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Most problem drinkers not alcoholics, CDC reports
FoxNews ^ | Jonathan Serrie

Posted on 01/07/2014 7:02:10 PM PST by RoosterRedux

At least 38 million U.S. adults drink too much, and most of them are not alcoholics, according to a new “Vital Signs” report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

“For every one person who is alcoholic there are about six who are problem drinkers, drinking enough to adversely affect their lives, their health, their work situation or family situation,” CDC director Dr. Tom Frieden said.

Three-quarters of Americans who drink too much are considered “binge drinkers.” This includes men who consume more than four alcoholic drinks in one setting and women who consume more than three.

But excessive drinking can also include “high average drinkers” (men who consume more than an average of two drinks per day or 14 per week and women who average more than one drink per day or seven per week). Any alcohol consumed by pregnant women, people under the age of 21 or people driving cars or operating heavy machinery is considered too much, Frieden said.

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1 posted on 01/07/2014 7:02:10 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

” - - - At least 38 million U.S. adults drink too much, and most of them are not alcoholics, - - - “ yet.


2 posted on 01/07/2014 7:07:08 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Shocker! How much did this stupid study cost us?


3 posted on 01/07/2014 7:07:15 PM PST by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: RoosterRedux
I will fess up first.

I am not a bing drinker, but I have a problem with alcohol.

This is my 2014 resolution to stop all alcohol consumption.

I am not an alcoholic but there are times I think that might be easier.

I have a drinking problem...and I want to overcome it.

4 posted on 01/07/2014 7:09:01 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

How long is a “setting?” What if one has six drinks through 6 hours? Does that make someone an alcoholic, or a binge drinker?


5 posted on 01/07/2014 7:09:27 PM PST by wastedyears (The Ender's Game movie was a stupendous, colossal, galactic failure to me.)
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To: RoosterRedux

You can do it if you want to do it.

Get some help and good luck.

.


6 posted on 01/07/2014 7:12:35 PM PST by Mears
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To: wastedyears
You know whether you want to change your life or not. No one else needs to tell you (and they don't know anyway).

I like sobriety...I like being sober for days on end.

I think I am at the end of this rope.;-)

7 posted on 01/07/2014 7:13:02 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: wastedyears

The expert is no longer around to ask.

He died at his home in Hyannis Port, Mass. at age 77 in August of 2009.


8 posted on 01/07/2014 7:13:49 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: RoosterRedux

It’s not what you drink or how much you drink, it’s what happens when you drink.


9 posted on 01/07/2014 7:13:58 PM PST by jocon307
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To: Mears
Thx for that. I have been to AA and they said "you aren't an addict."

I am doing pretty well...

But you know, your point is well taken.

Serious drunks realize they have a serious problem...moderate drunks can lie to themselves forever.

10 posted on 01/07/2014 7:15:28 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux
I'm strictly a social or dinner drinker. I only drink on Fridays, since I work 2 jobs.

My cases of tall-can Busch Light days are over :-)

11 posted on 01/07/2014 7:17:09 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Obama is very angry and will get to the bottom of it.)
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To: wastedyears

It’s not what you drink, how much or how often you do. It’s what happens when you drink that matters.


12 posted on 01/07/2014 7:17:28 PM PST by jmacusa ("Chasing God out of the classroom didn't usher in The Age of Reason''.)
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To: wastedyears

If you wake up next to a strange chick that has facial hair, you probably have a drinking problem.


13 posted on 01/07/2014 7:17:46 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: RoosterRedux

When will they figure out the same regarding most problem drivers?


14 posted on 01/07/2014 7:20:42 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: RoosterRedux

I was witha gf for several years who was a Case Study for alcoholism.

And I mean that she, and then and her entire family were part of a 20+ year research by a gal at IU.

They got a lot of data outta her, I can tell you.


15 posted on 01/07/2014 7:20:50 PM PST by digger48
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To: RoosterRedux

Serious drunks tell their first lie to the person they see every morning when they look in the mirror.


16 posted on 01/07/2014 7:22:20 PM PST by digger48
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To: RoosterRedux
This just proves we need to ban alcoholic beverages. It will solve the whole problem.

