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CNN's Crowley: Why Would the Out-of-Work Vote Republican? (Why Would Anyone Vote DemocRat?)
Townhall.com ^ | January 9, 2014 | Larry Elder

Posted on 01/09/2014 5:35:21 AM PST by Kaslin

CNN's Candy Crowley seems absolutely, positively astonished that Republicans could oppose raising the minimum wage and extending unemployment benefits.

To her Republican guest, Crowley asked this "question": "If I am an unemployed American ... or if I am a minimum wage worker and I see Republicans who say, 'You know what? It's artificial, it messes with the marketplace, it might mean some teens can't get into the job market,' why would I become a Republican?"

Crowley's "question" implies that raising minimum wages and extending unemployment benefits for the out-of-work are clearly positive no-brainers. After all, a recent Gallup poll found 76 percent of Americans support an increase, as do 58 percent of Republicans.

First, the minimum wage. Economist and Princeton professor Alan Krueger served as the chair of President Obama's Council of Economic Advisers. His famous Card-Krueger study is by far the most widely cited study in the last 20 years on the effect of minimum wage increases. Krueger and colleague David Card concluded that -- surprise, surprise -- an increase in minimum wage in New Jersey resulted in an increase

in employment, not a decline as anti-minimum wage foes predicted. Excited minimum wage advocates channeled Dr. Frankenstein: "It's alive! It's alive!"

But while the Card-Krueger study is the most widely cited; it is also one of the most widely restudied. Upon examination by peers, the study fails to hold up. In fact, it has been so broadly and credibly attacked, one wonders why so many still cite it.

The conservative think tank Heritage Foundation wrote "Liberals Laud Alan Krueger's Fatally Flawed Minimum Wage Study." Heritage said: "Subsequent reviews of the study showed fatal flaws that undermined its findings. In 1996, a review of the study by the Employment Policies Institute found that the data sets Krueger and Card used were so badly flawed that 'no credible conclusions can be drawn from the report.' Specifically, the study found, 'the data set used in the New Jersey study bears no relation to numbers drawn from payroll records of the restaurants the New Jersey study claims to cover. ...

"When David Neumark and William Wascher re-evaluated the study, they found that data collected using (actual payroll) records lead to the opposite conclusion. ...: 'Estimates based on the payroll data ... suggest that the New Jersey minimum wage increase led to a 4.6 percent decrease in employment in New Jersey relative to the Pennsylvania control group.' In other words, the New Jersey/Pennsylvania case study supports the basic economic notion that increasing the cost of hiring a worker will generally lead to fewer workers hired."

Economist Neumark, whom I recently interviewed on my radio show, examined the last 20 years of minimum wage research, over 100 papers. He said that "two-thirds" of the studies "show actual harm."

Second, unemployment benefits. Is it cruel not to extend them? Well, what if research shows that extending benefits simply prolongs the job search? What if studies show most unemployed people wait until their benefits are about to run out before they intensify their job search?

Recall professor and Obama economist Alan Krueger. Wrong on the minimum wage, he got it right on unemployment benefits. In 2008, he co-authored a study on unemployment benefits. Does extending them affect the initiative of those who are out of work?

Krueger said yes: "We find that time allocated to job search is inversely related to the maximum weekly benefit amount for (unemployment insurance) eligible workers. ... We also find that job search increases sharply in the weeks prior to benefit exhaustion." In short, Krueger found that the more generous the benefit, the longer the out-of-work remain out of work.

How about Lawrence Summers, former Treasury secretary under Bill Clinton and former Obama economics adviser? In 1999 he said: "(One) way government assistance programs contribute to long-term unemployment is by providing an incentive, and the means, not to work. ... Unemployment insurance and other social assistance programs (cause) an unemployed person to remain unemployed longer."

How about Larry Katz, the chief economist at the Labor Department during the Clinton administration? He argued that extending unemployment compensation benefits decreases the incentive to get out and look for a job. Workers, he insisted, are almost three times more successful in finding jobs when benefits are just about to run out.

