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Meet the homemaker who could end Illinois' push to unionize home health care
Washington Examiner ^ | January 6, 2014 | SEAN HIGGINS

Posted on 01/07/2014 1:06:35 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Pamela Harris is an Illinois homemaker who takes care of her developmentally disabled son, Joshua. She gets financial help from a state program funded through Medicaid.

Technically, the subsidy goes to Joshua, who "employs" his mother as a home health care worker. Because of this arrangement, Illinois has decided that not only is she a state employee, but that it has compelling interest that she join a union.

Harris still doesn’t know why. It is not like she ever plans to go on strike against her son.

"I kept asking, 'What’s the benefit to me?' I could never get an answer," she told me Monday.

On Jan. 21, the U.S. Supreme Court will hear arguments by lawyers for her and seven other women, all but one of whom look after family members, into whether Illinois' push to unionize them is constitutional.

There’s a good chance that the justices will go further and upend existing precedents on public sector unions. The whole practice of requiring government employees to support a union could be ended.

Justice Samuel Alito’s majority opinion in last year’s case, Knox v. SEIU, hinted at it. He said that compulsory union fees "constitute a form of compelled speech and association that imposes a significant impingement on First Amendment rights."

Illinois’s policy, critics contend, does just that. The providers may be paid by the state, but they work at home, usually their own home. Their employment is based on arrangements with the patients — who can fire them if they want.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: homehealthcare; unions

1 posted on 01/07/2014 1:06:35 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I would point out that unionizing public employees also seems to constitute explicit government support and preferential treatment of a private enterprise (the union), but with Obamacare and the Bank bailouts, that ship seems to have sailed long ago.


2 posted on 01/07/2014 1:22:10 AM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Little Pig

It’s all about union dues for SEIU. And then increased donations from SEIU to State Dim campaign funds.

Michigan tried this, what, two years ago?


3 posted on 01/07/2014 1:36:49 AM PST by woofer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Pamela Harris is an Illinois homemaker who takes care of her developmentally disabled son, Joshua. She gets financial help from a state program funded through Medicaid.

First how could this homemaker be a state employee? Did she ever apply the state for employment, was she ever interviewed, does the state collect for a pension?

Second how could it be in the state’s interest that she be unionized? I have never known any employer that ever expressed to me that he thought it would be a good idea if his employees were to unionize if they were not already nor met one that thought it was good if they already were unionized.

Now there are certainly politicians that find advantages to unionized workers nearly all of them Democrats.

4 posted on 01/07/2014 1:46:36 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac
From the article: "Union organizers first approached Harris when they knocked on her front door. The state had given away her contact information without her knowledge.:

I dare say some of the union dues (SEIU and the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Workers, are fighting over the contract) will find their way back into Democrat campaign coffers.

5 posted on 01/07/2014 1:54:09 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: woofer; Little Pig; All
SEIU has been working to unionize home-run day cares for some time: MINNESOTA - Federal court halts vote to unionize home child-care providers ".....The order will continue at least until the U.S. Supreme Court decides whether to accept an appeal in a related case involving union organizing of care workers in Illinois. Both the Minnesota and Illinois appeals are being handled by the Virginia-based National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation, whose stated mission is to “eliminate coercive union power.”.....
6 posted on 01/07/2014 1:59:07 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
In 2009, current Gov. Pat Quinn declared home workers for the mentally disabled were also state workers.

Tellingly, both declarations stated that they were not public employees for the purposes of state pensions, health benefits or protection from civil liability. Just unionization.

So the union get’s the homemaker’s money but doesn’t get any benefits in return.

Who could turn down a deal like that?

The homemaker doesn’t have a supervisor to harass her or fire her so what is the union going to protect her from?

State law dictates what she will be paid so how is the union going to bargain for hire wages?

Sounds like a pretty one sided arrangement to me.

7 posted on 01/07/2014 2:38:48 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

No doubt a foot in the door to get SEIU in on the “business” of large numbers of “boomers” who will be living with family. Follow the money — I expect there will be union demands that these households get subsidies as they are taking pressure off state services, etc, etc, etc. It’s ALL about making us dependent on BIG government programs, and tax payer money from more and more programs being funneled through Democrat grasping fingers and routed to progressives. They have to grow the business of BIG government and need a reliable dependent class to vote D.


8 posted on 01/07/2014 2:49:00 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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According to law, the young man in this article will be allowed to vote when he is 18.

How many developmentally disabled are voting? They can be helped in the voting booth.

http://www.autismspeaks.org/blog/2012/10/16/autism-and-right-vote

http://www.autismafter16.com/article/10-16-2012/counting-votes


9 posted on 01/07/2014 2:53:06 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What SEIU loves most is stealing money from conservatives who have zero interest in being in one of their putrid unions...And this woman is such a person

SEIU is like the Obama regime...Tax and steal from us >>>>>>>>> The Obama/Democrat objective is>>>>

DEFUND conservatives and Republicans and normal Americans
FUND leftists, homos, lefty NGOs, useless Federal gov’t workers and every affirmative action baby under the sun

And in a suck-arse zero sum economy, when Obama funds his allies he does it by defunding you and other normal middle of the road Americans and conservatives


10 posted on 01/07/2014 3:04:15 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw

Perhaps Illinois could borrow Wisconsin’s Gov. Walker so he can “eliminate” the SEIU union. Busting the union worked here in Wisconsin.


11 posted on 01/07/2014 4:25:41 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Harris still doesn’t know why. It is not like she ever plans to go on strike against her son.

Whether she goes on strike or not isn't going to be up to her. It's going to be up to her union.

And if they decide to go on strike, she WILL go on strike. Or end up as a scab/picket line crosser. And we know how unions like the SEIU treat THOSE people ...
12 posted on 01/07/2014 4:30:16 AM PST by tanknetter (L)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

When you take government money, there are always strings attached.


13 posted on 01/07/2014 4:32:47 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people's than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: woofer

I think Michigan unionized babysitters nearly 10 years ago.


14 posted on 01/07/2014 4:54:22 AM PST by CMailBag
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To: Pontiac; Cincinatus' Wife

Absolutely no way she is a state employee, and that seems to be a point to make in the lawsuit.

She cares for her son who is getting disability from the state. If she is analogous to ANYTHING it might be like a contract worker.

The whole thing is a crock.

So now you can be compelled by law to buy a product (by the Feds) and TOLD by the Feds to re-sell a product to a compelled consumer that their regulations had forced you to stop selling AND -

A government entity can classify you as its employee no matter the truth, followed by compelling you to pay dues to a Union...

Welcome to an alternate universe, NOT America.


15 posted on 01/07/2014 6:09:29 AM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear" - Glenn Beck)
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To: CMailBag
I think Michigan unionized babysitters nearly 10 years ago.

I don't know what Michigan was 10 years ago but for the past couple of years or so, it's been a right to work state, so now they could be in a union or not, as they please.

16 posted on 01/07/2014 6:37:01 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: txrangerette
A government entity can classify you as its employee no matter the truth, followed by compelling you to pay dues to a Union...

That is the ultimate goal is it not?

That the state is all and all is the state. Even if they do not admit it even to themselves their actions speak louder than their words.

When they had the opportunity in a lame duck congress they pushed through Obamacare in the dead of night on Christmas taking total government control of one sixth of the economy.

The Democrat’s ultimate goal is total control of every aspect of human life.

So yes, you are correct, they believe that every citizen should be a government employee. Long Live the Revolution comrade.

17 posted on 01/07/2014 3:18:56 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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