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Insane Clown Posse sues FBI for labeling 'Juggalo' fans a gang
CNN ^ | 1/8/14 | Alan Duke,

Posted on 01/08/2014 8:24:49 PM PST by Rebelbase

Los Angeles (CNN) Insane Clown Posse and four fans are suing the FBI for designating the rap duo's followers as gang members.

The gang designation violates fan's constitutional rights, including free speech, freedom of association and the right to due process, the complaint argues.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fbi; gangs; insaneclownposse; juggalo
I'm siding with the clowns on this one.
1 posted on 01/08/2014 8:24:49 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase
I'm siding with the clowns on this one.

You'll need to be more specific so we know WHICH clowns you're supporting...

2 posted on 01/08/2014 8:26:58 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Rebelbase

“Insane Clown Posse”

The Obama administration is suing the FBI?


3 posted on 01/08/2014 8:27:12 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Rebelbase

Be down wit’ da Clown, baby! ;)


4 posted on 01/08/2014 8:28:00 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Rebelbase

The FBI needs to be sued for calling H0lder and Bammy, “Boss”.


5 posted on 01/08/2014 8:28:57 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Rebelbase

ICP fans are usually big time 2nd Amendment supporters lots of them legally own fully automatic weapons and get together for some target practice and really loud music!


6 posted on 01/08/2014 8:34:12 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Rebelbase

Juggalos!!!!


7 posted on 01/08/2014 8:34:36 PM PST by windcliff
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To: Rebelbase
I'm siding with the clowns on this one.

I do too. While there have been a number of violent crimes committed by people who call themselves "Juggalos" (in fact, whenever I read of someone being attacked with a hatchet, I wonder if the perps were ICP fans) referring to this entire subculture as a gang is ridiculous.

And FWIW, I think Juggalos are some of the most retarded white people alive.

8 posted on 01/08/2014 8:36:14 PM PST by Drew68
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To: windcliff

Wasn’t that a song by David Lee Roth, “Just A Juggalo” ?


9 posted on 01/08/2014 8:43:31 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Frank_2001

word yo.


10 posted on 01/08/2014 9:04:38 PM PST by StoneWall Brigade
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To: Rebelbase
F'ing Magnets, how do they work??
11 posted on 01/08/2014 9:05:17 PM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Rebelbase

Oh yeah...

I give this an 8 on the honking hoot scale..

12 posted on 01/08/2014 9:10:23 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: kingu

13 posted on 01/08/2014 9:14:48 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

If you can get past the f’ing, it’s an awesome song.


14 posted on 01/08/2014 9:24:55 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Rebelbase


15 posted on 01/08/2014 9:45:43 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Rebelbase
Juggalos are no more gang members than Deadheads were, or Beatles fans, for that matter...

Sheesh!!

Anything but pursue real, (dangerous), criminals...

16 posted on 01/08/2014 10:00:26 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Although I agree with you that Juggalos are not gang members I would not equate them to Deadheads Or Beatles fans. Juggalos are a little more rambunctious then Deadheads and a lot more rambunctious then Beatles fans.


17 posted on 01/08/2014 10:08:22 PM PST by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: Smokin' Joe
A definition of Juggalo in their own words.

Warning to the squeamish: the F word is the least of it.

ICP - What is a Juggalo (with lyrics)

18 posted on 01/08/2014 10:08:50 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Rebelbase

Obama and his regime are suing the FBI?


19 posted on 01/08/2014 11:09:45 PM PST by funfan
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To: kingu

And a winner at post #2...


20 posted on 01/09/2014 12:11:52 AM PST by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms in Dixie!)
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To: dragnet2

Are they like a bizarre version of the Masons, with vows, rituals, secrets and never ending tests to prove their loyalty? That is the impression I get seeing those meticulously painted clown faces that were never meant to be funny. I get the feeling that most of these members never completely come out of their selected charactersm if they don’t absolutely have to. Well, different strokes, right? A camardarie is found in many settings. Some men belong to the Moose Lodge or the Elks.


21 posted on 01/09/2014 12:45:52 AM PST by lee martell
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To: dragnet2
We gotta play "caption this photo" on this one!

"Just because we look like a couple of extras from "The Warriors", does NOT mean we're a gang!"

22 posted on 01/09/2014 1:14:20 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Rebelbase
Juggalove - The Juggalo Dating Site
23 posted on 01/09/2014 1:15:58 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: BBell
Let me explain. Any large group of people can be dangerous, they stampede.

The Beatles were coming along in an era when traditional morals dominated (Elvis' gyrations were left out of the shot on Ed Sullivan) and were outrageous for the day. Almost a decade later, the hippie movement had made large inroads, and deadheads were prime candidates for getting their vehicle searched for pot, among other drugs (Johnny Carson, Laugh In were entertainment, replete with innuendo). Fast forward twenty years (plus) and society has changed, hardened (more), and become much more crudely sexual and abusive, despite claiming greater sensitivity (MTV and all the beeping in television shows--if they even bother).

What passes for music is a product of its time, a reflection of the edges and boundaries of its time and ICP is no exception, nor is their following so different. Youth like 'edgy', as a generalization, but the edge has moved.

It takes progressively more outrageous behaviour to be outrageous, and somehow that has become part of a youth culture meme, where everyone wants to be different (just like everyone else). Tattoos, piercings, and other manifestations abound, and behind all that, there are kids searching for a semblance of the family they didn't get at home, or a unique identity--their place in the world (just part of growing up). While the search for 'family' isn't a requirement in this neotribalism, it is a common theme.

I pray, personally, the pendulum of youthful rebellion has finally covered enough arc that there will be ensuing generations who rebel against the behaviour of their predecessors by being more conservative in their behaviour, but the war is a spiritual one.

All three groups had their commonalities, in distinctive slang, in acceptable behaviour, and even in dress, within each group. That didn't make any of them "gangs", but did make them cultural rallying points, and therein lies the similarity.

24 posted on 01/09/2014 3:11:25 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Rebelbase

“Los Angeles (CNN) Insane Clown Posse and four fans are suing the FBI for designating the rap duo’s followers as gang members.”

How very 1950s-ish of the FBI. Are they also targeting Sinatra and Everly Brothers fans as well?

Passingly know of the ICP and they like their weed but I did not know that their following were criminal masterminds worthy of Federal persecution.


25 posted on 01/09/2014 5:10:12 AM PST by FAA
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To: Rebelbase

if the clown shoe fits......


26 posted on 01/09/2014 5:52:52 AM PST by 12th_Monkey (In an alternate universe Obama still dips ice cream)
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To: dragnet2

Warriors, come out to play a yay....


27 posted on 01/09/2014 6:40:08 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Rebelbase

The impression I get is that these folks are like the KISS army but with extra chromosomes.

Freegards


28 posted on 01/09/2014 6:45:00 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: Rebelbase
Too many gangs are composed of brown kids from the 'hood and I think the FBI wants there to be a gang composed largely of white kids from the 'burbs. You know, to even things out a bit.

Probably Holder's idea.

29 posted on 01/09/2014 6:46:01 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Rebelbase

I did a search to see what the deal is, and the reason for the FBI harassment came right up. ICP is a white hip-hop group.


30 posted on 01/09/2014 7:15:55 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Drew68
Too many gangs are composed of brown kids from the 'hood and I think the FBI wants there to be a gang composed largely of white kids from the 'burbs. You know, to even things out a bit.


31 posted on 01/09/2014 7:24:21 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: PetroniusMaximus

No, its not.


32 posted on 01/13/2014 9:24:51 PM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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