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Jobless benefits bill clears key Senate hurdle, over GOP complaints on cost(Reid's subject change)
Fox News ^ | January 07, 2014

Posted on 01/07/2014 8:55:36 AM PST by sickoflibs

A controversial jobless benefits bill narrowly cleared a key Senate hurdle on Tuesday, over the objections of Republicans who complain the $6 billion measure is not paid for.

Senators voted 60-37 to advance the bill extending long-term jobless benefits, which expired Dec. 28. Democrats needed 60 votes to move the bill forward.

But Republicans blasted Democratic leaders for pushing the bill without any plan to offset the cost elsewhere in the budget.

"This is all borrowed -- every penny of it," Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., told Fox News.

Backers of the extension still need to clear several additional votes in the Senate, before the GOP-controlled House can even consider it. House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer, of Maryland, voiced hope that the Senate could pressure the House to act on the bill.

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1 posted on 01/07/2014 8:55:36 AM PST by sickoflibs
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To: sickoflibs

Cut the Vets benefits, but toss “free” money at the bums who won’t take a job after 2 years. I am amazed at the dispicable immorality of our government.


2 posted on 01/07/2014 8:57:46 AM PST by vpintheak (Thankful to be God blessed & chosen!)
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To: sickoflibs

so the socialist D leadership is going to spend more of our tax money to create more unemployment ... instead of allowing the economy to recover and provide real jobs for people.

we just HAVE to vote these destructive people OUT in 2014!

pray for America!


3 posted on 01/07/2014 8:58:54 AM PST by faithhopecharity (no)
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To: sickoflibs

If the Republicans had anything between their ears they’d block this unless its coupled with the Pipeline.


4 posted on 01/07/2014 8:58:56 AM PST by chopperman
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To: vpintheak
Cut the Vets benefits, but toss “free” money at the bums who won’t take a job after 2 years. I am amazed at the dispicable immorality of our government.

Amen

5 posted on 01/07/2014 8:59:33 AM PST by scooby321
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To: sickoflibs

Fox is reporting that Obama has gathered a group of long-term unemployed “victims” for a “scathing speech and photo op” moments after this was defeated.

Pubbies not taking the bait apparently.


6 posted on 01/07/2014 9:00:41 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: chopperman

I might consider an extension deal only if it included an immediate drawdown of the benefits. Those who have been repeatedly extended should expect $10 or $20 less with each successive check.

However the democrats would vow to pass it separately then dump the deal as soon as they got the extension.


7 posted on 01/07/2014 9:05:04 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: sickoflibs
Obama is spewing the mantra, "Unemployment benefits create jobs and stimulate the economy."

King O also blamed Bush for the current jobless situation. The recession was so bad, people are still unemployed.

8 posted on 01/07/2014 9:05:22 AM PST by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: sickoflibs

I don’t think the votes are there in the HOuse unless they can figure a way to pay for it.


9 posted on 01/07/2014 9:06:06 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: cripplecreek

The Pipeline provides jobs. Coupling this to the popular Pipeline issue puts the Dems on the defensive.


10 posted on 01/07/2014 9:07:01 AM PST by chopperman
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To: vpintheak; faithhopecharity; TexasFreeper2009; chopperman; Buckeye McFrog
RE :”Cut the Vets benefits, but toss “free” money at the bums who won’t take a job after 2 years. I am amazed at the dispicable immorality of our government”

Immediately after the vote Obama put a unemployed woman on TV as his lead in.

She thanked Obama for trying to save her family with this bill. She said she needs it to pay the bills and she gets up every day looking for a job.

Now he is on TV (MSNBC showing it) praising the unemployed and explaining that they are victims, ‘working their tails off trying to get jobs’.

Says they cant look for a job without this $$$ to pay for gas to get to interviews and cell phone bill.(they been off > 100 weeks!)

11 posted on 01/07/2014 9:08:13 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: chopperman

Agreed. Pretty much everything the republicans vote on should be tied to cutting regulations and taxes in some way.


12 posted on 01/07/2014 9:08:56 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: sickoflibs

Why is a spending bill originating in the Senate?


