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Ford Exec: ‘We Know Everyone Who Breaks The Law’ Thanks To Our GPS In Your Car
Business Insider ^ | January 8, 2014 | Jim Edwards

Posted on 01/09/2014 10:06:54 AM PST by billorites

Ford's Global VP/Marketing and Sales, Jim Farley, said something both sinister and obvious during a panel discussion about data privacy today at CES, the big electronics trade show in Las Vegas.

Because of the GPS units installed in Ford vehicles, Ford knows when its drivers are speeding, and where they are while they're doing it.

Farley was trying to describe how much data Ford has on its customers, and illustrate the fact that the company uses very little of it in order to avoid raising privacy concerns: "We know everyone who breaks the law, we know when you're doing it. We have GPS in your car, so we know what you're doing. By the way, we don't supply that data to anyone," he told attendees.

Rather, he said, he imagined a day when the data might be used anonymously and in aggregate to help other marketers with traffic related problems. Suppose a stadium is holding an event; knowing how much traffic is making its way toward the arena might help the venue change its parking lot resources accordingly, he said.

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1 posted on 01/09/2014 10:06:54 AM PST by billorites
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To: billorites

All of those Mustangs are ratting out their owners LOL


2 posted on 01/09/2014 10:10:01 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: billorites

On GM vehicles you can pull the fuse on the ONSTAR mirror and disable the whole thing. At least you could.
If the data is being stored by FORD or GM..then the govt can get it. Probably already has it.


3 posted on 01/09/2014 10:11:30 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: billorites

I think I’ll avoid buying cars with already installed GPS’s & just use one that I bought separately.


4 posted on 01/09/2014 10:11:31 AM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: billorites

I don’t need no steenking GPS!

Don’t install it in my car.


5 posted on 01/09/2014 10:13:15 AM PST by left that other site
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To: billorites

The first company that advertises they are NOT tracking consumers via GPS will see an increase in 20% of sales.


6 posted on 01/09/2014 10:13:33 AM PST by PGR88
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To: billorites

This guy is in marketing??? I hope Ford gives him a new job, soon.


7 posted on 01/09/2014 10:14:39 AM PST by Truth29
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To: billorites

Stop buying Fords ould be my recommendation after that comment. Time to Cracker Barrell him...


8 posted on 01/09/2014 10:14:44 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: billorites
I don't know about GPS but BlondeStar ™ devices for women are an absolute necessity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrt2q6Mpeyc

9 posted on 01/09/2014 10:14:46 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: billorites
Court Rules Cops Don't Need A Warrant to Track Cell Phones
10 posted on 01/09/2014 10:15:25 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: billorites; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...
"By the way, we don't supply that data to anyone," yet.

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...

11 posted on 01/09/2014 10:15:30 AM PST by null and void (It is as if they all had one head. Too bad they don't all have one neck.)
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To: billorites

This dunce is in charge of marketing? Maybe for Toyota.


12 posted on 01/09/2014 10:16:00 AM PST by bramps (Mark Levin: Would Christie, McConnell, and Boehner repeal obamacare? Not a chance!)
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To: Twotone

My dad wonders why I have an old 1980 Plymouth that I want to get back into service asap. No GPS, no complex EFI system, speed control, etc. Just a 360, 4 barrel and a Torqueflite.


13 posted on 01/09/2014 10:17:09 AM PST by Antihero101607
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To: jsanders2001

Every car with a built in GPS (which these days is almost every car) has the same situation. If your car knows where you are it knows how fast you’re going, and it knows enough about the local traffic laws (if only from observing their other drivers) to know when you’re breaking them.


14 posted on 01/09/2014 10:17:18 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: billorites

Don’t forget the black boxes. Federally required on ALL 2014 vehicles. By unconstitutional regulation, NOT by Constitutional legislation.

Buy a leftover 2013 model and keep it as long as you can.


15 posted on 01/09/2014 10:17:38 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: billorites
. By the way, we don't supply that data to anyone, yet

So why is it gathered? Solely to deny warranty claims?

16 posted on 01/09/2014 10:18:23 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: billorites

The GPS is fine, its the transmitter radioing info to Ford that’s the problem.


17 posted on 01/09/2014 10:19:43 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: jsanders2001

Before the government has an orgasm thinking about the prospect of tapping into our GPS and issuing automated citations, let me just say this - Hammer time because that is exactly what will happen to my GPS whether they try to pull an Obamacare on this issue too. I will beat that GPS unit 6 ways to Sunday...


18 posted on 01/09/2014 10:19:58 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Truth29
This guy is in marketing??? I hope Ford gives him a new job, soon.

LOL!

