Center was widely hailed as the finest such facility in the nation, receiving visitors from around the world and serving as a model for others.
The center was destroyed when the 47-story tower collapsed at about 5:25 p.m. on 9-11.”
“I never did like laser pointers. I always have, and always will us a long pointy stick.”
Thats really old school. The only problem I have with laser pointers is that many dont work on video screens and using the screen cursor is awkward.
Jesus. He tracked a man’s forehead. WTF.
If he had more than seven rounds in the magazine, pointing that gun at that Swede’s head would have been really unsafe.
This is stupid on so many levels.
Agree. I have given lots of presentations using PPT slides. Hate laser pointers. Always carried a collapsible pointer.
That said, a good presenter should rarely have to use the pointer. Face the audience and talk with the slide behind you. Shows you at least know the material. And forget the cutsy animations.
My rangemaster just laughs when someone comes in with one.
He recommends what he carries, its just a straight narrow bar that runs the length of the barrel, top of the gun. He sights down the edge of it, so simple and fast I can’t believe they aren’t more popular.
He holds the tightest patterns you have ever seen.
famous last words meets instant karma...
“He recommends what he carries, its just a straight narrow bar that runs the length of the barrel, top of the gun. He sights down the edge of it, so simple and fast I cant believe they arent more popular.”
That was recommended in a gun mag about 30 years ago so I tried it on my Dan Wesson using thin strip of white tape along the barrel rib. Worked pretty well except the tape kept getting rubbed off.
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The key is in the development of the slide. Slides should be kept simple and easily visual with limited information so that a speaker can effortlessly refer to a point on the slide with everyone knowing what part to look at. Slides with a lot of writing on them are discouraged. You do not want your audience to be lost in the slide while you are speaking. The speaker should always be the center of focus.
“Jerome M. Hauer, Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s director of homeland security”?..........
That says a lot right there.
That works for most subjects, but certain technical subjects require a large amount of info to make sense. Spreading out that info for 2-3 slides makes the presentation incoherent.
Also, laser pointers are wonderful for highlighting/tracing schematics for the electronically impaired.
Over use of a laser pointer, like most things, defeats their purpose, IMO.
I definitely agree that the speaker is the prime attraction, not the slides. The slides should remind the audience (when later reviewed) of what the speaker said. I know some that use the slides as the primary source - and I HATE delivering their presentations.
If he removed the laser, reholstered the gun, and then proceeded to used the targeting laser as a laser pointer, then I wouldn’t really have a problem with it (other than the whole liberal nut job with a loaded weapon in a place where the proletariat would be shot on sight for carrying thing). IMO that just falls into the category of using what you have on hand. But using the loaded gun itself as a laser pointer just screams, “As you can see from this map, we deployed our disaster response teams here [bang], here [bang], here [bang], and along the highway here [bang bang bang bang *click]. Oh, excuse me, I need to reload. Now, where was I? Oh, right. We put SWAT teams in these neighborhoods here [bang bang bang]...”
On the bright side, that would make it easier to see exactly where on the map he was indicating! /sarc
Using the one on a handgun, though, does bring a new meaning to the term “bullet points” in a presentation.
“Im really starting to get onboard with the liberalism is a mental illness notion”
Explained in my profile...you will “get it”.
A telescoping pointer in small venues. A cursor in large venues.
Bullet holes using tracer rounds in the screen for NY State officials.
Whacking the screen with a laser doesn't have the same effect.
Mostly to be used during the questions session as the info on a previously used slide is used as a discussion item.
Totally agree. I've been saying the same thing for years! The WORST presentation starts with "this slide shows us several interesting things"
Lasers work very well on “bedroom guns” for fast acquisition in dark rooms.
Or the desk of a nodding student - especially when you get the angle and swing just right, and the pointer hits the desk simultaneously along its length.
On TV maybe, or in the movies, possibly in COD Ghosts.
Not in real life.
“If he removed the laser, reholstered the gun, and then proceeded to used the targeting laser as a laser pointer, then I wouldnt really have a problem with it”
What if he unloaded and showed clear, then he would just be using a gun shaped laser pointer? Seriously the whole thing is absurb and inappropriate on a number of levels.
Agreed. However, I still think there's a major difference between using a "gun-shaped laser pointer" and a laser pointer which can be (but is not currently) attached to a gun.
Don't try to get around Rule #1. That is how accidents happen.
FFIW, he shouldn’t have a gun the police building.
But he won’t be prosecuted.
Delightful post LOL