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An Honorable Last Wish For A Dying Marine (Power Puke Alert)
NPR ^ | 1/6/13 | Quil Lawrence

Posted on 01/06/2014 8:56:38 AM PST by hoagy62

Hal Faulkner is 79 years old and he's already lived months longer than his doctors predicted.

"I don't know what to say, it's just incredible that I'm still here," Faulkner says in a halting voice made gruff by age and cancer.

Faulkner joined the Marines in 1953, and served in the Philippines. In 1956, he got kicked out with an "undesirable discharge" for being gay. His military papers said "homosexual" on them, quite an obstacle in the 1950s.

Still, Faulkner moved on, and had a successful career in sales.

A few years ago, when he got diagnosed with terminal cancer, Faulkner contacted his family about a dying wish.

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The Marines acted on his dying request in just two weeks. Last Friday in Florida, a small group presented Faulkner with his honorable discharge.

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"I didn't think that maybe I would last through all the battles that we've had, but a Marine is always a Marine," Faulkner said at the ceremony.

As he spoke, two young Marines in uniform presented him with his papers. Air Force Lt. Col. John Gillespie, who is on the board of OutServe-SLDN, read the new discharge paper out loud.

Friends and family stood by, mostly in tears, including Fred Sainz of the Human Rights Campaign which pushed for years to allow gays in the military. Sainz hopes more veterans will get their records upgraded.

"What happened today is that a dying man, his dignity was restored," Sainz says. "He will die here knowing that he served his country honorably. You certainly can't right the wrong of six decades, [but] you can make it right going forward. And that's what happened today, and that's what we hope will come to thousands of American similarly situated."

(Excerpt) Read more at npr.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cancer; falseacceptance; gay; homosexualagenda; marine; outrageous
A friend sent this to me.

Dear God....we have sunk SO low.

1 posted on 01/06/2014 8:56:39 AM PST by hoagy62
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To: hoagy62
Hank Hill sums it up for me pretty well.
2 posted on 01/06/2014 8:58:39 AM PST by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: hoagy62
He will die here knowing that he served his country honorably.

Did he?

3 posted on 01/06/2014 8:59:21 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: hoagy62

More To This Story Alert.


4 posted on 01/06/2014 9:03:20 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: hoagy62

Did he get his rainbow ribbon w/ pink pucker cluster?


5 posted on 01/06/2014 9:04:36 AM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: hoagy62

What about all of those discharged for rape, adultery, theft, murder, arson, pedophilia, bigamy, robbery and etc. Where are their upgraded discharges? LOL


6 posted on 01/06/2014 9:05:01 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have a gay friend (in his 80s now) who honorably served during Korea. Probably never mentioned his homosexuality and kept his hands to himself.


7 posted on 01/06/2014 9:10:24 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t be so impatient — it’ll take a little more time.


8 posted on 01/06/2014 9:13:29 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nidal Hassan clearly deserved an honorable discharge. A victim of Islamophobia!


9 posted on 01/06/2014 9:15:36 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: miss marmelstein

I have zero problem with that situation. The gentleman mentioned in the article obviously did something that alerted his superiors to his sexual proclivities, which is why he was discharged in such a manner. Apples and oranges.


10 posted on 01/06/2014 9:15:50 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, I agree with you! Gay men have served honorably in the armed forces since forever. That why I said we needed a more in-depth look at this little tall tale...


11 posted on 01/06/2014 9:18:07 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

Yes. . .and the fact he lied on his enlistment papers (where you deny homosexuality).

Even before he was a Marine, he lied.


12 posted on 01/06/2014 9:20:01 AM PST by Hulka
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Essentially. Same with Turing. During the war he kept picking up teenage boys who had runaway. The govt kept covering for him and telling him to knock it off. After the war when he kept getting busted they cut him loose and he got charged for picking up a runaway boy who claimed to be 19.

If he kept it in his pants or stuck to grown men, he’d have never been charged. But he kept insisting on going for young teen boys.

Dont know what this marine did to get chopped so hard but I’m doubting they found a signed picture of a shirtless Rock Hudson in his duffel bag.


13 posted on 01/06/2014 9:23:01 AM PST by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: miss marmelstein
I knew homosexuals in the Army. As long as they didn't bother me, what business was it of mine? I don't think I ever knew a female MP who wasn't a lesbian, now that I think of it. I once asked out a gal in my intelligence unit and she explained her situation and I dropped the matter. The sea is full of fish.
14 posted on 01/06/2014 9:23:18 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: hoagy62

His dignity was lost when his rectum fell out.


