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The Quiet Fury of Robert Gates
Wall Street Journal ^ | January 7, 2013 | Robert M. Gates

Posted on 01/08/2014 4:56:22 AM PST by Timber Rattler

All too often during my 4½ years as secretary of defense, when I found myself sitting yet again at that witness table at yet another congressional hearing, I was tempted to stand up, slam the briefing book shut and quit on the spot. The exit lines were on the tip of my tongue: I may be the secretary of defense, but I am also an American citizen, and there is no son of a bitch in the world who can talk to me like that. I quit. Find somebody else. It was, I am confident, a fantasy widely shared throughout the executive branch.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bobgates; douglaselute; gates; joebiden; katiecouric; obama; robertgates; secdef; thomasdonilon
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Then why didn't he?
1 posted on 01/08/2014 4:56:22 AM PST by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

Notice how he leaves himself open for a position in the upcoming Hillary administration?


2 posted on 01/08/2014 4:59:26 AM PST by Flintlock ( islam is a LIE, mohammed was a CRIMINAL, shira is POISON.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Ugh


3 posted on 01/08/2014 4:59:41 AM PST by stanne
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To: Timber Rattler

Because he knew, and he was right, that if he quit we would end up with worse...and we did.


4 posted on 01/08/2014 5:00:25 AM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: Flintlock

No. He pretty well flayed her as well. Bigtime.


5 posted on 01/08/2014 5:01:38 AM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: Timber Rattler

What a load of CYA bull...


6 posted on 01/08/2014 5:02:32 AM PST by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: Timber Rattler

Apparently, his quiet indignation wasn’t so strongly motivated while he still had his job and didn’t need to hawk a tell-all book.

Doubtless, many of his revelations are about Obama are true (the ones he didn’t recant elsewhere in the book after feeling he might get Arkancided). However, quitting then and there and exposing the revelations real-time would have saved us a second four years of this Tyrant.


7 posted on 01/08/2014 5:03:59 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Timber Rattler

Feigned outrage. That’s what professional politicians do. Try to act like real people with a heart when there is none...


8 posted on 01/08/2014 5:06:03 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Timber Rattler

I read the whole piece and learned Gates is not nearly the jackass I always took him for.


9 posted on 01/08/2014 5:06:20 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Timber Rattler
I don't know why Gates decided to stay on with Obama in the first place. He didn't know anything about Obama and the people who actually control the agenda? Either Gates is as dumb as a rock or he just didn't want to give up his cushy job. Now he just wants to sell a book. I have no sympathy for him.
10 posted on 01/08/2014 5:06:47 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Russ

I believe thanks are in order, not criticism


11 posted on 01/08/2014 5:09:04 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: fatnotlazy

Spot on.


12 posted on 01/08/2014 5:10:41 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: Gaffer

Right on.


13 posted on 01/08/2014 5:12:28 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Timber Rattler

Gates was somebody who had been in government for years, and he also transitioned from one WH to another, so I think he was used to viewing things as the same-old, same-old, with only some personal stylistic differences between presidents.

I suspect it took him awhile - as it took many of us and many in the government, including, I think, Hillary Clinton - to admit that Obama was a controlling, entirely political and self-interested creature, motivated by nothing except what he perceived to be his own political gain and willing to say or do anything to promote it. Even if Gates had disagreed with other WH figures in the past, it was on legitimate grounds and with some awareness of their different responsibilities.

This was an entirely new situation, and I think it took him some time to accept how completely different it was to be treated with contempt, lied to, betrayed, etc. by the WH. It seems that he’s not the only one in government who felt this way.

One gathers from tidbits here and there in the excerpts I have seen that even the odious Hillary Clinton felt this way and was very unhappy with the way that she and everybody, all the way down to the troops, were treated by Obama.

But it’s hard to admit that the occupant of the WH, for whom you work, is a sociopathic megalomaniac surrounded by partisan toadies.


14 posted on 01/08/2014 5:12:55 AM PST by livius
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To: Timber Rattler

2012 would have been a much better date for this book, Bob —the country would have been better off.

He senses the certainty of Hillary’s candidacy and observes the totally undiminished enthusiasm of the MSM for her.

Thus his book.

Don’t get me wrong - I richly welcome this book, but Gates has always been a political survivor and he’s simply laying down a marker and trying to get a good seat on the lifeboat now that he knows the Administration has been hit by a torpedo.


