Skip to comments.Kelly Thomas case is in the jury's hands
Posted on 01/09/2014 2:14:02 PM PST by FBD
An Orange County jury has begun deliberating the fates of two former Fullerton police officers accused of killing a schizophrenic homeless man during a violent encounter at a city bus depot in 2011.
Manuel Ramos and Jay Cicinelli are charged with striking Kelly Thomas with a baton and a stun gun in a beating that left the homeless man comatose. He died five days after the altercation.
The case went to the jury following Orange County Dist. Atty. Tony Rackauckas' rebuttal after three days of closing arguments... Rackauckas told jurors that the former officers had abused their authority on the July evening when they confronted Thomas.
Ramos is facing second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter charges, while Cicinelli is charged with involuntary manslaughter and excessive use of force...
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Standby for the verdict. I predict it will be a quick deliberation.
Guilty on all counts.
Not sure how foreign affairs got added to the list of topics.
Ping: jury verdict watch
Ping to jury watch.
I hope you are correct. These jackboots should be put behind bars for a long time.
Hoping for guilty.
I watched a long video, and from what that showed, it should be a no brainer.
Instead of restraining him, cuffing him, putting him a squad car, they played with him and toyed with him, taunting him.
These cops need to be an example.
I believe maximum sentence for Ramos is 15 years, but only 4 for Cincinelli. That’s not enough, considering he was heard saying: “I smashed his face to hell, “ with the butt end of his taser.
Agreed. I’ve read this area is very pro law enforcement, but that shouldn’t effect such a clear case of manslaughter. Why Cincinelli wasn’t charged with manslaughter too, is beyond me.
“Agreed. Ive read this area is very pro law enforcement, but that shouldnt effect such a clear case of manslaughter. Why Cincinelli wasnt charged with manslaughter too, is beyond me.”
I went to college in Fullerton. My wife is friends with a former girlfriend of Thomas’ father.
The DA generally is a good guy, and these cops went way, way too far. Kelly Thomas was known to be mentally ill, sometimes living homeless, but never violent.
Is that what I heard some on FR affectionately refer to as a “Maglite Migraine?”
It is time to tell these a$$holes, our freedom and safety is not at the price they want to extract.
Ive heard the DA is nicknamed T-Rack.
What I’ve read is mostly negative about him, but it seems like he did a fairly good job prosecuting this case. That defense lawyer is an absolute low life.
I hope the jury’s message comes across.
What’s taking so long — this should be a no-brainer.
I suppose some of them might think that’s appropriate dispensation of justice. Those cops, the chief, and the Mayor sure didn’t think they did anything wrong. That’s what I find so troubling about this whole affair.
I’m thinking they’ll have a verdict before the end of tomorrow.
If these jurors have any common sense.
What I’m amazed by, is that it took 2 1/2 years to bring this to trial.
Do you know how old Thomas was? Seems he’d have been relatively young?
He was 37
Ping, this is the case I was telling you about.
Than. Horrible. Both that he was mentally troubled and homeless, AND, apparently/allegedly, murdered by these cops.
Oh yes. Hilarious. Keel over laughing funny. And, the stupid civilian gets to have a misdemeanor arrest, fingerprints and DNA taken to the database (Oh, and be forever flagged on NICS so prole can never buy a gun without a waiting period). So funny, I can't s*** right. Oh gosh, cops can be so funny!
I am literally crapping myself in appreciation.
I forgot: The stupid civilian with the Migraine Headache gets to go to jail for a few days R & R.
(And we’re talking about a cop who loves to beat people up maybe getting a few months in the slammer.)
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This story pisses me off.
Now that's strange.
What are they going to do Friday thru Sunday -- go to Disneyland or Knotts Berry Farm???
If it weren’t for John & Ken on KFI radio I wouldn’t know a THING about this case. Kudos to them.
Don’t trust this jury. I give it 50-50 that the two murderers walk.
50-50? Is this what John and Ken have been saying on KFI?
That’s not very reassuring.
Has anyone been watching the case? I believe that often prosecutors accidentally-on-purpose do things to blow cases against their LE buddies, then the juries take the heat. I hope that doesn’t happen here.
We’ll see today what the verdict is I believe