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As cannabis is widely legalized, China cashes in on an unprecedented boom
Times of India/Indpendent UK ^ | 05 January 2014 | Ian Johnston

Posted on 01/09/2014 12:23:55 PM PST by Lorianne

Almost 5,000 years ago, Chinese physicians recommended a tea made from cannabis leaves to treat a wide variety of conditions including gout and malaria. Today, as the global market for marijuana experiences an unprecedented boom after being widely legalized, it is China that again appears to have set its eyes on dominating trade in the drug.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: china; freetrade; marijuana; patents
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1 posted on 01/09/2014 12:23:55 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Tainted milk and donkey meat sold as beef. What could go wrong?


2 posted on 01/09/2014 12:25:41 PM PST by sarasota
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To: Lorianne

After China’s significant strides developing dog food and powdered milk.


3 posted on 01/09/2014 12:26:11 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Lorianne

I wondered if it wouldn’t help with gout.


4 posted on 01/09/2014 12:27:39 PM PST by Rio (Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
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To: Lorianne

Oh. I thought they were going to take over Doritos production.


5 posted on 01/09/2014 12:30:40 PM PST by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: Lorianne

That’s probably one of the reasons the Dems have been so pro-legalization. If it were simply for medical purposes, it doesn’t need to be smoked: marijuana based painkillers and anti-nausea drugs (for people on chemotherapy) are already available in standardized, processed, prescribed pill form.

This was to open up the market. US tobacco companies have supposedly been pushing for this for years, with the progressive illegalization of tobacco, and there are obviously well-established foreign networks that would like to get in on the deal.

Interestingly, it is being legalized with no health requirements or standards, no restrictions (for example, intoxication for driving purposes), little way of checking except posthumously or after arrest for presence in the system, no price controls, no taxes, no nothing.

Personally, I think it’s because a stoned populace is a submissive populace, and also because while Islam prohibits alcohol, it runs on qat, hash, and many other drugs of this nature produced and shipped from Islamic countries or from Asia.


6 posted on 01/09/2014 12:30:43 PM PST by livius
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To: Lorianne

Made in China


7 posted on 01/09/2014 12:36:19 PM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell x)
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To: Lorianne

China sees what is happening in the West, and they hold a strong historical grievance for what happened in the Opium wars and afterwards - a British and French forced monopoly of opium trade into China, which they blame for the weakening of their culture and societal and government chaos that followed for the next 100 years.

Its payback time!


8 posted on 01/09/2014 12:41:03 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Rio

I can’t imagine how it would help with gout.


9 posted on 01/09/2014 12:41:53 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Lorianne
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10 posted on 01/09/2014 12:43:34 PM PST by Zeneta
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To: AppyPappy

those budzzzzz are pain killers.


11 posted on 01/09/2014 12:44:45 PM PST by refermech
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To: sarasota

Donkey meat is good. They mixed in fox meat (bad).


12 posted on 01/09/2014 12:46:24 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: refermech

It’s been a few decades but I doubt weed will even touch Gout as a pain reliever. We are talking off-the-charts pain. Plus you need to attack the problem with Colchrys or Colchicine


13 posted on 01/09/2014 12:47:32 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Lorianne

And you thought Paraquat on Mexican pot was bad.


14 posted on 01/09/2014 12:47:44 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: Rio

If you have gout, sorry...worse pain ever.

http://medicalmarijuana.com/medical-marijuana-treatments/Arthropathy-Gout-


15 posted on 01/09/2014 12:49:54 PM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: AppyPappy

cochicine will kill your liver, it works though. be careful with that stuff.


16 posted on 01/09/2014 12:51:11 PM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: livius
“If it were simply for medical purposes, it doesn’t need to be smoked: marijuana based painkillers and anti-nausea drugs (for people on chemotherapy) are already available in standardized, processed, prescribed pill form.”

The edible forms don't work as well for many people, are more difficult to dose (especially with the changing tolerance) and side effects last longer. Cannabis is a “cocktail” of natural drugs that work together. You can't simply isolate THC into pill form and get the same effect.