15 posted on 01/08/2014 5:13:46 AM PST by gaijin
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To: Timber Rattler
there is no son of a bitch in the world who can talk to me like that. I quit.

That's funny, I feel that way watching some news programs and when many of the SOB's that we voted in and that we pay, stand in front of TV cameras and talk about the TEA Party and anyone who doesn't agree with them like we are garbage, the enemy, not worthy of life or our God given rights.

They gang up with some in corporate America to threaten us. They intend to use big money to kick the citizens to the curb. But we can't quit and walk away, we're stuck for at least two years at a time and then our only chance is to beat big money and big lobbyist. We do win some and I hope it's much more. E-N-O-U-G-H!

16 posted on 01/08/2014 5:15:59 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Timber Rattler

Sorry, I have no use for your memoirs. You should have stood up as these things were occurring and resigned. By the way tell Petraeus not to bother with his book on this subject either


17 posted on 01/08/2014 5:17:06 AM PST by kushnejz
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To: Timber Rattler

Yes, why didn’t he?


18 posted on 01/08/2014 5:19:20 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Timber Rattler

Trashing Obama and Hillary to sell a book?

Good!

When does Colin Powell come out and share his brilliance again.

Don’t forget that he still claims that he is a Republican.


19 posted on 01/08/2014 5:21:43 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Timber Rattler

sounds like this Robert Gates is actually a human unlike the many demons in DC


20 posted on 01/08/2014 5:26:14 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: livius
I suspect it took him awhile - as it took many of us and many in the government, including, I think, Hillary Clinton - to admit that Obama was a controlling, entirely political and self-interested creature, motivated by nothing except what he perceived to be his own political gain and willing to say or do anything to promote it.

It took a while? What is wrong with people not knowing from the BEGINNING and before the inauguration that this man was a fake and nothing but trouble? I was writing a blog then and documented all of this...(and little good it did and I took up fishing..no one would listen.) he had a postage stamp resume, was Bill Ayers buddy, wouldn't give us a simple birth certificate, wouldn't release his college records...and he is given the most powerful position in the world? Maybe the demise of this country is our "reward" for pure stupidity and for treating an election like it was a sports event and a "social statement"...well we pay the price now. But it didn't take a rocket scientist to see what was happening. And now there is "wonderment and some regret?" Fools all!

21 posted on 01/08/2014 5:34:01 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (...and to the Republic for which it stood.)
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To: fatnotlazy
"I don't know why Gates decided to stay on with Obama in the first place."

"Potomac fever" takes everybody within two months of arrival. Lived it, worked it, and survived among its victims as a "Consiglieri." The first thing to go is the moral compass. The enormity of national influence wielded, even among low level apparatchiks is astounding, intoxicating, and highly addictive. Your perceived worth is measured by who you work for, who you know...how much "juice" you got behind you. Let's not even mention the perks, parties, women, and influence peddlers. Few can walk away from it. Most stay on, even into a retirement that can fetch a six figures income.
22 posted on 01/08/2014 5:34:14 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: livius
> But it’s hard to admit that the occupant of the WH, for whom you work, is a sociopathic megalomaniac

Huh?

The Greek columns victory speech along with the self appointed "Office of the President Elect" schtick made it obvious.

23 posted on 01/08/2014 5:34:40 AM PST by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: Timber Rattler

He didn’t quit because there’s a good chance Obama would replace him with a thug. I’ll come back with a link...


24 posted on 01/08/2014 5:54:29 AM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: SecondAmendment

So, gates, why were you such a quisling that you didn’t quit at the time, speak up at the time and write a book at the time? Weaknness...and ass-covering I’d say.


25 posted on 01/08/2014 5:55:12 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: SecondAmendment
The Greek columns victory speech along with the self appointed "Office of the President Elect" schtick made it obvious.

Leni Riefenstahl would have been proud of the Nuremburg redux set from Triumph of the Will. That had all the alarm bells going off with me.

26 posted on 01/08/2014 5:55:37 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Timber Rattler

“Quiet fury” is complicity.

GAYtes is a traitor and should be hung.


27 posted on 01/08/2014 5:57:10 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Flintlock

He’s NOT thrilled with Hillary either...


