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Ann Coulter: Illegal Immigration, Polls and Dishonesty
FrontPage Mag ^ | 01/09/2014 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 01/09/2014 7:42:17 AM PST by SeekAndFind

With Republicans tying themselves in knots over the Democrats’ destructive, but superficially appealing, demand that unemployment benefits be extended to two and a half years, I return to my suggestion that Republicans stop playing defense and go on offense.For every issue that MSNBC loves to prattle on about, gloating that it will cost Republicans this or that demographic, there’s an equivalent issue to use against the Democrats. (The difference is: Our proposals would actually be good for the country.)

In addition to my repeated suggestion that Republicans introduce bills to institutionalize the dangerous mentally ill and force the Democrats to defend the right of psychos to crap in libraries and shoot up schools, Republicans should take the public’s side on immigration.

Democrats love to pretend their sucking up to illegals is all upside for them, but that’s because they lie even when taking polls.

Liberals will claim that 99 percent of Americans favor national health care after taking a poll that asks: “Do you support Americans being nice to one another?”

WAIT! THAT’S NOT A POLL ABOUT NATIONAL HEALTH CARE!

It’s the same thing. The government providing free health care to everyone is just being nice.

They’ll claim “90 percent of Americans favor banning most guns” based on a poll that asks, “Are you for common sense gun safety or are you against it?”

Similarly, the immigration polls triumphantly brandished by the media ask about positions no one holds, no politician has proposed and no bills would require. Polls are irrelevant if you lie to the people being polled.

Most immigration polls are variations on the one taken by the liberal Brookings Institution last March. Although it has been endlessly cited for allegedly showing that a majority of Americans support amnesty, the poll never asked about amnesty, or any real policy.

Rather, the poll gave respondents only two options, neither of which have been proposed by either political party or are up for a vote anywhere in America.

The options were:

“The best way to solve the country’s illegal immigration problem is to secure our borders and arrest and deport all those who are here illegally”;

Or:

“The best way to solve the country’s illegal immigration problem is to both secure our borders and provide an earned path to citizenship for illegal immigrants already in the U.S.”

Neither of those choices describes the position of anyone on either side of the immigration debate. Amnesty proponents have no intention of either securing the border or making illegals do anything to “earn” citizenship. Meanwhile, not a single amnesty opponent has proposed any program to “arrest and deport” illegals.

But amnesty proponents turn around and cite this fraudulent poll as proof that a majority of Americans support “a path to legalization.”

This is how the left uses polls to manipulate public opinion, rather than find out what it is. They provide the ingredients for today’s political discussion and we’re not allowed to pick any items off the menu.

But can’t I be against amnesty without voting for rounding up illegals at gunpoint?

No substitutions! Look at the menu.

All the “path to legalization” polls play the same trick. Either armed men round up millions of women and children at midnight, put them in leg irons and immediately deport them on stinky buses; or we offer them a “path to legalization” after meeting all sorts of onerous requirements (none of which will ever materialize).

There were loads of promises surrounding Ronald Reagan’s 1986 amnesty, too — such as securing the border, punishing employers who hire illegals and forcing illegals to pay back taxes. Sen. Teddy Kennedy vowed: “We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this.” (Those were the good old days when they were willing to call it “amnesty.”)

Obviously, that promise ended up in the same place Mary Jo Kopechne did — underwater and unmentioned.

After the bill passed, then-Rep. Chuck Schumer (Gov. Chris Christie’s current immigration adviser) immediately introduced a bill excusing illegal aliens from having to pay any back taxes at all.

Now, instead of 3 million illegal aliens living here, we have 11 million, salsa is the best-selling condiment in America, and I have to press “one” for English.

We already tried this the nice way. The country gets one mulligan, not two.

An honest poll question would ask:

Do you think people who have knowingly broken our laws to come here illegally with their families since the last amnesty should be rewarded with citizenship, or should they voluntarily go back the same way they came?

An even more honest immigration poll question would ask:

At a time of massive unemployment, do you think people who have knowingly broken our laws and come here illegally with their families since the last amnesty should be rewarded with citizenship, or should they voluntarily go back the same way they came?

Even a poll question that simply omits the lies about the theoretical hurdles illegals will have to clear (which will never happen) produces a poll in which a majority of Americans support “deportation.”

Last year, the TechCrunch website polled this question: “Do you support or oppose deporting the 11 million undocumented immigrants currently living in the U.S.?”

Again: NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT DEPORTATION. We didn’t round up 11 million foreigners to get them here, and we’re not going to round them up to send them home. They’ll leave the same way they came.

But even answering a stacked poll question asking about something no one has proposed — deportation — a majority of respondents, 53.4 percent, supported deportation, compared to 42 percent opposed. Among Republicans, 74.1 percent favored deportation, with only 22.3 percent opposed.

Not only that, but a Fox News poll last year showed that a majority of Americans would like to curtail legal immigration, with 55 percent supporting a decrease in legal immigrants and only 28 percent supporting an increase.

My thought is: Republicans should push policies that are popular.

