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The Worst Defeat for the United States Since 9/11
Townhall.com ^ | January 8, 2014 | John Ransom

Posted on 01/08/2014 6:17:31 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: frog in a pot

I was always waiting to head north, but those orders never came.


21 posted on 01/08/2014 7:23:13 AM PST by onedoug
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To: dmz

You raise many important questions. Each of the answers will involve a concept that includes our continuing presence and some degree of restructuring, just as was required in Japan and Germany after WWII. Otherwise, as we can see today in Anbar province, we almost certainly will be unable to effectively correct the problem.

You and I no doubt agree that we should never sacrifice American lives piecemeal for no more than a short-term and obviously incomplete solution and then expect the problem to correct itself.


22 posted on 01/08/2014 7:26:56 AM PST by frog in a pot ("To each according to his need..." -from a guy who never had a real job and couldn't feed his family)
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To: Kaslin

If this latest deliberate action with Fallujah and Ramadi were an aberration with this administration, we could call it stupid. Sadly, the motive behind this destruction of our national security interests is consistent with everything else Obummer is doing. It conforms perfectly to a much, much more sinister and deliberate agenda. Yet, this “in your face” treason is depressingly dismissed with disingenuous terms like stupid or ignorant. These euphemisms only provide a cheap excuse for not calling the acts treason and criminal. Even if no one wants to take any action against this WH traitor, we need to be honest and call him and his actions what they really are.


23 posted on 01/08/2014 7:29:08 AM PST by iontheball
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To: Don Corleone

Yep.


24 posted on 01/08/2014 7:32:12 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto; rdcbn; Kaslin
It’s just incomprehensible to Americans that they twice elected a President who is working for Al-Qaeda

Al-CIAda is a Western operation. Saudi intel works for the CIA. Well, really it works for the masters of the CIA, the US/UK financial elites. This is why the Bush family and the Saudis are such great friends, because the Bush family is a family that works for the masters.
25 posted on 01/08/2014 7:33:34 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: onedoug
... but those orders never came.

Perhaps for the better, and certainly for the better in your case.

For those that may not know, we did what we could in VN over the years at great cost and with the always present potential of igniting a much wider conflict. When it appeared SVN was secure, we relied on the accords.

Thereafter, our intention was to continue to at least remotely support SVN, particularly in the face of any breach of the accords but the leftists in our government, of course, prevented that.

26 posted on 01/08/2014 7:53:48 AM PST by frog in a pot ("To each according to his need..." -from a guy who never had a real job and couldn't feed his family)
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To: frog in a pot

I was still ready. But if one will not go after communists, they will certainly sweep in on all one knew and loved.

Just look at us today.


27 posted on 01/08/2014 8:05:15 AM PST by onedoug
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...a strategic surrender of the entire U.S. foreign policy conception for the last 50 years.

I'm calling BS on that assertion. 50 years ago, our foreign policy conception was containment of the Soviet Union, period. What's more since that policy became moot with our victory in the Cold War, the U.S. was on the same side as Al Qaeda in the Balkans in the 1990's giving Sunni Islamists an airforce first in Bosnia then in Kosovo (and still supports the KLA -- AQ's Albanian arm -- in the theft of Kosovo from Serbia) and in central Asia, supporting the Chechens diplomatically. It's only for the past 12 year that the U.S. has actually had a half-hearted anti-Al Qaeda policy thanks to their ingratitude expressed in the 9/11 attacks.

28 posted on 01/08/2014 9:30:51 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: dmz

Sarcasm, but it’s what I’m hearing from a few talking heads. Obviously, neither they nor their children will be going, and it’s all on the national credit card, so why not?


29 posted on 01/08/2014 10:05:06 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

Missed the sarcasm. My bad.


30 posted on 01/08/2014 10:16:55 AM PST by dmz
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To: Kaslin
[Art.] “....these guys just threw it all away.”

Exactamundo-bump.

"These guys" are Communists and they hate us, is why.

31 posted on 01/08/2014 2:06:36 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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Read later


32 posted on 01/10/2014 11:34:32 PM PST by CovenBuster (Bustin' up liberal covens from coast to coast)
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