Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Insurers under fire as Obamacare kicks in (just like obama planned)
LATimes ^

Posted on 01/10/2014 8:00:04 AM PST by chessplayer

Obamacare's biggest problem isn't the troubled HealthCare.gov website anymore.

Consumers are easing up on criticism of government exchanges and turning their frustration and fury toward some of the nation's biggest health insurers. All too often, new policyholders say, the companies can't confirm coverage, won't answer basic questions, and haven't issued identification numbers needed to fill prescriptions or get medical care.

Day after day, people say, they contact insurance company call centers waiting hours at a time with no response. Meantime, insurers have already taken many customers' payments for coverage intended to take effect Jan. 1.

But without proof of insurance, patients are having to pay hundreds of dollars out of pocket for medications and doctor visits, if they can afford it. Insurance agents say dismal service has become commonplace across many companies.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obamacareenrollment; obamacareinsurers; proofofinsurance
Things working out for obozo and the donks as planned. We're fooling ourselves if we think this will hurt the donks in the election. The insurance companies will take all the heat for rising premiums, etc.
1 posted on 01/10/2014 8:00:05 AM PST by chessplayer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: chessplayer

Sorry to disagree but with “If you like your Doctor and your plan... you can keep them... period” and “We have to pass it to see what is in it”... will not allow the demon party to escape... not this time! The media cannot hide the pain and destruction from the people that are experiencing it.


2 posted on 01/10/2014 8:05:18 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: chessplayer

It certainly is a familiar theme with the MSM. My question, wasn’t the purpose of the exchanges to promote rate competition? Are the admitting failure?


3 posted on 01/10/2014 8:07:43 AM PST by fhayek
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: chessplayer
Consumers are easing up on criticism of government exchanges and turning their frustration and fury toward some of the nation's biggest health insurers.

Being a crony capitalist doesn't prevent you from being a sucker with a knife in your back.

4 posted on 01/10/2014 8:11:09 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: chessplayer

Let’s get back to basics:

With a deductible of over $6000, and much higher co-pays, the average medical patient in the USA at the beginning of the “covered year’ will have to pay all of their early costs out of their pockets, anyway.

Getting such payments onto your account records will be the next major hurdle.

Mark my words.


5 posted on 01/10/2014 8:11:31 AM PST by ridesthemiles
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FReepers
Obamacare Isn't Dead
Don't Be Fooled
Single Payer Will Save It


Click The Pic To Donate

Support FR, Donate Monthly If You Can

6 posted on 01/10/2014 8:12:56 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LibLieSlayer

“Sorry to disagree but with “If you like your Doctor and your plan... you can keep them... period” and “We have to pass it to see what is in it”... will not allow the demon party to escape... not this time! The media cannot hide the pain and destruction from the people that are experiencing it.”

I’m with the first poster. When you have a corrupt, complicit media and a stupid public, it’s hard to lose. Throw in the fact that the GOP-e really wants the power that obamacare grants them, and therefore, won’t hit the issue like the should, and it’s hard to imagine this costing the Dems.


7 posted on 01/10/2014 8:14:02 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: chessplayer

Yeah, those greedy insurance companies. But to paraphrase Milton Friedman, Did the insurance companies become greedy this year?


8 posted on 01/10/2014 8:14:43 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: chessplayer

“Come! Come and join the Democrat party! We care about you. We’re on your side! We’ll help you. We’re your friends! Your soul? Oh, don’t worry about that. You don’t need it. We’re here for you. Free money! Free food! Free healthcare! And we ask so little in return. Yes, I do have a limousine and a mansion, but that’s only to help get the free money for you. I don’t enjoy them. Come! Come and join the Democrat party!”


9 posted on 01/10/2014 8:15:13 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: chessplayer
Well, when the government kept delaying the final signup date but still expected the insurance company to start coverage on January 1 you are going to have problems. Even without the government, would you expect to be able to sign up (but not even pay for yet) a policy at 11:59pm on Christmas Eve and get you insurance card by January 1. Now have millions thousands dozens of new accounts all crammed on that same day.
10 posted on 01/10/2014 8:16:10 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: chessplayer

The Obama Administration Culture is based on lies, persecution of political opponents, and violating the US Constitution.


11 posted on 01/10/2014 8:16:24 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: chessplayer
That is easy to imagine but none of that is going to stop the declining disapproval of Obamacare.

Not surprisingly the progressives say :”None of these problems would happen under Medicaid for ALL as Medicaid is loved by everyone who gets it and doesnt depend on greedy insurers.”

Of course there's a few flaws in this ?
Can you guess what they are?

12 posted on 01/10/2014 8:26:53 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LibLieSlayer

I agree.

The problem for Dems here is that the negative impacts of what they thought would be a shallow and incremental slope to single payer are happening BANG BANG BANG!

To fast for anyone to escape the conclusion that the problems are with anything other than the law itself.