Crowley wonders why an unemployed or minimum-wage worker would vote Republican. Well, jobs, for starters. The worst economic recovery in 80 years has given us millions of discouraged, dropped-out workers. The labor force participation rate -- the percent of American civilians 16 years and older, either working or actively looking for work -- has fallen from 66 percent in 2008 to 63 percent today, the lowest in more than 35 years. Add in the workers who simply gave up, and the current 7 percent unemployment rate rises to nearly 10 percent.

This explains why an unemployed or underemployed worker might, just might, think GOP. Jobs, jobs, jobs.


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1 posted on 01/09/2014 5:35:21 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

So we now know the Democrats road map to winning - make as many people unemployed as possible.


2 posted on 01/09/2014 5:37:03 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I do not doubt that our climate changes. I only doubt that anything man does has any effect.)
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To: Kaslin

She is a dork


3 posted on 01/09/2014 5:37:39 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Kaslin

Why would anybody who wants a job vote Democrat?


4 posted on 01/09/2014 5:37:43 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Serfs.


5 posted on 01/09/2014 5:38:49 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Kaslin

Actually I know of several people (some in my own family) who are chronically unemployed/on welfare but still vote Republican because social issues like gun control/abortion etc are more important to them than economic issues.


6 posted on 01/09/2014 5:39:28 AM PST by apillar
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To: Kaslin

Wasn’t Crowley Barry Soetoro’s debate coach back in 2012?


7 posted on 01/09/2014 5:42:30 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If you like your ObamaCare, you can keep your ObamaCare. I'll pass. PERIOD!)
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To: Kaslin

It’s a good thing no one’s watching CNN. LOL.


8 posted on 01/09/2014 5:43:48 AM PST by jersey117
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To: apillar
Actually I know of several people (some in my own family) who are chronically unemployed/on welfare but still vote Republican because social issues like gun control/abortion etc are more important to them than economic issues.

I don't want to put words in your mouth, but in context, your post above would indicate that your family members are voting for Republicans even tho Democrat policies are superior economically. How about eju-mukating them that they should vote against Democrats for ALL reasons…...

9 posted on 01/09/2014 5:44:41 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Kaslin

Never dawned on Candy that people motivated by hand outs are NEVER EVER going to vote Repub anyway. Then again, never dawned on the GOP E either.


10 posted on 01/09/2014 5:45:36 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Kaslin
Well Candie, how about fining out how many people approve of just hitting someone over the head and taking their money? Voting democrat is pretty much doing just that. You are encouraging stealing from those who work to give to those who don't. I understand that there are many out there who are trying to work, but if you stop meddling with the economy they might actually find a job.

Oh yeah, and if you get rid of illegals, you might find more and more Americans can FIND work.

11 posted on 01/09/2014 5:45:51 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: Kaslin

The liberals would rather have government handouts; they don’t want jobs.


12 posted on 01/09/2014 5:46:38 AM PST by gortklattu (God knows who is best, everybody else is making guesses - Tony Snow)
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To: Kaslin

Candy, your talks are getting old really fast. We all know you are a bought and paid for liar.


13 posted on 01/09/2014 5:47:20 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: lonestar
Why would anybody who wants a job vote Democrat?

DING DING DING!!!!

NO MORE CALLS, WE HAVE A WINNER!

14 posted on 01/09/2014 5:48:16 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin

Since growing the government by the democrats has CAUSED all the unemployment why would anyone continue to vote democrat?

“Lost your job thanks to us? well dont vote Republican because they wont give you unemployment!”


15 posted on 01/09/2014 5:50:52 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Kaslin

Why don’t we just raise the minimum wage to $100 per hour and then give everyone that ever loses their job lifetime unemployment benefits?

Why stop at $15 per hour and 3 years? That’s just not enough and is just not fair.

Raise the minimum wage so that every unskilled lazy bum makes as much as a doctor and extend unemployment compensation until death.