Hey, it worked with hand guns, didn't it?

17 posted on 01/07/2014 7:24:13 PM PST by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: RoosterRedux
I have a potentially serious condition as of last July.

I have been pushing myself to eat/drink as healthily as possible, including not drinking alcohol. It is not easy, but reading the Psalms and the passages on God's holiness helps me a lot to try to stay on the straight and narrow.

18 posted on 01/07/2014 7:24:53 PM PST by what's up
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To: jocon307

I guess so.

But all folks who drink get a new personality when they drink.

Life is easier and looser and more fun.

The problems start in about 40 years. Sometimes less.


19 posted on 01/07/2014 7:25:54 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

Gotta manufacture more criminals.


20 posted on 01/07/2014 7:27:54 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Standing Wolf
Oh come on...this isn't about prohibition.

This is about personal wars.

21 posted on 01/07/2014 7:27:58 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: Graewoulf
Not necessarily so.

Many drinkers can take it or leave it, they feel no compulsion, they just like drinking. They can quit with no withdrawal symptoms.

22 posted on 01/07/2014 7:28:32 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: RoosterRedux
Most problem drinkers not alcoholics, CDC reports

Maybe. But I don't trust a branch of an entirely out-of-control nanny-state to define when drinking is a "problem". I bet if I heard their definition it wouldn't be anything I'd recognize as reality.

23 posted on 01/07/2014 7:28:53 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking
But I don't trust a branch of an entirely out-of-control nanny-state to define when drinking is a "problem".

Finding problems that need solved is how you justify more money and people for your agency.

24 posted on 01/07/2014 7:34:23 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Rome2000

Three times now I’ve woken up on a train headed in the wrong direction.


25 posted on 01/07/2014 7:35:22 PM PST by wastedyears (The Ender's Game movie was a stupendous, colossal, galactic failure to me.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I was asking those questions as scientific questions, not if they would pertain to me.


26 posted on 01/07/2014 7:35:49 PM PST by wastedyears (The Ender's Game movie was a stupendous, colossal, galactic failure to me.)
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To: tacticalogic

You’re not kidding.


27 posted on 01/07/2014 7:37:11 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: RoosterRedux

I used to think I was an alcoholic. Now, I can afford it.


28 posted on 01/07/2014 7:39:17 PM PST by REDWOOD99 ("Everyone should pay taxes. Everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: Still Thinking
You’re not kidding.

Unfortunately, no. "Unmet needs" is the bitcoin of the beltway, and they have people dedicated to mining for them.

29 posted on 01/07/2014 7:41:03 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: RoosterRedux

Best of luck to you and admitting that you have a problem is a great step forward. Best wishes.


30 posted on 01/07/2014 7:47:05 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I find that substituting a good hot tea for wine works well when I want to cut back. I think I like the idea of drinking a glass of wine more than I actually like drinking it. I can’t stop at one, always at least 2. It’s like potato chips, so I find that just not having any makes me feel so much better the next day.


31 posted on 01/07/2014 7:48:27 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: laplata
Thx much you my brother.

I think I am ready!

32 posted on 01/07/2014 7:49:10 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: laplata
Thx much you my brother.

I think I am ready!

33 posted on 01/07/2014 7:49:12 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

You can do it! God bless you.


34 posted on 01/07/2014 7:51:03 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: dandiegirl
I did the tea thing for a while. Work rather nicely...for a while.

But then I am back here again.

35 posted on 01/07/2014 7:51:08 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

Four beers in one sitting makes you a binge drinker? LOL

Damn, I better admit myself in the morning.


36 posted on 01/07/2014 7:51:57 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: Mears

Thx Mears...and going to start tomorrow.


37 posted on 01/07/2014 7:52:55 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

I can see why people slide into alcoholism (especially women) once the children all leave. Suddenly you don’t really have to get up early anymore etc, so you think I’ll have one more and one more then the next day is ruined. Fortunately I like to exercise, get up early and feel good. I have a family member that has been a pretty bad alcoholic for 30 years so I try to watch it.


38 posted on 01/07/2014 7:54:51 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: RoosterRedux

Your Home/About page is very good and inspiring. You’re already on the right track, friend.