The Dems own panicked reactions belie the danger they know they are facing. There’s no way that Dingy Harry would have ever pulled the trigger on the nuclear option, for instance, if he thought there was a chance his side would retain the Senate next year.


13 posted on 01/10/2014 8:27:12 AM PST by tanknetter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: chessplayer

Why would healthcare insurance industry (which opposed Hillarycare before) came on board with Obamacare? They thought they can write off the loss (plus ‘interest’) by absorbing the uninsured to the tax payers, after all Obama guaranteed it, didn’t it?

Any other industry CEOs and leaders taking notes? Next time Dems / Obama set sights on you, this is the ‘object lesson’ to take home.


14 posted on 01/10/2014 8:33:14 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: chessplayer

Industry officials say the disastrous launch of the federal exchange and the ever-changing rules from the Obama administration have complicated their job and contributed to the backlog.

Something the article says that only a THINKING person will understand.

“Health plans have gone above and beyond to protect consumers from disruptions caused by the ongoing problems with HealthCare.gov” said Robert Zirkelbach, spokesman for America’s Health Insurance Plans. “The last-minute changes to deadlines and rules have made the process more complicated and time-consuming.”

So....it’s I’m not sure why anyone with 2 functioning brain cells could blame any insurer when the rules change about as often as Obama changes his panties.


15 posted on 01/10/2014 8:45:54 AM PST by sevinufnine (A moderately bad man knows he is not very good. A thoroughly bad man thinks he's alright. C.S. Lewis)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: chessplayer

Yep. They are getting ready for the final “solution”. The one every commie wants.


16 posted on 01/10/2014 8:46:38 AM PST by Phillyred
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Graewoulf

Well said. Short and sweet.


17 posted on 01/10/2014 8:51:24 AM PST by jersey117
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: jersey117

The Obama Administration Culture is based on lies, persecution of political opponents, and violating the US Constitution.

Under the leadership of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Speaker of the House John Boehner, the GOP Establishment Congressional Culture is based on becoming more like the Obama Administration Culture.

By design, the GOP Establishment has become a doormat speed bump for Obamacrat politicians on the very wide, and well lighted Highway to European Socialism.

Without the capable cave-in expertise of McConnell and Boehner, the successful fundamental transformation of America into a weak, financially devastated, morally corrupt, unreliable, former World Power would not have been possible.

To those US Senators and House members who still support McConnell and Boehner, remember Einstein’s definition of insanity:

“INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS.”


18 posted on 01/10/2014 8:52:24 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: chessplayer

Slimes reporting according to the script, like the good little toads they are.


19 posted on 01/10/2014 8:54:13 AM PST by skeeter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: chessplayer

The mainstream media (LA Times, for example) will now do all they can to shift the blame for the Obamacare mess to the insurance companies. Never mind the fact that the insurance companies have been subject to endless last minute rule changes and have received bad data (or no data) from the Obamacare website. Sadly, the stupid folks who signed up for Obamacare are all too willing to help shift the blame.


20 posted on 01/10/2014 8:56:17 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: chessplayer

could these complaints form the basis for class action lawsuits?


21 posted on 01/10/2014 9:01:28 AM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: brownsfan

One thing about it... we are all going to have a ringside seat to see.


22 posted on 01/10/2014 9:02:26 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: tanknetter

It is going to destroy them slowly but they can’t stop it now... the dims will pay more than they ever could know.


23 posted on 01/10/2014 9:03:33 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: chessplayer

This is the mortgage crisis all over again, the government demanded that people who couldn’t afford them be giving loans then the system collapsed and the lenders blamed

this is identical ...the government is demanding people be insured at an unsustainable rate ..system will collapse the people blame the insurers and the government swoops in and take over


24 posted on 01/10/2014 9:22:52 AM PST by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ridesthemiles
With a deductible of over $6000, and much higher co-pays, the average medical patient in the USA at the beginning of the “covered year’ will have to pay all of their early costs out of their pockets, anyway.

Yep. Yesterday I was at my insurance agent's office for some business related stuff. I checked on health insurance in the private market for a family of four: 900/month premiums and a 12,000.00 deductible. I laughed and walked out.

25 posted on 01/10/2014 9:26:53 AM PST by gopno1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: brownsfan

“Throw in the fact that the GOP-e really wants the power that obamacare grants them, and therefore, won’t hit the issue like the should, and it’s hard to imagine this costing the Dems.”

This is the real problem. There is plenty of “political ammo” with which to tar the RATs, particularly Obamacare, but the GOPe would rather loose this watershed election than give any ground to conservatives. The Chamber of Commerce doesn’t give a $hit about anything but continuing to keep their GOPe lapdogs in the Congress. The way they operate, “business” is a bad word. “Business interests” today are nothing like true Capitalism.


26 posted on 01/10/2014 9:27:37 AM PST by vette6387
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: chessplayer

It’s not the fault of the insurers; it’s the fault of Obamacare.


27 posted on 01/10/2014 9:46:53 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson