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A GOP Plan for Health Care? Donít Bet on It: The Republicans won't unify on a plan
National Review ^ | 01/10/2014 | Jonathan Strong

Posted on 01/10/2014 5:06:54 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Is it time for the GOP to graduate from bashing Obamacare to embracing a solution of its own?

Republicans on Capitol Hill are increasingly eying the possibility, even as conservative voices push against the idea of a single, comprehensive bill.

“When do we add to our arsenal, not just attacking Obamacare, which deserves to be attacked and exposed for its own weaknesses, but when do we add to that discussion a way to resolve the health-care issues that we face in the nation?” asks Representative Mick Mulvaney of South Carolina.

In the spring, GOP whip Kevin McCarthy established a working group called the House Obamacare Accountability Project, which sources say has quietly discussed the possibility of adapting health-care principles for the party to embrace.

The group’s work complements the efforts of individual members such as Representative Tom Price of Georgia, who has championed his own health-care bill, and Republican Study Committee chairman Steve Scalise, who worked with Representative Phil Roe to craft an RSC bill the group unveiled in September.

On December 3, at the height of the HealthCare.gov failures, President Obama challenged opponents: “I will work with anybody to implement this law effectively. Now, you got good ideas? Bring ’em to me. Let’s go.”

Days later, the RSC sent its bill to the president. The group now has a clock on its website documenting the time that has elapsed without response from the president.

Mulvaney says the hardest question he gets back home when Obamacare comes up is, “well, what do the Republicans want to do about health care?” The trouble isn’t that the GOP doesn’t have ideas, he says. “We’ve got them! We all know about the bills and so forth. But we haven’t, sort of rallied behind them yet and driven that message as a party. So when do we start to do that?” he asks. But that’s easier said than done: Republicans have had difficulty agreeing on health care in the past. In April, majority leader Eric Cantor had to pull a bill to support federally funded high-risk pools, one element of some GOP plans, for lack of GOP support. The resulting headlines were brutal: Ross Douthat took the kerfuffle to lament “the Republican health policy trainwreck.” ‎Some opponents of Cantor’s proposal were simply worried that funding the program, established by Obamacare, would muddle GOP attacks on the law, but many others were primarily concerned with funding a federal health program at all.

Health-care-reform legislation at the federal level is something of a minefield for Republican officials, who run into criticisms from the right that the “conservative” solutions are creating new federal programs, increasing spending, or taking power from state governments.

Grace-Marie Turner, the president of the Galen Institute, a conservative health-care think tank, says she has been pushing GOP officials to present solutions, but not in a single, comprehensive bill that would quickly create political problems of its own.

“I actually worry conservatives play into hands of liberals if they try to get behind one bill,” she says.

As Turner sees it, a single bill to deal with the many problems of the health-care market would need to be long — reminiscent of Obamacare’s 2,000-plus pages — cumbersome, and a good way to open Republicans to new political attacks.

Instead, she wants the GOP to rebuild trust with the public by selling the principles of conservative reform, which she outlines as choice, security, portability, and accessibility.

Any conservative reform bill, she says, has to recognize that the current health-care marketplace, even before Obamacare, doesn’t resemble the market for a normal consumer good at all, because of overwhelming government regulations and other factors. Another key issue: How to provide security for individuals with preexisting conditions, whom Obamacare now protects — high-risk pools are the traditional GOP solution to the problem.

Legislation to tackle these problems would necessarily force tough choices: One of the biggest distortions conservatives have to remove from the marketplace, experts say, is the tax exemption for employer-provided health insurance, which could make the bill an easy target for the Left.

On its face, the idea that opponents of current law or a proposed bill should have their own solution seems reasonable, but in D.C.’s trench warfare, it’s not unusual for strategic politicians to avoid giving their opponents the avenue for an attack.

At a 2012 event to celebrate her 25th year in Congress, for example, Democratic minority leader Nancy Pelosi explained that the key to defeating conservative proposals to reform Social Security was for Democrats not to embrace their own reform plan (despite the program’s disastrous finances).

Republicans are heading to a closed-door retreat at the end of the month, where Mulvaney hopes the issue will be discussed. But no matter how Obamacare goes, the GOP may not unify on an approach to health care anytime before at least 2017 — the first time they could have a chance to actually implement their ideas.

— Jonathan Strong is a political reporter for National Review Online.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: healthcare; obamacare
For those who say they want to repeal Obamacare, the answer is OF COURSE.

But what's the alternative for replacing it?

If the answer is "Don't replace it"

Well, that's an argument for the status quo -- A SURE LOSER.

1 posted on 01/10/2014 5:06:54 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Here's one to consider: Tom Price’s Plan to Replace Obamacare
2 posted on 01/10/2014 5:08:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Here’s the general Republican idea ( details to be ironed out ):

http://www.humanevents.com/2014/01/09/republicans-get-it-mainly-right-on-health-care-reform/


3 posted on 01/10/2014 5:10:15 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Republicans are a bunch of individuals with a full spread of opinions and goals. Democrats are stamped from a mold and have carefully crafted, university focus group tested theory’s. It’s truly astonishing that with the likes of Olympia Snow and John McCain that there were zero Republican votes for the ACA.


4 posted on 01/10/2014 5:11:26 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: SeekAndFind
I DONT WANT *ANY* MORE GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE PLANNING

It is government interference that has caused all the problems to begin with.

5 posted on 01/10/2014 5:11:52 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The reason the Democrats want the GOP to present a plan of their own is so they can attack it-pure and simple. If the GOP presented a plan tomorrow, does anyone think that the media wouldn’t nick pick it apart? Complaints would be front page news next to Christie’s traffic jam and Obamacare failures would be relegated to page 6.

The GOP option is to keep hammering away at Obamacare until the Democrats toss in the towel-which they will do. They are losing this fight and they know it.


6 posted on 01/10/2014 5:24:18 AM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I'd say keep the federal government out of health care. However, there are several things that could be done to improve healthcare and reduce costs.

Simple, right? Let the states do their thing. If something is working well, great. If something isn't working well, too bad. At least it is only a fraction of the population, and it will be easier to correct because the failing state system will (hopefully) have several successful state systems to look to as examples. The feds should stay out of it though, we do not need to put all our eggs in one policy basket.

7 posted on 01/10/2014 5:26:19 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: SeekAndFind
There's no *need* for a “plan”.Although imperfect (like everything else that humans do) this nation's health system was pretty damn good...by *far* the best in the world...before Osama Obama came on the scene.Was there room for improvement? Of course.*Nothing* in this country ever has been,or ever will be,perfect.But for the Rats “health care reform” isn't about improving things...it's about payback and power.
8 posted on 01/10/2014 5:38:04 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: HarleyD
The GOP option is to keep hammering away at Obamacare until the Democrats toss in the towel-which they will do. They are losing this fight and they know it.

Absolutely. Since Obamacare is much worse than what existed before, repealing it would be an improvement. Or the Democrats can just wait and watch it (and their electoral prospects) burn. (I favor the "Don't shoot, let them burn." approach by the Republicans.) There is no simple solution to a health care fiasco in the US that has taken over 70 years to evolve.

9 posted on 01/10/2014 5:39:16 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Gay State Conservative

RE: Was there room for improvement? Of course.

There you go, you just argued for a plan.

My point is this -— arguing that we must repeal Obamacare and then simultaneously saying we don’t need to change anything is a LOSER.


10 posted on 01/10/2014 5:47:11 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This the democrat’s red herring. They must defer blame somewhere over Obamacare. So naturally they castigate republicans for a lack of plan.

There are plenty of plans. In fact there’s a whole industry of makers of plans behind the Beltway.

I think the American people have had enough of federal plans. The states are doing just fine without federal involvement.


11 posted on 01/10/2014 5:49:04 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: SeekAndFind
There you go, you just argued for a plan.

You and I must define "plan" differently.I could use a new pair of pants.But I needn't hire 3,000 lawyers to draw up a 2,500 page plan regarding my wardrobe.All I have to do is drive to Macy's,spend ten minutes in their men's department and then pull out my MasterCard.

12 posted on 01/10/2014 5:56:14 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: SeekAndFind

First. ObamaCare must be repealed.

This is too much a liberal canard to not repeal.

Its like the Amnesty Liberals who whine “you can’t deport all the illegals”. Another Liberal Canard to do nothing

First Repeal ObamaCare. We automatically revert to previous system. Then, conservatives can create a real free market approach to health care


13 posted on 01/10/2014 5:56:19 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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To: SeekAndFind

IMO, a general framework is sufficient. Frame the debate...’government has spent 75 years tinkering in healthcare and the result is higher costs and a complicated system for patients and doctors. Obamacare caused more of that on steroids.’

Then, identify a few key objectives...which a pretty consistently included across the spectrum on the right....open up competition across state lines, give consumers more choice, give individuals the same tax benefits as business so families can make their own choices and not be tied to their employer if they choose not to.


14 posted on 01/10/2014 6:09:29 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: SeekAndFind

The RINOs have already pronounced that they want to *keep* the damned thing, just make it *less* onerous to business.

And screw the public. Speaking on behalf of the public, screw them!

“Chamber of Commerce vows to fight ObamaCare *employer* mandate”

“We’re not going to get rid of [the Affordable Care Act] so we’re going to have to find ways to make it work.” — Chamber Of Commerce President and CEO Thomas Donohue


15 posted on 01/10/2014 6:20:21 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (There Is Still A Very Hot War On Terror, Just Not On The MSM. Rantburg.com)
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To: SeekAndFind
Is it time for the GOP to graduate from bashing Obamacare to embracing a solution of its own?

The health care of the USA will be significantly improved just by getting rid of Obamacare! Billions of dollars will be saved, that is, we will stop the wasteful expenditure of billions if not trillions of dollars!

Millions of citizens will have their health care restored. Our health care system will be restored to what it was before this awful law wrecked the industry, if that is possible.

16 posted on 01/10/2014 6:26:53 AM PST by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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To: olezip

Fix Obamacare? Easy. I think Shakespeare said it best.


17 posted on 01/10/2014 6:59:50 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("The GOP fights its own base with far more vigor than it employs in fighting the Dims.")
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To: SeekAndFind

!


18 posted on 01/10/2014 7:26:12 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is why I don’t like to wake up in the morning - let’s gather around the great American bonfire and discuss what solutions Washington has to offer. Middle East need Democracy? Someone is uninsured? Illegals need a path to citizenship? Africa starving and riddled with AIDS? Children being shot? Blacks being incarcerated and failing in school? Banks need free cash? IMF need a hug? Tim Geitner need a job? Ted Kennedy need roses on his grave? Aaaargh!!!!!!


19 posted on 01/10/2014 7:31:54 AM PST by februus
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To: SeekAndFind

This is a HUGE problem for the GOP.

The only reason we have Obamacare, is the GOP is out to lunch of the subject.

Step up GOP. Now. The GOP needs to present an opposing proposal.

Simply saying we are against something isn’t an option.

PRESENT SOMETHING GOP.


20 posted on 01/10/2014 7:34:06 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The problem is NOT that the GOP has no proposals.

They have SEVERAL proposals ( see Posts #2 and #3 above ).

The problem is THEY AREN’T UNIFIED around one coherent plan.

You can’t have several legislators proposing their own plan... this CONFUSES the hell out of people.


21 posted on 01/10/2014 7:42:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Well ok.

The GOP has competing proposals which they haven’t advanced because they cannot agree.

Same result. Get with it GOP.

Get with it.


22 posted on 01/10/2014 7:44:46 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Gay State Conservative

RE: .I could use a new pair of pants.But I needn’t hire 3,000 lawyers to draw up a 2,500 page plan regarding my wardrobe.

The moment you say IMPROVEMENTS are needed, that is an indication that a significant number of people aren’t happy with the way things are.

This of course, calls for a PLAN to IMPROVE the system.

And who says we need a 2500 page plan?

One requirement would be to make the plan simple and understandable. They could probably draft the law in less than 30 pages.


23 posted on 01/10/2014 7:46:48 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Step 1:) Repeal Obamacare

Step 2:) Let the States handle healthcare they way they want to.


24 posted on 01/10/2014 8:08:20 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Step 2:) Let the States handle healthcare they way they want to.

What about Medicaid? The states are CLOSELY linked to it.


25 posted on 01/10/2014 8:09:28 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Medicaid is a federal program with federal control and mandates.

The FedGov should have NOTHING to do with health care.

26 posted on 01/10/2014 8:25:48 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

I would add:

- Health Savings Accounts (pre-tax) that would take care of the out-of-pocket.
- Giving the power back to the hospitals/etc. that will allow them to turn away all non-life-threatening injuries from the E.R. (sniffles...buh-bye, go see your primary/etc.)

Your #1 is the kicker though.


27 posted on 01/10/2014 8:36:47 AM PST by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: SeekAndFind

Get rid of the ACA then do a GOP plan if there is a good one. The RATs want some type of GOP fingerprint on the ACA.


28 posted on 01/10/2014 12:08:34 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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