A better option is vaporizing real cannabis extract but for some people that does not work either. Not all chemicals are extracted and even fewer chemicals are vaporized at the lower temperatures.

Some people only get the medicinal effect from smoking the whole plant since they get all of the chemicals in an inhale-able form. The slight lung damage from smoking is nothing compared to their ailment.

IMO, all options should be available and the choice entirely up to the patient.

17 posted on 01/09/2014 12:51:15 PM PST by varyouga
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To: livius
little way of checking

and therein lies the problem. How does one determine a regular user, from someone who is high now, but not a regular. BAC is similar but more obvious. I had a friend who blew a 0.38 BAC after a minor fender bender in which he was not a fault, and the deputy put into the report "suspect did not appear intoxicated"

18 posted on 01/09/2014 12:54:10 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: CJ Wolf

Liver death is not listed as a side-effect but it’s a prescription that usually ages off before the refill (1 year). Flare-ups should be rare.


19 posted on 01/09/2014 12:57:07 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: varyouga

“The slight lung damage from smoking “

You’ve never been around dope smokers. I remember my roommates coughing up blood. Of course, they smoked from dawn to bed time.


20 posted on 01/09/2014 12:59:07 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: sarasota

THEN THERE WAS FOX MEAT SOLD AS DONKEY MEAT..........

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3107840/posts


21 posted on 01/09/2014 1:08:35 PM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Lorianne
In the 1940s, after WW_II, Marijuana became illegal. Smoking it was then an ethnic standard for Mexican folks in California during things like back yard picnics.

Then, along came the law and Robert Mitchum gained more fame for having smoked it and being sentenced to the Sheriff's prison North of Los Angeles. Story is at

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/actor-robert-mitchum-is-released-after-serving-time-for-marijuana-possession.

It was an offense against freedom then, and still is now.

22 posted on 01/09/2014 1:11:20 PM PST by OldNavyVet (Robert's revenge lies in our getting rid of Democrat control in House, Senate and Preisdent.)
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To: AppyPappy

sorry may be kidney failure going off what I remember my doc told me. my doc used to prescribe it for my gout, 2 pills and then one every hour until the runs start. they changed that to 2 pill day one and one pill for five days. He told me they had many cases of kidney or liver damage with the other doseage. but then again, they only perscribe me seven pills now, in case something starts. Wouldn’t wish that on anyone, except for maybe a certain democrat or two.


23 posted on 01/09/2014 1:11:54 PM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: CJ Wolf

My prescription is 1 every 4 hours but I can avoid the triggers pretty well. My wife accidentally bought a 6-pack of Pale Ale thinking it was Amber Ale. I gave that away immediately. That’s Gout in a bottle.


24 posted on 01/09/2014 1:21:33 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Lorianne

No thanks,,
Like we Americans cant grow out own pot,(from what i read on the internet)..


25 posted on 01/09/2014 1:23:39 PM PST by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: OldNavyVet
In the 1940s, after WW_II, Marijuana became illegal/

Not exactly. Legal restrictions by states started in 1906. By the mid-30s it was regulated or prohibited as a drug in every state. A 1937 Act made possession or sale a federal crime, for other than medicinal reasons.

26 posted on 01/09/2014 1:28:22 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: OldNavyVet

I did a term paper in college on marijuana, long before the Spin on it began.
In the first half of the century, marijuana smoking became associated with sloth, non-conformity and immorality. That led the politicians to outlaw it in order to “preserve society”. It was widely believed that marijuana smokers would quit being productive and become free loaders, even to the point of demanding to be supported by the government.
Alcohol was preference of the working man, including hard-working politicians.
It kept that reputation until the hippies turned marijuana into the intelligentsia drug.
It didn’t help that I attended a University that was and is still known as a prominent “Weed School”.


27 posted on 01/09/2014 1:39:31 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Sherman Logan
A 1937 Act made possession or sale a federal crime, for other than medicinal reasons.

They didn't exactly make posession a crime. Hemp was still being grown as a commodity crop. The Marijuana Tax Act was presented to Congress as a tax on production. You were supposed to buy tax stamps according to how much you grew. You had to bring it in to have it weighed to buy the stamps, but if you did they wouldn't sell you the stamps. They just arrested you for posession of marijuana that didn't have the stamps.

