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MSNBC Guest Columnists Hint They'd Be Cool with Raising 'Age of Criminal Responsibility' to Say 25?
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Posted on 01/08/2014 9:21:15 PM PST by chessplayer

"The New York State Legislature needs to Raise the Age of criminal responsibility, and they need to do it this year," demands the subheadline on MSNBC.com's landing page this afternoon for a story headlined, "Stop charging kids as adults." The column, co-authored by former NAACP president Ben Jealous and actress Rosario Dawson, promotes a push by the Citizens Committee for Children of New York [CCCNY] to change Empire State law so that minors aged 16 years old cannot be charged as adults.

Jealous and Dawson don't disclose to what age they believe the age of criminal responsibility should be raised, but they do include a reference to mental maturity which suggests they might be happy with it falling somewhere in the mid-20s:


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: adult; adults; age; benjealous; cccny; columnists; crime; criminal; dawson; guest; jealous; minor; minors; msnbc; raising; responsibility; rosariodawson
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So lets see. Libs insist 10 year olds are mature enough to make decisions regarding sex, but a 24 year old shouldn't be charged if they murder someone because they are still mentally immature.
1 posted on 01/08/2014 9:21:15 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

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2 posted on 01/08/2014 9:23:37 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: chessplayer

Unicorn Skittles!


3 posted on 01/08/2014 9:24:48 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: chessplayer

They’re fine with a whole nation of “Alex and his droogs” so long as they themselves aren’t the victims. “What’s the chastota, Kenny-boy?”


4 posted on 01/08/2014 9:25:38 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: chessplayer

I’d be cool with lowering it to about 15.


5 posted on 01/08/2014 9:27:57 PM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: chessplayer

Lower it to 12!


6 posted on 01/08/2014 9:28:10 PM PST by dalereed
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To: chessplayer
So lets see. Libs insist 10 year olds are mature enough to make decisions regarding sex, but a 24 year old shouldn't be charged if they murder someone because they are still mentally immature.

Shyeah, pretty much...

7 posted on 01/08/2014 9:28:50 PM PST by uncitizen (Obama said 'period', but he meant 'asterisk'.)
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To: chessplayer
"Stop charging kids as adults."

Ah...no. How about stop treating young adults as children. In fact, stop the whole nanny-state treat everyone as children.

Let there be personal accountability and responsibility for all, because with that comes liberty and freedom. When someone else (eg. big government) tries to absolve you of responsibility and accountability, well, then they must control your behavior too. Then we get fascism and tyranny.

8 posted on 01/08/2014 9:29:29 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: chessplayer

Okay. And raise the voting age to 30.


9 posted on 01/08/2014 9:34:39 PM PST by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms in Dixie!)
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To: chessplayer

And if whites were disproportionately responsible for those crimes

What would color blind Jealous think then?


10 posted on 01/08/2014 9:35:18 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat ("Four dead in Benghazi")
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To: chessplayer

If they aren’t responsible till they’re 25, then maybe they shouldn’t be allowed to drink alcohol, smoke, enter contracts, get married, etc. till they are 25.


11 posted on 01/08/2014 9:35:38 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: chessplayer

I would be OK with it if we raised the age to vote to 30. That would eliminate the Democrat party. Hell, 25 would be sufficient.


12 posted on 01/08/2014 9:36:24 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: chessplayer

All ‘Rats (emotional thinkers) should be held accountable and sent to Cuba, to enjoy the fruits of their labors.


13 posted on 01/08/2014 9:37:44 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: dalereed

Lower it to 12!


And make scholastic truancy a capital offence.....


14 posted on 01/08/2014 9:38:40 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ?....... Enforce the Bill of Rights................................ It's the LAW !!!)
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To: chessplayer

” but a 24 year old shouldn’t be charged if they murder someone because they are still mentally immature.”

Hell, in NYC their mentally immature well int their sixties...


15 posted on 01/08/2014 9:39:26 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: All

Hell, go for 55 ... might save the pRes from impEachment.


16 posted on 01/08/2014 9:39:59 PM PST by Peter ODonnell (It wasn't this cold before global warming)
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To: chessplayer

Huh. Leftists advocate War on Women by young criminals.
Young male predators free to prey on the women on NYC!

