Posted on 01/10/2014 8:28:53 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Which question?
Many people who use (and abuse) heroin and alcohol are damaged people from various forms of abuse and neglect that they’re not even aware of. Most of them aren’t aware because of their notions of “normal”. You want to throw them away.
The numbers who recover and stay clean are small, BUT those who do positively influence an average of six other addicts or alcoholics in ways that even good professionals can’t do.
“Throw in a high probability of arrest and a long prison sentence and it is not worth the risk.”
The higher the risk, the higher the price they can demand for their product, until it is enough to justify taking the risk. You will never eliminate such a profitable industry as long as it can stay profitable.
You’re welcome. It saddens me to see so many of our fellow citizens who feel the need to escape reality. The drug dealers are cruel to aid this behavior. The Democrats are cruel to aid this behavior. The drug dealers and the Democrats, by profiting from human misery, have, in my belief, turned their back on God. This is, in my understanding, the one unpardonable sin. So, while they may claim to be Christians, they have arrogantly turned their face from God and their actions betray them.
It is time to quit ignoring those in pain and to start to heal them with The Word.
I understand. I worked at 2 veterinary hospitals. Though most of my coworkers were fine people, I’m sorry to say that there were a couple of issues with the controlled substance safe, resulting in immediate terminations. The second place had a very fancy, high tech electronic safe that was also in plain view of everybody.
We’ve got a diabetic cat. I wish the insulin we buy from the vet was as cheap as the Vicodin I get from the pharmacy.
I’ve heard that Vermont has a large population percentage of trust-funders, people who’ve inheirited wealth that they never worked for, and whose only job each month is going to the mailbox to pick up their dividend checks. They are Green Mountain Green-Scene libs driving Subarus and Prius while voting for Howard Dean and Bernie Sanders. Hard to blame them for wanting to stay stoned all the time in that environment, even if it is of their own making.
I think that catologues like Foster and Smith have pet meds. Things like insulin that arent controlled, I mean.Veterinarians discourage this for obvious reasons. They used to make a big deal of getting Advantage. I would avoid online sellers that might be unsafe Chinese counterfeits or something. Then shipping might offset the savings. Talk to somebody involved in pet rescue. They know a lot of secrets to saving money on things like this.
I haven’t belonged to Costco for many years but they might have stuff like this.
Thanks! I might look into that. He’s a pretty old cat. We might not need to buy it many more times :(
Actually, I am. If he had died as a result of drugs, so be it.
So a someone who NEVER did Heroin can be a Heroin addict?
Brett Farve was a Heroin addict because he abused Vicodin?
Based on what you say I could call him a recovering Heroin addict.
If one opiate is no different than the other why does the FDA have different Drug SCHEDULES for them?
“The higher the risk, the higher the price they can demand for their product”
The price can only go up a limited amount. Most drug addicts do not have an unlimited source of funds. The higher the price, the fewer people whose lives are destroyed by drugs. The higher the price, fewer drug related crimes and drug related costs to society. The higher the price, the fewer families that suffer from a drug addicted family member. The more drug dealers in prison with their assets seized the fewer new people will get involved.
Maybe you don’t eliminate 100% of the problem, you eliminate 90% or more.
“So a someone who NEVER did Heroin can be a Heroin addict?”
They can be addicted to it, yes, certainly. If you are addicted to ANY form of opiates, you are addicted to them all. There are slight chemical differences between them, but from a functional standpoint, they affect your brain chemistry exactly the same way, and really only vary in potency.
You probably wouldn’t call someone who hadn’t done heroin a “recovering heroin addict”, but if you put heroin in front of them, while they were in withdrawal from vicodin, well, don’t expect that heroin to be there when you get back.
“If one opiate is no different than the other why does the FDA have different Drug SCHEDULES for them?”
Good question, but one that you will have to ask the FDA.
World trade in heroin really is a mystery, ain’t it?
Don’t judge it as “corruption”; see it as “regulatory capture”, which is normal...
Sure, there is a limit to how much people can pay for a drug, but with the most addictive drugs, addicts don’t limit themselves to their own budget. If they don’t have money to pay for the drug, they will go out and do anything to get the money. So, I think your idea that you can eliminate 90% of use this way is very optimistic. Maybe you can reduce it 20 or 30%, but I doubt much more than that.
Well, in your case you maybe weren’t very heavily addicted, or just have strong willpower? Some people can develop addictions and manage to resist temptation to relapse fairly easily, but that isn’t the case for most addicts.
Also, when opiates are legitimately being used to treat pain, their addictive effect can be less pronounced. So, if you really need that vicodin to alleviate symptoms, it may not trigger much dependency, so long as you don’t overdo it.
Most of the serious addicts I’ve known get the vast majority of their money through theft, so in some ways the do have unlimited resources, if the price goes up they just steal more, which means you get MORE drug related crimes and costs to society.
We've also got at least one othe person, just on this thread, with about the same experience. You might want to re-think that "once you've been addicted to any opiate, you're forever addicted to all of them" theory.
And how does whatever the number of non-functional opiate addicts is, compare with the number of non-functional alcoholics in the state?
“If they don’t have money to pay for the drug, they will go out and do anything to get the money.”
Even if addicts quote “do anything” to get the money they are limited in their ability to get money. You are very unrealistic in your belief that drug addicts have some enormous ability to make money.
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