15 posted on 01/06/2014 9:29:34 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have no problem with this man receiving an honorable discharge. I personally believe that homosexuals should keep their tendencies in the closet in order to preserve good order and discipline, but otherwise let them serve.


16 posted on 01/06/2014 9:36:26 AM PST by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: hoagy62

“What happened today is that a dying man, his dignity was restored,” Sainz says. “He will die here knowing that he served his country honorably. You certainly can’t right the wrong of six decades, [but] you can make it right going forward. And that’s what happened today, and that’s what we hope will come to thousands of American similarly situated.”

What a load of hooey. My dignity isn’t what others think or say. I served my country honorably, from 1988-1992. I served during a “war time” but not “in war”. Am I disappointed? No - I did my job, what was asked of me by those appointed above me. I fulfilled my oath. MY dignity is intact - regardless of what others may say about me being “in the rear with the gear”, a “REMF”, etc.

This crap just makes me fed up.


17 posted on 01/06/2014 9:38:43 AM PST by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. ItÂ’s been found hard and not tried')
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To: hoagy62

Of course, after his millionth year in the torment of hell, that discharge status might not seem so important.


18 posted on 01/06/2014 9:43:15 AM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: hoagy62

Obama is always claiming to look for compromise.

Why not split the difference between an other than honorable discharge with the word HOMOSEXUAL on it and an honorable discharge by converting the discharge to a general discharge with the word FAGGOT on it?


19 posted on 01/06/2014 9:45:42 AM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: hoagy62
25 years ago the fastest way to get discharged from the Marines was to declare oneself a homosexual. Of course, the discharge would not be Honorable.

I actually saw a guy do that very thing. Never found out what the hell he was thinking, guess he just didn't want to be there anymore.

Took a couple weeks to process, and during that time he was writing letters to his WIFE.

I venture to say they probably aren't married anymore, and he's probably had a difficult time in life because of that stupid decision.

20 posted on 01/06/2014 10:01:56 AM PST by real saxophonist (The revolution will not be televised. Everything else will.)
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To: hoagy62

> A friend sent this to me.
Dear God....we have sunk SO low.

You mean the leftist MSM capitalizing on it to promote homosexuality with a “touchy / feeley” emotion manipulation tactic, right?


21 posted on 01/06/2014 10:08:09 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: ro_dreaming
You certainly can’t right the wrong of six decades

There was no "wrong." He was a homo. The Marines forbade homos from serving. When they found out he was a homo, they discharged him, and since he had lied about being a butt pirate, the discharge was dishonorable. As it should have been.

The only ones "wronged" here are the Marines, who have been portrayed as the bad guys while the rump wrecker is a poor, unfortunate "victim."

Hogwash.

22 posted on 01/06/2014 10:12:14 AM PST by IronJack
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To: hoagy62

If he was kicked out for being unfit, then he’s no longer a Marine. So, the opening sentence is a lie. No need to read further.


23 posted on 01/06/2014 10:49:08 AM PST by DPMD
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To: IronJack

Most likely, the Marines found out when he was arrested for Solicitation or was caught trying to molest a lower rank.

NY Times foodie Craig Claibourne served in the Navy in WW2 and Korea and he said homosexuality was more accepted in the service as long as you kept quiet about it. Especially if your steady lover had a wife.


24 posted on 01/06/2014 10:55:22 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: real saxophonist

Saw the same thing in the 1/27 during Tet, I was in another Unit. Put on a nightgown and offered to do unspeakable acts. Got the piss beat out of him and a Bad Conduct Discharge real quick.


25 posted on 01/06/2014 11:03:52 AM PST by Little Bill
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To: miss marmelstein
I sit next to a gay man in choir who has a Bronze Star, Purple Heart and one less leg than me. Who am I, who never served, to judge him?
26 posted on 01/06/2014 11:14:57 AM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama phones= Bread and circuits.)
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To: CrazyIvan

Why would you judge him?


27 posted on 01/06/2014 11:36:11 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: AppyPappy

Of course, Craig Claiborne had incestuous relations with his father (or so he claimed) so who knows?!


