Skip to comments.Insane Clown Posse sues FBI for labeling 'Juggalo' fans a gang
Posted on 01/08/2014 8:24:49 PM PST by Rebelbase
Los Angeles (CNN) Insane Clown Posse and four fans are suing the FBI for designating the rap duo's followers as gang members.
The gang designation violates fan's constitutional rights, including free speech, freedom of association and the right to due process, the complaint argues.
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You'll need to be more specific so we know WHICH clowns you're supporting...
Be down wit’ da Clown, baby! ;)
The FBI needs to be sued for calling H0lder and Bammy, “Boss”.
ICP fans are usually big time 2nd Amendment supporters lots of them legally own fully automatic weapons and get together for some target practice and really loud music!
I do too. While there have been a number of violent crimes committed by people who call themselves "Juggalos" (in fact, whenever I read of someone being attacked with a hatchet, I wonder if the perps were ICP fans) referring to this entire subculture as a gang is ridiculous.
And FWIW, I think Juggalos are some of the most retarded white people alive.
Wasn’t that a song by David Lee Roth, “Just A Juggalo” ?
I give this an 8 on the honking hoot scale..
If you can get past the f’ing, it’s an awesome song.
Anything but pursue real, (dangerous), criminals...
Although I agree with you that Juggalos are not gang members I would not equate them to Deadheads Or Beatles fans. Juggalos are a little more rambunctious then Deadheads and a lot more rambunctious then Beatles fans.
Warning to the squeamish: the F word is the least of it.
Obama and his regime are suing the FBI?
And a winner at post #2...
Are they like a bizarre version of the Masons, with vows, rituals, secrets and never ending tests to prove their loyalty? That is the impression I get seeing those meticulously painted clown faces that were never meant to be funny. I get the feeling that most of these members never completely come out of their selected charactersm if they don’t absolutely have to. Well, different strokes, right? A camardarie is found in many settings. Some men belong to the Moose Lodge or the Elks.
"Just because we look like a couple of extras from "The Warriors", does NOT mean we're a gang!"
The Beatles were coming along in an era when traditional morals dominated (Elvis' gyrations were left out of the shot on Ed Sullivan) and were outrageous for the day. Almost a decade later, the hippie movement had made large inroads, and deadheads were prime candidates for getting their vehicle searched for pot, among other drugs (Johnny Carson, Laugh In were entertainment, replete with innuendo). Fast forward twenty years (plus) and society has changed, hardened (more), and become much more crudely sexual and abusive, despite claiming greater sensitivity (MTV and all the beeping in television shows--if they even bother).
What passes for music is a product of its time, a reflection of the edges and boundaries of its time and ICP is no exception, nor is their following so different. Youth like 'edgy', as a generalization, but the edge has moved.
It takes progressively more outrageous behaviour to be outrageous, and somehow that has become part of a youth culture meme, where everyone wants to be different (just like everyone else). Tattoos, piercings, and other manifestations abound, and behind all that, there are kids searching for a semblance of the family they didn't get at home, or a unique identity--their place in the world (just part of growing up). While the search for 'family' isn't a requirement in this neotribalism, it is a common theme.
I pray, personally, the pendulum of youthful rebellion has finally covered enough arc that there will be ensuing generations who rebel against the behaviour of their predecessors by being more conservative in their behaviour, but the war is a spiritual one.
All three groups had their commonalities, in distinctive slang, in acceptable behaviour, and even in dress, within each group. That didn't make any of them "gangs", but did make them cultural rallying points, and therein lies the similarity.
“Los Angeles (CNN) Insane Clown Posse and four fans are suing the FBI for designating the rap duo’s followers as gang members.”
How very 1950s-ish of the FBI. Are they also targeting Sinatra and Everly Brothers fans as well?
Passingly know of the ICP and they like their weed but I did not know that their following were criminal masterminds worthy of Federal persecution.
if the clown shoe fits......
Warriors, come out to play a yay....
The impression I get is that these folks are like the KISS army but with extra chromosomes.
Probably Holder's idea.
I did a search to see what the deal is, and the reason for the FBI harassment came right up. ICP is a white hip-hop group.
No, its not.