13 posted on 01/07/2014 9:10:27 AM PST by PTBAA
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To: sickoflibs

“This is all borrowed — every penny of it,”
Yay! Free money!

Voters love free money, and the media gets a 5 to 10 per cent cut of it in advertising costs. What could go wrong?


14 posted on 01/07/2014 9:11:19 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: sickoflibs

the reason they have been out of work over 100 weeks already is because Obama and his people have been destroying American jobs en masse

also, there really is a problem with some of these folks not being willing to work (they can make more by sitting on their butts at home watching Oprah reruns, just by collecting all the dole checks and benefits including “extended” (meaning, welfare) unemployment for years and years and years)

the local small business people complain that nobody wants to work anymore, and they can’t fill their vacant jobs.

this is destroying the American economy and needlessly turning many perfectly good, able-bodied people into useless welfare bums... we get what we pay for...


15 posted on 01/07/2014 9:13:22 AM PST by faithhopecharity (no)
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To: PTBAA
RE :”Why is a spending bill originating in the Senate?”

Because they don't think the House will pass one first.

16 posted on 01/07/2014 9:13:27 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: NautiNurse
RE:”King O also blamed Bush for the current jobless situation. The recession was so bad, people are still unemployed. “

Technically he never mentioned Bush but it was implied there.

Here's an irony.

Democrats lamest argument for extending deficit-based unemployment benefits beyond 26 weeks:Bush | 1/7/2014

17 posted on 01/07/2014 9:16:05 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Let's bet that this is a demographic setup as photo ops go.

Normally, it's difficult to find a white face among his photo ops. Michelle's ops....A white kid is almost unheard of.

Bet this one is full of whites.

18 posted on 01/07/2014 9:17:15 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: PTBAA

It goes back and forth. Not a big deal.


19 posted on 01/07/2014 9:18:11 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: faithhopecharity
RE :”the reason they have been out of work over 100 weeks already is because Obama and his people have been destroying American jobs en masse”

Why are Dems citing Bush extending unemploment comp without paying for it?

Democrats lamest argument for extending deficit-based unemployment benefits beyond 26 weeks:Bush | 1/7/2014 |

20 posted on 01/07/2014 9:18:25 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: PTBAA
Why is a spending bill originating in the Senate?

It's so cute how you think the Constitution matters anymore. Now citizen, please, for your own good, be silent and pay your taxes. Kathy and Julia need your support.

21 posted on 01/07/2014 9:18:36 AM PST by Drill Thrawl (The Gubment Has No Legitimacy. It needs to be Removed!)
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To: sickoflibs

What’s another 6 billion on top of 88 trillion (that’s trillion with a T) that isn’t reported properly. We are at least 88 trillion in debt already...


22 posted on 01/07/2014 9:19:14 AM PST by jurroppi1
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To: sickoflibs; All

“This is all borrowed — every penny of it,” Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., told Fox News.

And THIS bill is different from the other UNFUNDED HUNDREDS of OTHERS passed through the years - as well as UNFUNDED 0bamacare?

Our leaders are insane! I secede from The Union! From here on out, the 1.2 square miles I own is my own country! Flag to follow!

I thought not extending these benefits was the ONLY concession we GOT from the Government Shutdown?

Aarrgghhhh!!!!!!!!!!


23 posted on 01/07/2014 9:20:35 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: jurroppi1

They can always raise taxes later when it reaches a crisis, then again, and again, like Maryland does.


24 posted on 01/07/2014 9:22:22 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: sickoflibs

sorry I have no idea

but the socialist communist IslamoNazi crowd who’ve usurped the D party leadership are well known for saying ANYTHING to get what they want


25 posted on 01/07/2014 9:22:44 AM PST by faithhopecharity (no)
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To: vpintheak
bums who won't take a job after two years

Valid arguments on both sides of this issue. But, one of the attitudes that continue to perplex me are attitudes like your statement.

Many of these unemployed are older generation individuals who have burned through any savings and who are unable to find work, simply because in many areas of this country, there are no jobs. In other locations, the limited jobs available are going to younger workers.

Your statement makes it sound as if things are just fine in the Obama economy and it's these unemployed who just want something for nothing, as if these unemployed aren't victims at all. I'm fairly sure nothing is further from the truth.