Don’t let anyone call us unfair or heartless.


16 posted on 01/09/2014 5:51:16 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Kaslin

Wow, Roger Ailies is right about CNN, it is DONE in regards to reporting the news.


17 posted on 01/09/2014 5:51:35 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Kaslin

Curious. I wonder why anyone who works would vote Democrat...


18 posted on 01/09/2014 5:52:34 AM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Why would the out-of-work vote Republican? Because the democrats put them out-of-work...


19 posted on 01/09/2014 5:52:40 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: lonestar

Because they don’t really want a job?


20 posted on 01/09/2014 5:52:57 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Kaslin

Well, Candy, because some people would actually rather have a job than collect unemployment, and your side is only competent to provide the latter.


21 posted on 01/09/2014 5:56:23 AM PST by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Kaslin
Why Would the Out-of-Work Vote Republican?
Weeeell, let's see ... And yet the morons keep voting Dem.
22 posted on 01/09/2014 6:00:40 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Kaslin
CNN's Crowley: Why Would the Out-of-Work Vote Republican?

FR's Texas Eagle: Why Would the Un-Brain-Dead Watch CNN?

23 posted on 01/09/2014 6:06:23 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Kaslin

Hey Candy... how’d that healthcare meddling thing work out for the democrats?


24 posted on 01/09/2014 6:07:43 AM PST by moovova
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To: C. Edmund Wright

i have friends and a relative who are on disability and unemployment but are Republicans and vote conservative. Just because you are Republican does not mean you are insensitive. In fact, we think the Dems are insensitive


25 posted on 01/09/2014 6:08:46 AM PST by ncpatriot
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To: oh8eleven

We look at those as failures because we accept the premises that the left put forth for implementing them.

Perhaps the outcomes happen to be exactly what their true goals were all along?


26 posted on 01/09/2014 6:10:24 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin

After what we’ve learned about Benghazi and the last presidential debate I would be absolutely positively astonished anyone would consider Candy Crowley a credible journalist anymore.


27 posted on 01/09/2014 6:11:31 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Kaslin

The out-of-work folks love the gub’ment checks for not working, provided of course by generous vote-buying Democrats. So why vote Republican and actually become a productive citizen when you can get paid for being a slug?


28 posted on 01/09/2014 6:19:25 AM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: Kaslin

Maybe they give a crap about the future of their country and their children, you phat little.....

When people only vote for what the government can hand them in the form of freebies and subsidies we just as well be slaves. Excuse my racist white ass.


29 posted on 01/09/2014 6:23:20 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: MrB
Perhaps the outcomes happen to be exactly what their true goals were all along?
I don't doubt it for a millisecond.
30 posted on 01/09/2014 6:24:15 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Both parties are hip to the “buy votes” method of getting and holding power. Unversal suffrage is anathema to a stable government/society. The leeches will always outnumber the producers, it’s human nature.


31 posted on 01/09/2014 6:26:17 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Kaslin

“Candy! Check the transcript!”


32 posted on 01/09/2014 6:27:28 AM PST by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: Kaslin

just shows dems see the unemployed as a source of votes

also gives one of the reasons why unemployment almost always rises under dems


33 posted on 01/09/2014 6:27:59 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

That’s what I was thinking about her statement -

she tipped her hand - Democrats are not interested in reducing unemployment because they have a guaranteed pool of votes.

They have perverse incentives to keep the economy bad.


34 posted on 01/09/2014 6:29:53 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Keeping the economy down increases dimrat voters.
Granting amnesty will insure that dimrat voters way outnumber repub voters. This will keep them in power regardless of the condition of the country.

Their goal is absolute power.


35 posted on 01/09/2014 6:32:25 AM PST by Texas resident
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To: ncpatriot
Just because you are Republican does not mean you are insensitive. In fact, we think the Dems are insensitive

uh….any particular reason you posted this to me? Did we cross wires???? You must've misconstrued something...