28 posted on 01/08/2014 6:03:29 AM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: Timber Rattler

Link headline: Obama Nominates Cop Killer Advocate to Head DOJ Civil Rights Division

This is why he didn’t quit. This is why other good people still stuck in this administration need to stay put...

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/01/08/obama-nominates-racist-cop-killer-defender-debo-adegbile-to-head-doj-civil-rights-division-n1773332

Obama Nominates Cop Killer Advocate to Head DOJ Civil Rights Division


29 posted on 01/08/2014 6:04:55 AM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: Timber Rattler
How about excerpting the part about Hillary basing foreign policy positions upon political considerations?

A focus there might be something that might actually help this country going forward instead of rehashing ancient history.

30 posted on 01/08/2014 6:06:41 AM PST by skeeter
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To: elpadre

Agree! Gates was College President at Texas A&M before W got him to come onboard. He did not then and does not now need book sales for a living.

I wished he had refused to stay on when the Kenyan moved into the WhiteyHut, but maybe he felt he could resist and actually make a difference. With hitlery snuggling up to nobama for her run, his expose’ just might shed enough light to push a few more away from progressives looking for power.


31 posted on 01/08/2014 6:13:39 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Should, woulda, coulda.

Didn’t.

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32 posted on 01/08/2014 6:13:42 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: fatnotlazy
"Now he just wants to sell a book. I have no sympathy for him."

Exactly my thoughts.
The honorable course of action would have been to resign and then tell the nation what was going on in the Obama Regime. I appreciate the after-the-fact report about the phoney president's administration but it's too late in coming. Maybe the country could have avoided another four years of Obama if Gates had spoken up sooner.

33 posted on 01/08/2014 6:22:37 AM PST by StormEye
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To: X-spurt
I wished he had refused to stay on when the Kenyan moved into the WhiteyHut, but maybe he felt he could resist and actually make a difference.

Gates angered me mightily at the time because simultaneously served as a apologist for whatever Obama could come up with and a symbol of how Obama is post-partison ("look, Obama kept Bush's defense guy and he says what Obama is doing is fine so it MUST be good"). I'd have rather had some dem hack trying to sell the White House policies than a guy who gave them actual credibility because he had served more than one administration. Now after he actually helped give Obama wings, he wants to say "Don't blame me, I never agreed with any of it". I'm not yet ready to forget.

34 posted on 01/08/2014 6:31:27 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

That “a while” thing gets me. As a former DCI, Gates knew darn well that anyone who pulled the stunts Obama and his flunkies did in disclosing (or not) Obama’s past would have NEVER gotten cleared to be a CIA employee or contractor. So why was it ok to be President?


35 posted on 01/08/2014 6:32:58 AM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Timber Rattler

Not interested in the what & why Gates did this? I suspect what Gates has said and written is the absolute truth about Obama, Biden & Clinton!!! So....i’ll get the point quickly. Obama & Biden shoud be forced to resign by the Democrat Party. If the Democrat Party cannot get Obama/Biden to resign....then, the Democrat Party should impeach the both of them. They are both traitors and enemies of the state. They have sent American military men & women into battle, in harm’s, without their support. I sincerly hope the next time that Obama/Biden/Clinton goes before our troops they get booed of the stage!!! We....as a nation must be totally insane to sustain this kind of of anti-American leadership and direction. Shame on you Americans!!!

I suspect there are many others that feel as Bob Gates does.....but they did not have the guts, dtermination and honor to tell the truth about these elitist tyrants, Obama, Biden, Clinton, etc. Fact is: the Democrat Party should be destroyed politically come November, 2014!!! Wake up.....America......these eveil people are enemies of our great country!!!

Wiil some patriotic American of influence and political celebrity post a nationwide petition to Impeach Obama and Biden....hope so???


36 posted on 01/08/2014 6:48:38 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!.)
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To: livius
Good post.

Let me accord Gates and Bush the benefit of all doubts and describe them as principled patriots motivated not by ideology but by patriotism and a keen sense of righteousness.

That assessment avoids charging them with being ideologues but it does not excuse them for naïveté. The shoe seems to fit Bush better than Gates. Bush, in my judgment, operated as a Christian determined to fulfill his duty and equally determined to eschew self inflation. His Christian sense of modesty brought him to a point where he failed to fight his corner, failed to impose discipline on his party, misunderstood the real evil inherent in his enemies, and abandoned his party. These missteps and omissions were motivated out of high Christian beliefs but bore decaying fruit.

