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Why 6.7 percent unemployment isn't good news: We Keep Ignoring Those Who Have Stopped Looking.
CSM ^ | 01/10/2014 | By Christopher S. Rugaber

Posted on 01/10/2014 7:32:36 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: snowtigger
...with over a million losing their unemployment, they will become part of the reduction of unemployment percentages.

The unemployment rate (the way its calculated) is not affected by whether you start to collect unemployment benefits, continue to collect them, or whether they have expired.

21 posted on 01/10/2014 9:36:20 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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Once these people lose their unemployment, they no longer exist. They are not counted among the unemployed. Unemployment goes down.


22 posted on 01/10/2014 10:31:52 AM PST by snowtigger
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To: snowtigger

Incorrect, incorrect, and not surprisingly, incorrect.


23 posted on 01/10/2014 10:47:33 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy; snowtigger

http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm

Some people think that to get these figures on unemployment, the Government uses the number of persons filing claims for unemployment insurance (UI) benefits under State or Federal Government programs. But some people are still jobless when their benefits run out, and many more are not eligible at all or delay or never apply for benefits. So, quite clearly, UI information cannot be used as a source for complete information on the number of unemployed.

Other people think that the Government counts every unemployed person each month. To do this, every home in the country would have to be contacted—just as in the population census every 10 years. This procedure would cost way too much and take far too long. Besides, people would soon grow tired of having a census taker come to their homes every month, year after year, to ask about job-related activities.

Because unemployment insurance records relate only to persons who have applied for such benefits, and since it is impractical to actually count every unemployed person each month, the Government conducts a monthly sample survey called the Current Population Survey (CPS) to measure the extent of unemployment in the country. The CPS has been conducted in the United States every month since 1940, when it began as a Work Projects Administration project. It has been expanded and modified several times since then. For instance, beginning in 1994, the CPS estimates reflect the results of a major redesign of the survey. (For more information on the CPS redesign, see Chapter 1, “Labor Force Data Derived from the Current Population Survey,” in the BLS Handbook of Methods.)

There are about 60,000 households in the sample for this survey. This translates into approximately 110,000 individuals, a large sample compared to public opinion surveys which usually cover fewer than 2,000 people. The CPS sample is selected so as to be representative of the entire population of the United States. In order to select the sample, all of the counties and county-equivalent cities in the country first are grouped into 2,025 geographic areas (sampling units). The Census Bureau then designs and selects a sample consisting of 824 of these geographic areas to represent each State and the District of Columbia. The sample is a State-based design and reflects urban and rural areas, different types of industrial and farming areas, and the major geographic divisions of each State. (For a detailed explanation of CPS sampling methodology, see Chapter 1, of the BLS Handbook of Methods.)

Every month, one-fourth of the households in the sample are changed, so that no household is interviewed more than 4 consecutive months. This practice avoids placing too heavy a burden on the households selected for the sample. After a household is interviewed for 4 consecutive months, it leaves the sample for 8 months, and then is again interviewed for the same 4 calendar months a year later, before leaving the sample for good. This procedure results in approximately 75 percent of the sample remaining the same from month to month and 50 percent from year to year.

Each month, 2,200 highly trained and experienced Census Bureau employees interview persons in the 60,000 sample households for information on the labor force activities (jobholding and jobseeking) or non-labor force status of the members of these households during the survey reference week (usually the week that includes the 12th of the month). At the time of the first enumeration of a household, the interviewer prepares a roster of the household members, including their personal characteristics (date of birth, sex, race, Hispanic ethnicity, marital status, educational attainment, veteran status, and so on) and their relationships to the person maintaining the household. This information, relating to all household members 15 years of age and over, is entered by the interviewers into laptop computers; at the end of each day’s interviewing, the data collected are transmitted to the Census Bureau’s central computer in Washington, D.C. (The labor force measures in the CPS pertain to individuals 16 years and over.) In addition, a portion of the sample is interviewed by phone through three central data collection facilities. (Prior to 1994, the interviews were conducted using a paper questionnaire that had to be mailed in by the interviewers each month.)

Each person is classified according to the activities he or she engaged in during the reference week. Then, the total numbers are “weighted,” or adjusted to independent population estimates (based on updated decennial census results). The weighting takes into account the age, sex, race, Hispanic ethnicity, and State of residence of the person, so that these characteristics are reflected in the proper proportions in the final estimates.


24 posted on 01/10/2014 11:01:30 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: sten

FRED: http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/

Best source of economic statistics in the world.


25 posted on 01/10/2014 11:03:25 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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To: SeekAndFind
Total participation rate has been declining from close to 20 years. A lot of it is structural driven by demographics (baby boomer retirements). This won't change for a while until the Millennial's get fully into the workforce as they are a larger cohort than Boomers and absolutely dwarf Gen X.


26 posted on 01/10/2014 11:07:32 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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RE: A lot of it is structural driven by demographics (baby boomer retirements).

We really need a more accurate indicator to tell us how good or how bad the employment situation is.

For those who aren’t in the workforce, we should also weed out those that are RETIRED ( i.e. on social security ). These aren’t discouraged workers ( people who we should take into account in the data ) anymore.


27 posted on 01/10/2014 11:32:18 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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