36 posted on 01/09/2014 6:32:58 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Kaslin

Demon Rat


37 posted on 01/09/2014 6:33:07 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Texas resident

And as we are discussing on another thread, that absolute power is intended to be used to kill anyone that opposes their beliefs.


38 posted on 01/09/2014 6:37:57 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin
How does the GOP hope to fight against this PROPAGANDA?

Let's get back to real news like F&F, Benghazi, Obamacare disaster, and IRSgate.
39 posted on 01/09/2014 6:47:18 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Kaslin

I know this is heresy to the liberals and the media (but I repeat myself), but all decisions should not be based solely on what garners the most votes. Every once in a while politicians ought to consider doing what is right.


40 posted on 01/09/2014 6:47:18 AM PST by NCLaw441
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To: Cboldt

That is why I did not say Democrats or Republican. Every elected person from the time they get elected to the time they leave office has only one person’s best interest at heart, and that is themselves.

Now if it is in their best interest to follow the mandates of those that elected them, good. If not (as when they receive bribes, opps, I meant campaign funds from a special interest group, then they will support the side that gave them the most money.

Our entire system is corrupt, just think it only took us 200 plus years to reach this point. Other great civilizations managed to go on for thousands of years before corruption killed them off.

It would help if we had an honest press, but we don’t.

Here is an idea Mr. Media boss, how about a story on every member of congress that entered office as a middle class person with modest savings leaving office multimillionaires.


41 posted on 01/09/2014 6:53:27 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I do not doubt that our climate changes. I only doubt that anything man does has any effect.)
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To: P-Marlowe

As you say...why stop? Why not raise the minimum to $25/hr and UI to $1000/week for all for life with a two week eligibility for the full benefit.


42 posted on 01/09/2014 7:05:24 AM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Kaslin
Candy ‘if a Democrat say it, CNN will report it as the truth’ Crowley Has no credibility at all. CNN is circling the drain. I am bummed that Jake Tapper seems to have rolled over for the Dems. I had thought he was getting tougher on Obama in the WH briefings but since switching stations he has been a disappointment.
43 posted on 01/09/2014 7:08:45 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: Kaslin

question for Crowley.. is there ANY limit on the length of time she thinks someone healthy and capable of work should be able to receive unemployment benefits?

2 years?
10 years?
50 years?

is there ANY limit to how long she is willing to pay to have perfectly healthy people sit at home on their butts?


44 posted on 01/09/2014 7:11:10 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Kaslin

Liberals tell me I should vote for what is in it for me.

Conservatives tell me I should vote for what is best for the nation.

My clarification on this obvious blithering; “If I am a selfish unemployed liberal, why would I vote for the party that insists that to extend unemployment benefits would require spending cuts in other places?”


45 posted on 01/09/2014 7:28:29 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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To: Yorlik803

A thoroughly repulsive dork .


46 posted on 01/09/2014 7:38:31 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: Blue Collar Christian

Sometimes I think I love to see the Rinos counter-offer of $30 an hour minimum wage just to get the Democrats to vote against it.

(Or $50...whatever it takes)

They could talk about the heartless Democrats not wanting people to have a normal, middle-class life. In fact, they could use all the Democrat talking points against them.

This, of course, assume the Dems would oppose it as an idea that would be too costly.


47 posted on 01/09/2014 7:41:52 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Ouderkirk

You’re not actually requiring people to have actually found a job and worked it for 14 days to be eligible to collect the lifetime unemployment benefit are you?

That’s not fair. What if they were unable to look for a job because they were too busy selling drugs or working as prostitutes? What if the job interview time conflicted with the Oprah show?

People should not have to have actually worked to get unemployment. Unemployment Compensation is a Human Right!!!!!


48 posted on 01/09/2014 8:27:00 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

And blame it on the Republicans


49 posted on 01/09/2014 8:36:50 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Yorlik803

She’s 2 dorks in one


50 posted on 01/09/2014 8:37:36 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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