This must be why the Leftists support gun free zones, pot and free birth control so young male predators can victimize women and recieve no jail time. Oh the anarchy!


17 posted on 01/08/2014 9:40:10 PM PST by RginTN
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To: chessplayer

Your comment is an almost perfect paraphrase of what I was going to say.

Why is this an issue? Just to change a bunch of arbitrary stuff that happens to regulate or affect large, large componenets of the social order....just to do it?


18 posted on 01/08/2014 9:42:43 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: chessplayer
then no drivers license or drinking or smoking till 25 either...
19 posted on 01/08/2014 9:50:11 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: chessplayer

Typical left wing mantra that seeks to absolve individuals of accountability for their actions. The NAACP for years has moaned that there are too many young black men in jail and that they are merely “victims” of their oppressive social environment. Funny thing is that these men have been through the system many times and have caused much mayhem before they are locked up. If they were allowed to remain free in their communities, minority groups would be screaming for more protection as crime would skyrocket.Well New york City is about to de facto implement the progressive fantasies the liberals want. Higher taxes, the elimination of “stop and frisk”, More “resources for education” and less discipline in public schools. Sadly most rational people know how this will turn out.


20 posted on 01/08/2014 9:54:32 PM PST by allendale
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Why is this an issue? Just to change a bunch of arbitrary stuff that happens to regulate or affect large, large componenets of the social order....just to do it?


They consider the population to be nothing but lab rats to conduct their experiments on.


21 posted on 01/08/2014 10:00:34 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: Jim from C-Town
I would be OK with it if we raised the age to vote to 30. That would eliminate the Democrat party.

The rats would still find a way to rig and steal elections.

22 posted on 01/08/2014 10:10:38 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: chessplayer
WTF!

I just assumed when I started reading the headline they were going to push to LOWER the age of responsibility!

Good grief! it's bad enough now! imagine the carnage if we gave all these thugs a pass until 25! society would disintegrate

23 posted on 01/08/2014 10:19:43 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: chessplayer

Just make it the same as the voting age. And also make the requirements for voting be the same as the requirements for buying a gun. (Either complete background check for both, or no ID necessary for either, or anywhere in between.)


24 posted on 01/08/2014 10:20:15 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: chessplayer

Yep

Leftists are wacko


25 posted on 01/08/2014 10:59:37 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: chessplayer

with increased crime comes the inevitable call for more police protection...
which means higher taxes...
and bigger govt.

in other words, increasing crime is in the best interest of those that want big govt...


26 posted on 01/08/2014 11:10:51 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: chessplayer

So lets see. Libs insist 10 year olds are mature enough to make decisions regarding sex, but a 24 year old shouldn’t be charged if they murder someone because they are still mentally immature.
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Excellent comment!

Since Obamacare considers adults up to 26 to be treated as “kids” and remain on their parents’ insurance, I believe they are too ‘mentally immature’ to be given voting rights.

So, if someone under 26 commits a major felony, they should just be tossed in juvie detention until 26 and then moved into an ‘adult’ prison to serve out the rest of the sentence? .....Also, what about military service? Are they saying that the vast majority of our volunteer military are ‘mentally immature’?


27 posted on 01/09/2014 12:07:35 AM PST by octex
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To: chessplayer

bookmark


28 posted on 01/09/2014 12:10:51 AM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

“What would color blind Jealous think then?”

Jealous is just taking a hard look at Black demographics and comes to the realization that he will, in the not too distant future, run out of “sperm donors” unless something is done to keep them out of prison. Now New York’s gun control measures make more sense. We can’t have people Blacks assault offing them before they go to court to be tried as “minors.”


29 posted on 01/09/2014 12:17:06 AM PST by vette6387
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To: octex

Don’t forget... those 25 year olds should need parental consent for their abortions too in many states, if the libs want to go down this road.


30 posted on 01/09/2014 1:10:55 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: chessplayer
So lets see. Libs insist 10 year olds are mature enough to make decisions regarding sex, but a 24 year old shouldn't be charged if they murder someone because they are still mentally immature.

Bingo, post of the day.

31 posted on 01/09/2014 1:31:22 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: chessplayer

what??????? as if this country isn’t messed up enough


32 posted on 01/09/2014 1:33:15 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Paladin2

wait a minute yer sayin libs think with their nads? n’
their brains are tainted wif emotion...and that’s why they git it all wrong? by god i think you got something there..!