The hostility being expressed by some here and elsewhere is misdirected. Instead of blaming the unemployed, why are so few identifying the real cause of a terrible jobs market and placing blame where it belongs...the resident at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

26 posted on 01/07/2014 9:24:41 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: sickoflibs

Politicians continue to endorse their stupidity.


27 posted on 01/07/2014 9:37:00 AM PST by mulligan
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To: sickoflibs

So if this is a spending Bill then how can it originate in the senate?


28 posted on 01/07/2014 9:37:51 AM PST by Revel
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To: Revel
So if this is a spending Bill then how can it originate in the senate?

Good question, but I'm sure Dirty Harry has some ploy to make it legal in the court of the MSM.

29 posted on 01/07/2014 9:41:39 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: sickoflibs
People who were making 50k before might have truly never been worth that much and had a bump from the prior market.
In today's market where reality sets the pay scale it could be that 50k person was never worth that and can't find a anyone who will pay them more than 22k a year, so they refuse to work. They want to stay home and not work while waiting for the never appearing 50k job again.

IMO, they need to grow up and move on. You may have been a former government worker making 70k and could find you are actually hardly qualified to make minimum wage in the real world.

30 posted on 01/07/2014 9:44:24 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: sickoflibs

Time to name names:

“The measure, (was) sponsored by Republican Dean Heller of Nevada and Democrat Jack Reed of Rhode Island

Five Republicans joined Heller to support moving forward on the legislation — Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire, Dan Coats of Indiana and Rob Portman of Ohio.”


Once again former Tea Party darling Kelly Ayotte shows her true RINO ideology.


31 posted on 01/07/2014 9:45:14 AM PST by fifedom
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To: sickoflibs

Unemployment benefits have now morphed into a government entitlement.

They will never be curtailed.


32 posted on 01/07/2014 9:54:27 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: PTBAA
Why is a spending bill originating in the Senate?

Because it would never get off the ground in the House, and that would deprive leftists of an issue to screech about in the hopes of diverting everyone's attention from Obamacare. All the media will report is that House Republicans are denying people who have collected two years of unemployment from getting another three months. A professional victimcrat makes for much more lurid soundbites and video than the truth does ("spending bills originate in the House, so this is all Harry Reid wasting time to put on a show").
33 posted on 01/07/2014 9:55:35 AM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Rational Thought

Sorry, but if someone can’t find work after 2 YEARS, they belong on welfare, not collecting unemployment benefits.

That’s why we have a welfare system!


34 posted on 01/07/2014 9:56:39 AM PST by catman67
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To: A CA Guy
I think you are absolutely correct.

Interesting though that they can suddenly find a way to survive on $1200 a month (or whatever it is) collecting UE.

35 posted on 01/07/2014 9:57:52 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: sickoflibs
Now he is on TV (MSNBC showing it) praising the unemployed and explaining that they are victims, ‘working their tails off trying to get jobs’.

Does he take responsibility for the economic mess he created that caused all this unemployment? /s
36 posted on 01/07/2014 9:59:31 AM PST by yorkiemom
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To: PTBAA
Why is a spending bill originating in the Senate?

Good point.
37 posted on 01/07/2014 9:59:58 AM PST by yorkiemom
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To: riri

There are people on SS that only get $600 a month, and they have troubles getting increases, but we can afford to enable formally over paid people for two years.

Democrats and some Republicans LOVE playing monopoly with the public treasury.


38 posted on 01/07/2014 10:03:02 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: sickoflibs
The following is a list of Republican senators who broke ranks and voted to advance a bill extending long-term jobless benefits on Tuesday.

Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-N.H.

Sen. Dan Coats, R-Ind.

Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine

Sen. Dean Heller, R-Nev.

Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska

Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio

39 posted on 01/07/2014 10:07:40 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Rational Thought
Many of these unemployed are older generation individuals who have burned through any savings and who are unable to find work, simply because in many areas of this country, there are no jobs. In other locations, the limited jobs available are going to younger workers.

Bingo.

Your statement makes it sound as if things are just fine in the Obama economy and it's these unemployed who just want something for nothing, as if these unemployed aren't victims at all. I'm fairly sure nothing is further from the truth.

