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21-Year-Old Man Murdered After Trying To Break Up Fight At Pre-Baptism Party
CBS MIAMI ^ | 1/7/14

Posted on 01/08/2014 4:52:32 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

A grieving mother and father are asking for the public’s help after their 21-year-old son was gunned down while trying to break up a fight at a pre-baptism party...

A number of fights broke out during that party, according to police. The first fight broke out over food and a lack of proper utensils. Police say that lead to an argument between one of the party guests and a kitchen helper.

(Excerpt) Read more at miami.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: guns; race
Al Sharpton won't care....George Zimmerman wasn't involved.
1 posted on 01/08/2014 4:52:32 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Oh, and the fight was over paper plates....did you catch that?


2 posted on 01/08/2014 4:53:53 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Went to a hockey game a pre-bapitism party broke out.


3 posted on 01/08/2014 4:54:39 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: SoFloFreeper
To the best of my knowledge *nobody* attending *any* of the many christening celebrations I've had the privilege to attend in my life was packing heat.
4 posted on 01/08/2014 5:00:57 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: SoFloFreeper
“North Miami Beach Police said the shooting happened just after 4 a.m. last Sunday after a large number of uninvited guests showed up at the house after a notice about the party was posted on the social media website TAGGED.”

A 4am pre-baptism party for your godchild, posted on TAGGED? The decline in American society is heart wrenching. There are ‘reality shows’ all over cable now showing vulgar and profane brides, vulgar housewives, etc. etc. We are becoming, or have become, the Jerry Springer show, as a country.

5 posted on 01/08/2014 5:03:44 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: SoFloFreeper

Pre-baptism party???

They have those?

Seems a little odd to me... like drawing attention to self rather than Christ.


6 posted on 01/08/2014 5:04:37 AM PST by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

This appears to have involved members of the Haitian community.

Police have no suspect, as yet.


7 posted on 01/08/2014 5:06:20 AM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“...a large number of uninvited guests showed up at the house after a notice about the party was posted on the social media website TAGGED.”

Who’s the idiot that posted on TAGGED?

That’s just looking for trouble.


9 posted on 01/08/2014 5:07:20 AM PST by G Larry
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To: SoFloFreeper
at 4AM...
10 posted on 01/08/2014 5:10:03 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Safrguns

That grabbed my attention too. Never heard of a “pre-baptism” party before. Shouldn’t you actually be baptized first before celebrating it? It’s like having a graduation party before you actually graduate. Sounds weird.


11 posted on 01/08/2014 5:10:46 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

People just never seem to learn. Put your life on the net and your life is no longer your own. Advertise a party on a ‘social’ network and you have invited anyone who sees it.

STUPID!!! STUPID!!! STUPID!!!


12 posted on 01/08/2014 5:11:37 AM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: old and tired
I'm sure that's not true, but they probably just weren't drunk assholes.

I'm confidant that I'm correct to believe this.I travel in very sedate,buttoned down,boring circles.And BTW...I'm Irish and as you surely know we Irish don't need much of an excuse to get drunk...happy occasion *or* sad.

13 posted on 01/08/2014 5:11:45 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Gay State Conservative
To the best of my knowledge *nobody* attending *any* of the many christening celebrations I've had the privilege to attend in my life was packing heat.

Key phrase "to the best of my knowledge".

14 posted on 01/08/2014 5:12:52 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Key phrase "to the best of my knowledge".

See post #13

15 posted on 01/08/2014 5:14:28 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

*nobody* attending *any* of the many christening celebrations I’ve had the privilege to attend in my life was packing heat.”

You haven’t attended baptism parties in San Antonio then.


16 posted on 01/08/2014 5:18:27 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: txrefugee
You haven’t attended baptism parties in San Antonio then.

You'd be correct in that assumption.The only knowledge I have of San Antonio is the stories I heard from a number of guys who got their medic training at Fort Sam Houston.And most of those stories weren't very flattering. ;-)

17 posted on 01/08/2014 5:23:31 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: txrefugee

dad was NYPD along with some cousins and my Uncle(Moms brother). when they came to family functions they would put their pieces atop the fridge where us little pitchers (hopefully)couldn’t reach them(this was in the ‘50s and early ‘60s and ideas regarding safety were different). this was true for Christmas, Christenings, independence day celebrations...etc.

I do believe it was for comfort while sitting and not for safety. this was before all the nice little lightweight guns and comfortable concealment holsters.


18 posted on 01/08/2014 5:28:42 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Classic example of the gun delusions on both sides of the debate.

The larger the number of responsible, law-abiding citizens that are armed, the more crime declines.

The larger the number of criminal, low-life thugs that pack heat all the time, the more such shootings will occur.

The variable, contrary to leftist opinion, is not the presence of concealed weapons that magically jump out and attack unsuspecting people.

Contrary to some conservative opinion, the presence of guns also does not magically prevent crime.

The variable is the character of those who are armed.


19 posted on 01/08/2014 5:31:12 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Gay State Conservative

Actually, I’m not excited about attending any gathering where I’m not armed.............