In the end, his approval ratings were in the tank, his party was on the run, his support in Congress virtually nonexistent, his reputation in the country for decency temporarily destroyed, and, worse, his war aims in limbo. Finally, Bush's reluctance to confront political and electoral realities opened the door to Barack Obama so wide that he was escorted into office with control both houses of Congress, a servile media, and no effective oversight. Small wonder Bush's policies in Iraq and Afghanistan did not survive.

A president who conducts foreign policy must do so in the lights of a realistic domestic policy. Bush simply failed to do this.

Gates professes shock that the president of United States and his Secretary of State, Bitch Clinton, would confess in his presence that their positions on Afghanistan were dictated not by the national interest of the United States but by their own selfish election considerations. Duh?

Gates can hardly claim the excuse of naïveté. Head of the CIA, NSA, Secretary of Defense, himself a congressman, he had been around and he survived in these positions by virtue of his Darwinian survivability in bureaucracies. It is all well and good to wax indignant under your breath, to display your self-righteousness years later in your memoirs, but if you are a man so terribly affected by the prayers of a mother sending her son off to war and you claim never to have forgotten your encounter with her, you act while you still have the power to protect her son.

Gates is telling us in effect that he is shocked because he observes the foreign policy of the United States being run out of the Oval Office as though it were a Chicago precinct. What the hell did he expect? Did he really think that Barack Obama was anything other than an ideologue? A Manchurian Marxist? An opportunist and a mountebank?

Did he have any reason whatsoever to think that Bitch Clinton as Secretary of State would behave in any way more honorably than she did in running a war room whose purpose was to spare her husband impeachment for felonies committed in office by destroying the lives of innocent female victims of her husband's social pathology? Did he expect her to transform herself seamlessly from sluts and nuts to Secretary of State?

John McCain calls Obama fit for office in 2008 and even forbade his followers to use even of his opponent's middle name. Mitt Romney is incapable except for one debate to indict Obama for his really dreadful performance and frightening ideology. Now Gates, years after he surrenders power to do anything about it, professes indignation but indignation spread of oh so evenhandedly among politicians of all stripes.

Gates is not naïve, Gates' problem is that he has no party, no ideology, no matrix upon which to judge malefactors like Obama and Clinton except his own ad hoc sense of righteousness. That simply does not work when the other side is utterly lacking in decency. When will these Rinos confront the reality that they are fighting evil and not playing parlor games?


37 posted on 01/08/2014 6:53:52 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: gaijin

“Thus his book.”

Has Mr. Gates been making the rounds and doing interviews at the usual Book Sell-a-Thon stations lately? (I don’t watch Fox anymore.)


38 posted on 01/08/2014 6:56:56 AM PST by moovova
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To: Timber Rattler

Interesting I suppose but just how many exposes do we need to know that obastard is a real SOB bent on destroying the country and hateful to every traditional institution that holds the nation dear and that he loathes our men in uniform.

Gates may have kept his mouth shut knowing that his successor would only make things worse... and he has. The military is now a full fledged homo loving camp of fairys and toadies bucking for a star that would never get one in a rational world. A once honorable institution has turned to debauchery and is not able to fill its original mission.

Honor, Courage, Commitment.... no longer characteristics for merit in the military. The metrics have changed and we will suffer for this at the hands of our enemies.


39 posted on 01/08/2014 7:01:11 AM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: MestaMachine

Gates offers a glowing appraisal of Clinton, who he says is “smart, idealistic but pragmatic, tough-minded, indefatigable, funny, a very valuable colleague, and a superb representative of the United States all over the world,” but the president comes in for harsher criticism.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/367797/gates-hillary-obama-admitted-they-opposed-surge-political-reasons-alec-torres

Gates is an idiot. If he had integrity, he would have quit. But based on some classified stuff that went on that I knew about, he was a lying, self-serving jerk while SecDef. Now we know he was a lying, self-serving SecDef with ego but no balls.


40 posted on 01/08/2014 7:06:14 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: Sequoyah101
Good Post, sadly.


41 posted on 01/08/2014 7:07:24 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Mr Rogers

Who can you name that wasn’t? And if he was, was overruled by a lying pos sec of state?