33 posted on 01/09/2014 1:55:01 AM PST by jimsin
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Yeah, cut ‘em off from firearms and votin’.


34 posted on 01/09/2014 2:03:44 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: chessplayer

The nice thing about concealed carry is that it sets the Age of Criminal Responsibility at whatever age someone needs to be to threaten death or serious bodily harm. If government is unwilling to do its job, America needs more concealed carry, as Detroit’s new police chief, James Craig, observed.


35 posted on 01/09/2014 2:17:11 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: chessplayer

These are the kinds of people that should disappear...


36 posted on 01/09/2014 2:20:01 AM PST by maddog55
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To: chessplayer

So lets see. Libs insist 10 year olds are mature enough to make decisions regarding sex, but a 24 year old shouldn’t be charged if they murder someone because they are still mentally immature.


Let’s raise the voting age too then. And if they re-instate the draft then the entry age will be 25. Of course then we will have to examine under-age sex and marriage.

Oh, so many things to mess with the Libs minds over with this one.


37 posted on 01/09/2014 2:25:25 AM PST by The Working Man
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To: chessplayer

Yes, they are that stupid.


38 posted on 01/09/2014 2:26:52 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: chessplayer

24 year olds circa 1944.

24 year old circa 2014

39 posted on 01/09/2014 3:08:41 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: All

this is the only way they can deal with the disproportionate prison population.. Move the bar lower for young black men until they get a lifetime get out of jail free card.


40 posted on 01/09/2014 3:13:38 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: chessplayer

The demodummies are themselves “mentally immature”.

Just wait till their house gets burglarized or they get mugged or become a victim of the “knockout” game, my guess is they will have mind changes pending.


41 posted on 01/09/2014 3:34:28 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: chessplayer

Here is where we start “hinting” that 10 years old would be better. Then we could come together and compromise on the age at present. If you start with the legal age as a premise, the any compromise with the left always moves it in their direction, never yours. So if they say 25, you agree to discussion and suggest ten. We are always compromising with status quo against left standards...the result always moves left. “Gun control”. Ok I’ll listen to you but I believe we should have “No gun control.” “Minimum wage $15”....”no, the minimum wage should be $3”. Use their premise to set your premise.


42 posted on 01/09/2014 4:37:51 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Kozak
Okay. And raise the voting age to 30.

Whew... 30? I'm with you on raising the voting age, but I was thinking 40. Grandfather in the existing "legal" voters, and set the new age to 40. It'll take 22 years, but it would cut out a lot of the BS pandering to youth we see today.

43 posted on 01/09/2014 4:57:22 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: chessplayer

Fine. Then change the minimum age to enlist, buy guns, drive a car, operate a big rig, operate commercial vehicles, operate heavy machinery, buy marijuana, travel by airline must be championed, marriage can only lawfully take place between those 25 and older, etc.

Neck, make high school last four more years and require vote.

Idiots.


44 posted on 01/09/2014 5:03:55 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: chessplayer

Somebody should cut their cables.


45 posted on 01/09/2014 5:09:42 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: chessplayer

Those sad creatures all seem to be in the grip of Zimbabwe Syndrome - a species of the Stockholm genus, characterized by ceaseless thug apologia, evincing a pathological melanin envy.


46 posted on 01/09/2014 5:28:35 AM PST by tomkat (you'll know when it's time)
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To: babygene

A person can defend their country when they are 18. They can be trusted to vote at 18.
But they can stay on their parents health plans until they are 26.
stupid people are in the country. They all should be spayed or neutered.


47 posted on 01/09/2014 5:42:22 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Vendome

If MSNBC says something alone in the forest, is it still stupid?


48 posted on 01/09/2014 5:45:09 AM PST by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: chessplayer
The New York State Legislature needs to Raise the Age of criminal responsibility, and they need to do it this year," demands...

so they are cool with raising the voting age to 25?

49 posted on 01/09/2014 6:32:23 AM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: central_va

Nothing better points the direction of our future than your post.
Even a cursory comparison between the Readers Digest of that day and now will illustrate your point perfectly.


50 posted on 01/09/2014 6:36:34 AM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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