28 posted on 01/06/2014 11:37:33 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: hoagy62

You can certainly wrong the rights of six decades apparently


29 posted on 01/06/2014 11:38:48 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Smedley

but those horrible Christians should be persecuted with a jack boot down their throats

/sarc


30 posted on 01/06/2014 11:40:30 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: hoagy62

Why don’t the boa-boys at the Pentagon REALLY give him his “dying last wish”. Give him back pay back to ‘53 until now! LOL! Give it to all of the others who were thrown out for being homosexuals too! This is bull****! As for the back pay, that’s coming. The “lawyers” just haven’t gotten to it yet. “Fundamental transformation!” WAKE UP AMERICA!


31 posted on 01/06/2014 11:43:10 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If you like your ObamaCare, you can keep your ObamaCare. I'll pass. PERIOD!)
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To: CrazyIvan
>> I sit next to a gay man in choir who has a Bronze Star, Purple Heart and one less leg than me. Who am I, who never served, to judge him?

That Bronze Star, Purple Heart and lack of a leg won't get him into Heaven. Sodomy is an offense against God and man, a violation of the Natural Law and Divine Revelation. It is a deadly sin; he must, by the Grace of God repent of it and turn his life over to Christ. Otherwise, he is headed for Hell.

1 Cointhians 6:
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor sexual perverts, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.
12 “All things are lawful for me,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful for me,” but I will not be enslaved by anything. 13 “Food is meant for the stomach and the stomach for food”—and God will destroy both one and the other. The body is not meant for immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14 And God raised the Lord and will also raise us up by his power. 15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I therefore take the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? Never! 16 Do you not know that he who joins himself to a prostitute becomes one body with her? For, as it is written, “The two shall become one flesh.” 17 But he who is united to the Lord becomes one spirit with him. 18 Shun immorality. Every other sin which a man commits is outside the body; but the immoral man sins against his own body. 19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, which you have from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.

Your friend's military heroism in no way justify or excuse his foul lifestyle of dedication to immorality, to degrading God in his own body. If you care at all for him, you WILL judge his actions and call him to repent of them. May God abundantly bless both you and him with the grace to live lives of holiness, glorifying God in ALL that you do.

32 posted on 01/06/2014 11:46:00 AM PST by NorthMountain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve seen a female MP that wasn’t a lesbian, she was married to one of the officers in my unit.

When I was stationed in Germany, there were two gays in my unit and for the most part they kept to themselves until one PCS’d back to the ‘States and the other must have been missing his honey bunny or something because we got sent down to Hohenfels for a month and after formation at the end of the day he’d RUN to the barracks and get ready to hit the showers. He’d then RUN to the showers and would stay there for several hours. After three days he got busted by both the Colonel and Sgt Major (OOOOPS). The next morning he was on a bus back up to Baumholder (after spending the night on a cot in the TOC where he had to be escorted by two NCO’s where ever he went), and he was no where to be seen when we got back three weeks later.


33 posted on 01/06/2014 12:24:20 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Impeach 0bama)
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To: miss marmelstein
Many gays have served this country; they kept their sexual orientation to themselves, as it should be.
34 posted on 01/06/2014 1:27:53 PM PST by quadrant (1o)
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To: real saxophonist
When I was a brig chaser at PI, there was a whole ward full of guys who wanted out so badly they were willing to declare themselves homosexuals. I think - but I'm not certain - that many got Undesirable discharges rather than dishonorable one.
35 posted on 01/06/2014 1:31:20 PM PST by quadrant (1o)
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To: Little Bill
"Put on a nightgown and offered to do unspeakable acts. Got the piss beat out of him and a BCD"

Television show MASH would have been more enjoyable if that had happened to Klinger and about half the rest of the cast.

36 posted on 01/06/2014 1:37:04 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: quadrant

I know that.

A gay friend of mine who was drafted and fought in Korea knew that. I salute all our soldiers - gay and straight - who fought to protect us.

BUT: if someone acted in a dishonorable way - they needed to be kicked out of the armed forces.


37 posted on 01/06/2014 1:41:21 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein
Those recruits at PI hadn't been caught committing sodomy - and thus violating the UCMJ - they simply declared themselves gay because they wanted out of the Marine Corps. An undesirable discharge is an administrative discharge for the convenience of the service; they were not being discharged as the result of a violation of the UCMJ.
38 posted on 01/06/2014 3:59:53 PM PST by quadrant (1o)
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To: CrazyIvan

Who am I, who never served, to judge him?


If you are a Christian, you are not to pass judgment on him (his soul, spirit or being). You are to love him even if you discern behaviors as sinful, according to scripture. No Christian is a stranger to sin. All Christians should try to resist the temptation to sin and none should name evil, good.


39 posted on 01/07/2014 8:58:25 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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