The hostility being expressed by some here and elsewhere is misdirected. Instead of blaming the unemployed, why are so few identifying the real cause of a terrible jobs market and placing blame where it belongs...the resident at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

As someone who is older and has been unemployed for over a year I thank you. It is very difficult as an older worker to find a job and for those who want to tell me to work at mcdonalds etc, let me tell you, mcdonalds isn't going to waste their time and money on me because they know as soon as the economy turns around I'm outta there and secondly, I speak English! There is an incredible amount of age discrimination, I've experienced it over the last year, can't prove it, my word against theirs but I can tell you it's blatantly obvious employers are not interested in older workers, they want the young so they can mold them, they want the young who don't know any better, they want the young who will take the BS.

People on unemployment are not making money hand over fist like some people believe. Here in MA you get half of what you were making and there is a limit....if you were making $500. a week you get $250.00 on unemployment BEFORE taxes, trying paying your bills on that....or if you were making over $1306.00 a week the max you can get from unemployment in MA is $653.00 a week BEFORE taxes....imagine a sales person making $100k a year = $1923 a week and here in MA that person would only get $653. a week, trying paying your bills on that and feeding your family, etc. In other states the formula is a lot different and the amounts are a lot smaller. And AFAIK no one is getting 99 weeks anymore, IIRC they did away with that.

40 posted on 01/07/2014 10:11:32 AM PST by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Fox is reporting that Obama has gathered a group of long-term unemployed “victims” for a “scathing speech and photo op” moments after this was defeated.

I'm a little confused. The article says it passed the Cloture vote.

41 posted on 01/07/2014 10:11:48 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: facedown

Impossible. McQueeg isn’t on the list.


42 posted on 01/07/2014 10:12:24 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Rational Thought

Your post is spot on. I have a BS and have started my Master’s yet still have a hard time landing even part time work, as I have recently begun sending out my CV for PT work instead of just FT as I was doing previously. I am amazed at the headlines which claim the economy is recovering. Does not feel that way to me.


43 posted on 01/07/2014 10:18:02 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: catman67

Nowhere are people getting 99 weeks anymore. Even in the highest unemployment states, I believe the max is now 72. So enough with the 2 year nonsense.....that ain’t happening anymore.


44 posted on 01/07/2014 10:20:13 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Cyber Liberty
McQueeg isn’t on the list.

Yeah, either Ayotte got her vote wrong or McQueeg screwed up. Ayotte always clears her vote with McQueeg and Linda Graham before casting a vote.

45 posted on 01/07/2014 10:21:07 AM PST by TexasRedeye (Eschew Obfuscation)
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To: sickoflibs
So I guess ryan's grand bargain w/ Murray was a lie.

The only people that didn't see this coming are those w/ their heads up the @ss:

ie the GOPe.

46 posted on 01/07/2014 10:21:16 AM PST by Pietro
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To: sickoflibs

If anybody in congers was actually interested in creating jobs then Boner and the slugs could include approval for the Canadian oil pipeline in the unemployment extension bill. You figger they are gonna extend but doing it without getting something from the Kenyan would be just plain incompetent——but that wouldn’t be news either, I guess?


47 posted on 01/07/2014 10:35:30 AM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: sickoflibs
Years long unemployment insurance benefits are just another name for welfare.
48 posted on 01/07/2014 10:49:57 AM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: Pietro
RE :”So I guess ryan’s grand bargain w/ Murray was a lie.”

Not as it relates to this.

Dems are doing this because they didn't get it in the deal.

Now if Bohner caves that's different. But right now it looks like he is demanding Spending cuts and Reid is just staging this show to help Senate Dems in next years races.

49 posted on 01/07/2014 10:53:23 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: sickoflibs; Jet Jaguar; 2ndDivisionVet; blueunicorn; xzins

Yo! You! Military moochers. Before you go into battle, I need to tax you some more.....because Harry Reid and Barry Obama just texted me.....they want $25 Billion for a temporary extension of unemployment checks. So pony up!


50 posted on 01/07/2014 11:17:42 AM PST by SkyPilot
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