20 posted on 01/08/2014 5:34:26 AM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: Vaquero

Ha...brought back memories for me. My dad also NYPD in the fifties and I remember as a little tyke him coming home and putting his snub nose .38 on top of his tall dresser in the bedroom. He was a detective by then.


21 posted on 01/08/2014 5:35:24 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Sherman Logan

“The variable is the character of those who are armed.”

That’s what made me nervous about the people advocating arming all the teachers.


22 posted on 01/08/2014 5:38:27 AM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Yup.

Guns are just a tool, they can be used for good or evil, like any other tool.


23 posted on 01/08/2014 5:45:31 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: SoFloFreeper

I prefer post-baptism parties.


24 posted on 01/08/2014 5:47:58 AM PST by petercooper ("I was for letting people keep their health insurance, before I wasn't". --- Barack Obama)
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To: Gay State Conservative; old and tired
I travel in very sedate,buttoned down,boring circles.

As do I.

Recently went to a Bible study and and afterwards a retired 60ish year school teacher, petite little thing, was talking about her preference in concealed weapons.

25 posted on 01/08/2014 5:52:55 AM PST by Gamecock (Celebrating 20,000 posts of dubious quality.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I’m Irish too - Proud conservative Wild Turkey drinker here. (One of many apparently). So why are you’re focusing on the wrong word? The key word was “asshole”. ;)


26 posted on 01/08/2014 6:18:24 AM PST by old and tired
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To: petercooper
I prefer post-baptism parties.

I prefer post-baptism parties that are not held at 4am in Miami.

27 posted on 01/08/2014 6:28:43 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: SamAdams76

Haitian family. “Pre-baptism party” at 0400 hrs. It probably involved a voodoo ceremony for the kid, preceding its Christening.


28 posted on 01/08/2014 6:31:12 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: SoFloFreeper

[Video] 63 Year Old Grandmother Shoots and Kills 16 Year Old Home Invader Armed With a Shotgun

Jan 7, 2013

http://gunssavelives.net/self-defense/video-63-year-old-grandmother-shoots-and-kills-16-year-old-home-invader-armed-with-a-shotgun/


29 posted on 01/08/2014 6:47:19 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: SamAdams76
It’s like having a graduation party before you actually graduate.

Heh. I suspect that this crowd doesn't often have the opportunity to throw graduation parties.

30 posted on 01/08/2014 6:55:21 AM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

What’s really bad is we let these people vote....


31 posted on 01/08/2014 7:00:04 AM PST by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

We are becoming, or have become, the Jerry Springer show, as a country.

&&&
You are so right.


32 posted on 01/08/2014 7:15:24 AM PST by Bigg Red (Let the lying lips be dumb, which speak insolently against the righteous in pride and contempt.--Ps3)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Didn’t the re-election of Obama give you a clue or hint as to that.


33 posted on 01/08/2014 7:16:55 AM PST by sport
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To: SoFloFreeper
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34 posted on 01/08/2014 7:58:44 AM PST by ontap
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To: SamAdams76
Shouldn’t you actually be baptized first before celebrating

Not if your intent is to get drunk and act a fool!!!

35 posted on 01/08/2014 8:01:32 AM PST by ontap
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To: old and tired
So why are you’re focusing on the wrong word? The key word was “asshole”. ;)

IMO both words are important.One can be drunk without being an a$$hole and one can be an a$$hole without being drunk.However,my 20+ years of experience working in a big city ER qualifies me to assure you that there's a very close,and very important,association between acts of violence and being under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol.

36 posted on 01/08/2014 8:41:23 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Nobody really advocates arming “all the teachers”. I work with teachers and I would trust most of them to be armed and the rest as long as I was also armed. But arming teachers is a self-limiting proposition. The most liberal wouldn’t want to be armed for a variety of reasons like fear of guns or accidentally firing them. Some would oppose them because they are pacifists. Thus most armed teachers would be conservative and would therefore be smart enough to not use them unwisely. You might get the occasional jihadist but other armed teachers would likely be able to prevent that from being too big.


37 posted on 01/08/2014 8:59:29 AM PST by webheart (Watch out for the bots! They will disagree with you!)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
We are becoming, or have become, the Jerry Springer show, as a country.

Yep. We've passed the tipping point. It's their country now. I'm not holding out any hope for a conservative President in 2016. The Jerry Springer class is just going to give us another Obama. They've got the numbers.

I imagine at some point in the near future you'll find me sitting on a lawn chair in my front yard, beer in one hand and a rifle in the other, watching the whole place burn.

It was fun while it lasted...

38 posted on 01/08/2014 9:06:16 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68
I imagine at some point in the near future you'll find me sitting on a lawn chair in my front yard, beer in one hand and a rifle in the other, watching the whole place burn.

It was fun while it lasted...

I think "Back to the Future 2", where Marty returns to a dystopian 1985 ruled by Biff, gives us a glimpse.

39 posted on 01/08/2014 9:16:58 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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