28 posted on 01/09/2014 1:41:42 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: AppyPappy

what beers do you recommend? I’ve noticed some really trigger it but haven’t quite figured out which do and don’t.


29 posted on 01/09/2014 1:51:28 PM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: AppyPappy

“You’ve never been around dope smokers. I remember my roommates coughing up blood. Of course, they smoked from dawn to bed time.”

Most likely from contaminated pot or mixing with tobacco. I knew a fella who got pneumonia from smoking slightly moldy pot.

I know people that chain smoke the high grade stuff like some people smoke cigarettes. Some in California for decades. They don’t touch tobacco at all. None have lung issues and several are former athletes still in top condition.

The people I know with the worst lungs are those who mixed it with tobacco for years. If you put both in a pipe, it forms a gunk that sticks to everything and can’t be removed with a single solvent. IMO, it’s due to the mixing of polar and non-polar tars. 1+ pack a day tobacco smokers are almost as bad.

Puff-for-puff there is no way pure pot is more damaging than tobacco. From what I’ve seen over tobacco is far worse and several studies have backed that up. And tobacco isn’t even that bad unless you consume more than 1/2 a pack a day or have a family history of cancer.


30 posted on 01/09/2014 2:18:19 PM PST by varyouga
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To: Rio
I wondered if it wouldn’t help with gout.

So will simple baking soda and water in a glass each day.

31 posted on 01/09/2014 2:37:19 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Sherman Logan

You’re probably right. I was writing based simply on memory.


32 posted on 01/09/2014 2:53:48 PM PST by OldNavyVet (Robert's revenge lies in our getting rid of Democrat control in House, Senate and Preisdent.)
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To: Rio

“if it wouldn’t help with gout’

My buddy got his medical marijuana card to help with gout. He smokes the weed to keep away gout, shingles, heartbreak of psoriasis,dandruff, etc.

;)


33 posted on 01/09/2014 3:38:43 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: CJ Wolf

Anything hoppy is a trigger. Stouts and amber ales usually do not. German lagers do not. But I stick with Natural Light because it is the least likely.


34 posted on 01/09/2014 4:31:35 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Ouderkirk
BAC is similar but more obvious. I had a friend who blew a 0.38 BAC after a minor fender bender in which he was not a fault, and the deputy put into the report "suspect did not appear intoxicated"

I has a Texas Highway Patrol Officer (and a fairly hardcore one) tell that he once got the Department sued, or almost sued, when he worked a one car accident. The driver was seated on a low wall when the trooper arrived, and gave some mundane reason for running off the road. The trooper took his information for the report, and called for a wrecker, but not am ambulance because the driver insisted he was unhurt. He didn't ask the driver to perform any field sobriety tests because he didn't detect any indication that the man had been drinking, much less was intoxicated. While he talking the driver and waiting for the wrecker another call came in, and as the driver seemed fine the trooper drove off to answer it.

About 30 seconds after he drove out of sight, the driver got back into the car, drove about a few blocks, and died in another one car accident. His blood alcohol level was three times the legal limit. And that, explained the trooper, was why he always asked about drinking and did at least the HGN test (eyes) when working a wreck.

35 posted on 01/09/2014 5:03:35 PM PST by Pilsner
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To: AppyPappy

Thanks sir. I pretty much stick with budlight. Still feel like I am not really drinking beer.


36 posted on 01/10/2014 8:38:49 AM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: Pilsner

These days I can spot the chronic alcoholic mostly because you can smell it on their person. The acetic acid smell emanates from every pore on their body and their breath. Which is why the driver you describe was out of the vehicle.

My co-worker got tapped in the right rear quarter by a woman who didn’t stop in time and busted the tail light and dented up the trunk. He was an experienced alcoholic, and to the deputy didn’t appear intoxicated but he must have gotten a whiff of it by being down-wind of him. That little comment by the arresting deputy, had my co-worker going to AA and psychologists for years. Nearly broke him of money...never stopped him from drinking. Still a drunk to this day.


37 posted on 01/10/2014 11:32:31 AM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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