39 posted on 01/07/2014 7:55:52 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: RoosterRedux
...report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

I wonder how many studies of the general public's private lives it take to classify a public agency as a binge busy-body, strike that, a stone cold drunk mauler of good decent people who relax in their homes with family and friends...

40 posted on 01/07/2014 7:56:00 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: DoughtyOne
Maybe not you...but I am ready to get rid of this habit.

I want to devout my life to God all the time (and I hope he is ready for my mistakes).

41 posted on 01/07/2014 7:56:26 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: laplata

Thx much!


42 posted on 01/07/2014 7:59:42 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

And I fully support that.

Nobody should be doing things that interfere in other people’s lives negatively, whether they are drunk or sober.

Alcohol can obviously be abused. I don’t want to see it affect people negatively.

I do believe that it is a part of a healthy lifestyle when used in moderation. I don’t think four beers is a good idea on a steady basis, but I’m not going to label it as a major problem if someone drinks four beers during a sitting.

I have been known to drink 14x12oz beers over seven hours. At the end of the seven hours I was relatively sober. I was walking normally, talking normally, and didn’t bother anyone at all as I slept on the sidewalk. (not really) LOL

Different strokes for different folks.

I am a happy drinker. I have a few drinks and I laugh and have a good time with others. Some folks have a few drinks and get violent. That person needs to stop drinking completely.


43 posted on 01/07/2014 8:02:45 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: dandiegirl

I’m in a similar boat! I love to drink wine but I find it disrupts my sleep. I too find that stocking up on tea or decaf coffee give me an option to drink something in the evenings instead of snacking or drinking wine.


44 posted on 01/07/2014 8:04:22 PM PST by clarissaexplainsitall
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To: RoosterRedux

“Thx for that. I have been to AA and they said “you aren’t an addict.”

NO ONE is AA has the right to judge you. Get to a different meeting. I can’t believe anyone said that to you,but there are jerks everyplace.

.


45 posted on 01/07/2014 8:05:32 PM PST by Mears
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To: RoosterRedux
Good for you.

If you DECIDE to do it, you WILL do it.

I don't and will never believe it's outside one's control or that one must accept a "higher power" to stop drinking. It's a choice, like overeating or smoking.

You'll make it. :)

46 posted on 01/07/2014 8:05:48 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: DoughtyOne

I am a happy drunk. But I want to be sober, not drunk!


47 posted on 01/07/2014 8:06:46 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

Becoming an alcoholic can be a slow process. Upwards of 10 years or more. If you feel you need it to handle daily life, then you have a problem.

I lived with an alcoholic gf for one year. She was a drunk from the age of 13 in a family with an alcoholic father and older brother. I had to realize it was her choice to live or die. You won’t love someone into getting help. The last service I did for her was have her arrested under an order of protection. She sobered up in jail, got the proper meds she needed all her life for depression and has been sober for 3 1/2 years.

She thanked me for saving her life but I told her that was her ultimate doing. I just gave her a shove.

I’m just glad I’m not visiting her in the cemetery. We both have our own lives now but remain friends.

The absolute madness of watching someone commit slow motion suicide leaves a mark on you. I’ll never think about alcohol the same way again. As the one who was sober throughout all of it, I get to have the bad memories of it all. Working through that now and I know I’ll be fine. It’s boundaries and choices.


48 posted on 01/07/2014 8:07:35 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: RoosterRedux

This article is crap. No one has a right to say one is, or is not, an alcoholic — except the person in question.


49 posted on 01/07/2014 8:08:34 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I understand that. You’re doing exactly what you should be doing. It’s your life. You have determined what is best for you, and I couldn’t be happier for you.

I don’t drink like I used to. I was drinking too much. It wasn’t necessary. There were some underlying things going on. I wouldn’t urge others to do what I did.

It is true that I used to be able to drink a steady supply of beer and still maintain, but you don’t need to do that to be happy, or enjoy yourself. And that is the real kicker for me.

If you want to drink, have a couple and then one later if you want. If you don’t want, then don’t.

If you’re happier without drinking, I’m all for it.

I do get nervous when another busy-body government agency tries to develop the information to help us.


50 posted on 01/07/2014 8:11:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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