42 posted on 01/08/2014 7:13:24 AM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: Timber Rattler

In the article he bashes Bush, Obama, Rats and Repubs about the same. He seems to have gone out of his way NOT to give a political advantage to anyone.


43 posted on 01/08/2014 7:15:07 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: nathanbedford

Super analysis! I couldn’t agree with you more. Thanks for taking the time.


44 posted on 01/08/2014 7:16:00 AM PST by MNGal
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To: nathanbedford

Well stated.


45 posted on 01/08/2014 7:19:18 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Mr Rogers

I am speaking specifically about colin powell who was running his OWN foreign policy parallel to bush...and nothing was ever done about it.


46 posted on 01/08/2014 7:19:25 AM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: fatnotlazy

Gates stayed on, in fact I think that Bush, Cheney and other GOP leaders encouraged him to stay on, out of the fear that AQ would exploit the transition between the two Administrations to launch a major attack or a series of major attacks.

Go back to late 2008 and early 2009 and read the articles on the transition, indicating that it was the most well planned and thorough ever conducted. Gates staying on was part of that ... no one wanted a neophyte Administration confronted with a major terrorist event. Remember that Bush had the expertise of both Cheney and Rumsfeld to draw on following 9-11. Gates was supposed to provide that to Obama.

It can certainly be argued that Gates hung around too long, probably should have left after the 2010 midterms. I wouldn’t be surprised at all that he stayed beyond that in the anticipation that with Republicans running the House of Reps things would change for the better ...


47 posted on 01/08/2014 7:27:30 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: PowderMonkey
You bring up an excellent point. I think Gates is a self serving ass but power is addictive. It is not just the big things but the little things also. People holding the door open, best seats at restaurants etc. It all adds up.
Small story. My wife and I want to a conference in Nashville. Whole thing on expense account. We stayed at the best hotel, valet parking, fine rental etc. You very quickly get used to people sucking up to you and it is tough to not get used to it or start to really like the attention.
It is easy to criticize unless you have been there.
48 posted on 01/08/2014 7:59:44 AM PST by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: nathanbedford
Great post. We cannot “turn the other cheek” to evil.
Christians always forget Jesus in the temple. Not much cheek turning there. In the last decade I have noticed how little that story is talked about. In the old days of the Chruch they liked to trot out that one. It was more if you don't behave God will kick your butt. Of course nuns will do that to you.
49 posted on 01/08/2014 8:13:07 AM PST by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: nathanbedford

I agree with you on Bush...I think it was his very decency, or at any rate, his idea of how a decent man should act, that did him in.

One of the problems with having a weak or self-effacing leader is that the people who look to him for leadership are left in the lurch and unprotected. The GOP, with its huge RINO contingent (and Bush really wasn’t a RINO, despite some of his policies particularly later on as he tried to win favor from the left), was busy trying to prove to the world during the campaign that they were as much Bush-haters as everybody else, because the media had done such a fantastic job at demonizing the inoffensive Bush precisely because they knew that he was a little more conservative. I think this extended to the GOP candidates as well; they were running against Bush, and also seem to accept Obama as a foregone conclusion to such an extent that they didn’t even oppose him and spent most of their time shooting at each other.

If there had been a genuine Republican party, as you say, with genuine positions independent of Bush’s success or not in carrying them out, the weaker members might have had a rallying point and some ideological identity and way of fighting back. But the GOP didn’t offer this.

So when the left came up with a candidate who was, most importantly of all, black, and second most important, a complete unknown with an obscure past and a chameleon-like personality to whom anything could be attributed, the GOP and all its weak-sister members (such as Gates) really didn’t know what to do.

I see Gates as going to work day after day wondering if this was all a nightmare and he’d wake up if he stuck it out long enough. But instead Obama’s viciousness just unleashed even more viciousness from everybody to his empowered apparatchiks in the WH to the Dem members of Congress who held these “hearings” which were mainly meant to indict Bush for his performance, even though he was no longer in office.

I absolutely agree that Gates should have quit earlier and he should have come clean earlier, but I think he was probably somewhat afraid and, as you point out, completely unsupported by others in the party. I hope his book is only the first of many tell-alls by people who have survived their encounter with the Obama government.


50 posted on 01/08/2014 8:17:12 AM PST by livius
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