19 posted on 01/09/2014 10:19:59 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree ( July 4, 1776: Declaration of Independence. Nov 6, 2012: Declaration of Dependence. R.I.P. America.)
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To: PGR88

I think it’s going to come to that. Let the market decide what goes in our cars, not so much the Govt. Data collection has become a means of activity in and of itself, not really needing to do the actually finding of terrorists.


20 posted on 01/09/2014 10:20:17 AM PST by lee martell
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To: Truth29

The key here is understanding that these people don’t care what you think.
Because you can’t do anything about it....and they are right.


21 posted on 01/09/2014 10:20:53 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: billorites

Yet another reason to buy used...


22 posted on 01/09/2014 10:21:01 AM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: billorites
We Know Everyone Who Breaks The Law’ Thanks To Our GPS In Your Car
They been doing this the old fashioned way for decades on toll roads with tickets - like the NYS Thruway.
Back in '68 I raced down the Thruway at 90+ mph and when I got to my exit, the guy looked at my ticket and wanted to know how I got there so fast.
Told him I was USMC and just back from VN trying to get home. He nodded his head and asked me to please slow down.
23 posted on 01/09/2014 10:21:08 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: billorites

“We know everyone who breaks the law, we know when you’re doing it. We have GPS in your car, so we know what you’re doing. By the way, we don’t supply that data to anyone,” he told attendees.

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I’ll bet the farm that if you don’t make your car payments to Ford Motor Credit that GPS info will be relayed to all repo trucks in your general vicinity.


24 posted on 01/09/2014 10:22:42 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Oldexpat

Government mandated ODB requirements.

We’ve been talking about this since around 2000. And now it’s an issue?

There is a reason why my next vehicle may very well be a mid-70’s 4x4...


25 posted on 01/09/2014 10:22:50 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: jsanders2001

Won’t work. Once the GPS is required, like the black boxes, your car will fail to run if you disable them. And it *will* be a federal offense to tamper with them.

Remember catalytic converters?


26 posted on 01/09/2014 10:23:26 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: billorites
"Because of the GPS units installed in Ford vehicles, Ford knows when its drivers are speeding, and where they are while they're doing it. "

So Ford knows when I'm driving 55mph in a 25 mph zone which is only half a mile?

27 posted on 01/09/2014 10:25:27 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: billorites

Some day soon we will be getting tax bills from the government for the number of miles we have driven and how much “carbon pollution” we have emitted followed by a summons from local law enforcement for speeding violations. George Orwell could not have imagined how much the government is actually keeping track of us all. It is ironic that the touchstone of liberal thinking, Roe vs. Wade, was based on the assumption of constitutionally guaranteed right to privacy.


28 posted on 01/09/2014 10:26:14 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: billorites
"Ford knows when its drivers are speeding, and where they are while they're doing it."

I've always found it amusing that people seem to ignore the fact that large for-profit corporations "spy" and share data on everything they do (google, facebook, credit card companies, etc. etc.), but then have a stroke when they find out that the government has a surveilance operation for national security purposes....
29 posted on 01/09/2014 10:27:30 AM PST by indthkr
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To: rockrr

Not to worry. If those Ford GPS units are as effective and efficient as the Ford Sync™ systems that Ford has used for years....

We have nothing to worry about


30 posted on 01/09/2014 10:28:02 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: null and void




Support your Free Republic

31 posted on 01/09/2014 10:28:12 AM PST by Lady Jag (Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society. - Aristotle)
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To: billorites

Does that mean if mine is stolen I can ask them and they will help find it?


32 posted on 01/09/2014 10:28:57 AM PST by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. ItÂ’s been found hard and not tried')
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To: billorites

And .. this is why I opted for repairing my old car and not buying a new one.

And .. why I turn off the GPS in my mobile phone. I do turn it on if I make LONG trips into unfamiliar territory - just for my safety.


33 posted on 01/09/2014 10:29:33 AM PST by CyberAnt (MY AMERICA: "... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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To: jsanders2001

“let me just say this - Hammer time because that is exactly what will happen to my GPS whether they try to pull an Obamacare on this issue too. “

Yes but the other 999 out of a thousand won’t.


34 posted on 01/09/2014 10:30:23 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: billorites

Time to buy and invest in GPS blockers.


35 posted on 01/09/2014 10:33:30 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I’ll bet the farm that if you don’t make your car payments to Ford Motor Credit that GPS info will be relayed to all repo trucks in your general vicinity.

The GPS positioning data (at minimum) is used by law enforcement today. The GPS tracking in Aaron Hernadez' smart phone and from is rental car were used to put him at the crime scene and put him in the vehicle that was at the crime scene. Seems maybe they found a gun or brass in the car?

Making all this sensor data useful is what a lot of the talk about "big data" is about. Between your smartphone, blackbox in your car, credit card receipts, other? - you won't be able to take a leak without leaving footprints in sensors somewhere.