But instead of proposing immigration reforms that are runaway hits with a majority of Americans — without anyone even having made the argument! — Republicans have been hoodwinked by Democrats into trying to outbid Democrats for the Hispanic vote. They still won’t win the Hispanic vote, but now the rest of the country will hate Republicans, too.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegals; immigration; polls
So, does she still love Chris Christie? (Who recently signed a bill to give illegals in-state tuition in NJ)
1 posted on 01/09/2014 7:42:17 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s not forget that Democrats love to treat the symptoms and not the cause, as in the unemployment compensation ruse. By failing to address the root cause, the problem persists, and gives the dems a shot at the republicans every year...truly a gift that keeps on giving! This is like the war on poverty, just on a lesser scale.

Republicans need to expose this scam and start dealing with root causes!


2 posted on 01/09/2014 7:51:34 AM PST by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: SeekAndFind
"With Republicans tying themselves in knots"

gee whiz I guess that great budget bargain ryan & bohner signed has a catch

hmmmm

fooled again or lying again.

does it really matter at this point?

3 posted on 01/09/2014 7:59:12 AM PST by Pietro
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To: SeekAndFind

“Meanwhile, not a single amnesty opponent has proposed any program to “arrest and deport” illegals.”

I guess an ordinary citizen doesn’t count as an amnesty opponent.

My proposal is to arrest, flog, brand, and deport illegal aliens—and no stinky bus, either. Let them walk.

Of course, this should commence after giving them 30 days to self-deport.


4 posted on 01/09/2014 8:04:49 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: SeekAndFind
These Republican clowns like Christie who are giving illegal aliens in-state tuition don't realize that they are asking out-of-state American students to pay for it.

Totally overlooked is this section of federal law that some smart lawyers will soon grab onto.

The Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996, § 1623 provides that:

"Notwithstanding any other provision of law, an alien who is not lawfully present in the United States shall not be eligible on the basis of residence within a State (or a political subdivision) for any postsecondary education benefit unless a citizen or national of the United States is eligible for such a benefit (in no less an amount, duration, and scope) without regard to whether the citizens or national is such a resident."

So all you out-of-state kids and your parents who are paying through the nose on tuition, get your lawsuits ready.

5 posted on 01/09/2014 8:10:24 AM PST by oldbill
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To: SeekAndFind

I am for deporting the pollsters first - Antarctica would be my choice of a destination.


6 posted on 01/09/2014 8:13:51 AM PST by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: SeekAndFind

Here Ann is at her best when she combines precise analysis with her legal scholar mind with her biting sarcasm. When she does one without the other she comes across weaker or subject to critics of those who otherwise might agree with her.

Here she carefully analyzes and explains the false polling method in detail and then hits the zinger button — all very effective.

Her problems with Bush, then Romney, then Christie is she states a pragmatic opinion in making her selection and doesn’t explain in detail why she is driven there. In person, back in 2000, I heard her explain her reservations on GWB and then explain that from judicial appointments alone she felt she had to support him 100%. That works but she didn’t do that effectively when touting first Romney and then Christie. She is not naturally aligned with them, but she fails to explain where she feels that pragmatism must take over where even if we disagree, we would allow her to have an opinion.


7 posted on 01/09/2014 8:24:51 AM PST by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.ha)
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

The biggest problem with Republicans is that they listen to, and believe what the Dims tell them.

As far as self deportation I strongly advocate giving them a 2 month amnesty to get out of our country before actively pursuing them. They should be treated like illegals are treated in Mexico.


8 posted on 01/09/2014 9:12:17 AM PST by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of "gun free zones"?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rounding up illegals at gunpoint?
No problem with that.


9 posted on 01/09/2014 9:35:06 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: SeekAndFind

Wake up, Ann.

The pubbies gets more goodies as minority party...TV...loved by media...kickbacks, less work...etc. Just like Republican congressmen and senators being ok with 0bummercare, amnesty, etc. That all maintains their more powerful personally as minority party. There can be no logical case to think otherwise...if they wanted to purposely lose elections or govern, what would they be doing differently???

Same argument for Boehner and amnesty...same for Ryan and when his mouth opens...same for...name the pubbie.

This is why they hate the Tea Party...they actually want to win, rock the boat, go BACK to the Constitution and freedom and limited government.

Wake up, Ann!


10 posted on 01/09/2014 9:46:56 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Pajama-boy-in-chief's beatings continue until morale improves.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wake up, Ann.

The pubbies gets more goodies as minority party...TV...loved by media...kickbacks, less work...etc. Just like Republican congressmen and senators being ok with 0bummercare, amnesty, etc. That all maintains their more powerful personally as minority party. There can be no logical case to think otherwise...if they wanted to purposely lose elections or govern, what would they be doing differently???

Same argument for Boehner and amnesty...same for Ryan and when his mouth opens...same for...name the pubbie.

This is why they hate the Tea Party...they actually want to win, rock the boat, go BACK to the Constitution and freedom and limited government.

Wake up, Ann!


11 posted on 01/09/2014 9:48:29 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Pajama-boy-in-chief's beatings continue until morale improves.)
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