36 posted on 01/09/2014 10:33:51 AM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I’m going to marry my car so it can’t testify against me.


37 posted on 01/09/2014 10:34:20 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Dead Corpse

Cloaked in the global warming talking points, Cash for clunker program removed (nudged) many of the older cars from the market


38 posted on 01/09/2014 10:34:52 AM PST by opentalk
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Don’t forget the black boxes. Federally required on ALL 2014 vehicles. By unconstitutional regulation, NOT by Constitutional legislation.

Buy a leftover 2013 model and keep it as long as you can.

At least some GM models have have had them for a few years now. Other manufacturers may have also.

The local Sheriff's office wrecked a Tahoe 3 years ago. They got the black box out from under the driver's seat to find out if the deputy was driving too fast or otherwise dangerously. Apparently the law enforcement video system wasn't turned on at the time.

39 posted on 01/09/2014 10:37:16 AM PST by FreedomOfExpression
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To: billorites

well I love Mustangs too, but good old Ford was a Nazi and now we learn his company is secretly spying on us (all this under the new IslamoNazi regime in WashDC)

hey, you younger people.. you’re gonna have to live, or die, under all this. The new Brown Shirts are being hired and trained as you read this, and armed to the teeth too, and they will have computer dossiers on every single thing you’ve ever said, done, typed, or written, and also your medical records, your financial records, your tax records, your legal records, everything.

Enjoy, my young friends. I’m nearly out of here already, its all yours now....

(so sorry my generation let this happen to you!!!!!!)


40 posted on 01/09/2014 10:40:10 AM PST by faithhopecharity (no)
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To: billorites

Just how can one disable this? Will a 1/4 inch drill in the right place do it?


41 posted on 01/09/2014 10:41:24 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Yep. Just like Santa Claus. I predicted this some time ago. The black box in your car will give you up for speeding, as soon as the state figures out a way to sift the data from all those other cars.


42 posted on 01/09/2014 10:48:17 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: massgopguy

Are you related to this gal? BTW-is your car male or female?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV8ew4aafN4


43 posted on 01/09/2014 10:49:23 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: indthkr

I don’t know of anybody who fits the description you’re talking about.

And there’s a heckuva difference between the free market doing stuff - where you can vote with your checkbook - and the government doing it (where they can mandate everything, for all those living in Rio Linda, as Rush might say).

For instance, Ford may have no reason to want to program my car to go 100 mph and crash into a tree, but I can guarantee you that there are people in the US and HI government who would like to. And if I had a car that had On-Star they have the means and opportunity to do it as well as motive.

Also, how the heck is watching my every move making this country safer from terrorist attacks? Tell me exactly how that is helping anybody. For surveillance purposes it is only CLOGGING their system because they’ve got that much more data to sift through. All that surveillance on me, and yet they had the Tsarnaev brothers in their sights and didn’t do a dang thing about it, before they helped Osama Bin Laden’s son Hamza blow up the Boston Marathon finish line.

But then, they had Hamza in the hospital also, and the forensic evidence to label him a “known terrorist” but what did the federal government do? They sent Michelle Obama to visit him in the hospital, took off the “known terrorist” classification, and sent him out of the country so the Boston Police couldn’t get him either. Only to let him in again 3 months later to gloat over a 4th of July event at the White House for US military personnel...

Anybody who talks about this regime following my every move in order to “keep us all safe” gets a big fat raspberry in the face from me. Get Hamza back here and put his sorry a$$ in jail right alongside Barry and Michelle his accomplices in terror, and THEN we can talk about the government using ANY of this stuff to “keep us safe”.


44 posted on 01/09/2014 10:49:30 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Time to buy and invest in GPS blockers.

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Count me out. I remember radar detectors. And how many states outlawed the use of them.

Same thing with a GPS blocker. The state will only fine you if you use one.


45 posted on 01/09/2014 10:49:36 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Antihero101607

Yeah...umm does it have a ballast resistor?
:))


46 posted on 01/09/2014 10:51:07 AM PST by spankalib ("I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.")
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To: null and void

of course they don’t/s


47 posted on 01/09/2014 10:51:56 AM PST by Nifster
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To: hal ogen

Just how can one disable this? Will a 1/4 inch drill in the right place do it?

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Sure. It will disable the GPS, and by design disable your whole car.


48 posted on 01/09/2014 10:53:56 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: massgopguy

It’ll leave you for a newer model and take half of your half.


49 posted on 01/09/2014 10:56:22 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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I’ve tracked my GPS vs. speed limit accuracy. It’s not accurate.


50 posted on 01/09/2014 11:00:03 AM PST by AlmaKing
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