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Experts slam DOJ letter telling schools to implement race-based punishments
The Daily Caller ^ | 10 Jan 2014 | Robby Soave

Posted on 01/10/2014 9:47:53 AM PST by mandaladon

Education experts decried a new memo from the Departments of Justice and Education that instructs public schools throughout the country to cease punishing disruptive students if they fall into certain racial categories, such as black or Hispanic.

The letter, released on Wednesday, states that it is a violation of federal law for schools to punish certain races more than others, even if those punishments stem from completely neutral rules. For example, equal numbers of black students and white students should be punished for tardiness, even if black students are more often tardy than white students. (RELATED: DOJ to schools: It’s racist to punish students for behaving badly, texting in class)

Here is the relevant section of the letter:

“Schools also violate Federal law when they evenhandedly implement facially neutral policies and practices that, although not adopted with the intent to discriminate, nonetheless have an unjustified effect of discriminating against students on the basis of race. Examples of policies that can raise disparate impact concerns include policies that impose mandatory suspension, expulsion, or citation (e.g., ticketing or other fines or summonses) upon any student who commits a specified offense — such as being tardy to class, being in possession of a cellular phone, being found insubordinate, acting out, or not wearing the proper school uniform.” The Daily Caller asked several education experts to weigh in the letter’s recommendations; all three raised serious concerns about the ramifications of changing school disciplinary procedures to engineer equal outcomes across the races.

Joy Pullmann, managing editor of School Reform News, told TheDC that any notion of equal racial discipline is obviously flawed.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: education; holder; mandatoryprofiling; obama; racialprofiling; racistholder; schooldiscipline
“It’s ridiculous to assign quotas for discipline based on race,” she said. “If we did that, for one thing, we’d have to believe that Asian students are severely under-disciplined.”................Best argument against this bias policy change.
1 posted on 01/10/2014 9:47:53 AM PST by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

This is reflective of Holders attitude in general ,, and should be used in a suit of some kind against the DOJ , at the very least it should be used as a political club against the admin.. how absurd.

I wonder if we have any representatives willing to take this on...


2 posted on 01/10/2014 9:52:24 AM PST by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: mandaladon

New rules: School Punishments are only for Asians and Whites. When blacks or Hispanics (or any mix of this good blood) do misdeeds, they are to be given Popsicles. And then find a white or Asian student to punish.


3 posted on 01/10/2014 9:56:04 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: mandaladon

Don’t punish them, execute them.


4 posted on 01/10/2014 10:02:24 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: mandaladon

If this brilliant new ObamaPlan works in schools it should be applied immediately to more serious crimes like rape and murder.

For example, once a Black or Hispanic murder or rape yearly quota is reached these crimes should not be punished for the remainder of the calendar year. Quotas will reset automatically on January 1st of each year.

Although increases in murders and rapes are likely the improvement in race relations will more than compensate.


5 posted on 01/10/2014 10:02:26 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: mandaladon

How many Travon situations will this create?
Had the school turned him over to the police with stolen items
perhaps he would be alive today. He got the message: do the crime and don’t do the time. Except ...

Situation won’t change until responsibility swings back to parents. Kid does the crime and parent does the time.

However parenting responsibility was killed with Roe v Wade.
Parental responsibility starts at conception.
Anything else and you get what we see today, kids gone wild.


6 posted on 01/10/2014 10:04:03 AM PST by jonose
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To: mandaladon

Each class should create a roster of white kids, and beat the living crap out of one of them every day. When the crackers have received their just punishment expel them, but only after they’ve run a gauntlet of happy, gentle, studious black kids. Schools that don’t have enough evil white kids can use Jews and orientals, or trouble making kids from India. `Beat them all until the black kids jump for joy.


7 posted on 01/10/2014 10:05:40 AM PST by pallis
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To: All

This has been going on unofficially, for decades.

It all started with the “zero tolerance” policies for fighting or violence. In the old days, the instigator would be punished and the passive participant who defended himself would get a quick lecture and be sent back to class.

Now, they won’t objectively punish the person who initiated the fisticuffs. Even the defender is equally punished.

This was an end run on the “unequal” statistics showing minorities to be more violent.


8 posted on 01/10/2014 10:13:17 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Ted Cruz...2016-24 ...A New Conservative Era)
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To: mandaladon

Yes the USA actually elected these sick freaks. Twice.


9 posted on 01/10/2014 10:15:08 AM PST by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: mandaladon

This is sure to help race relations. Blacks apparently can’t be responsible citizens in Holder’s eyes so don’t even try.


10 posted on 01/10/2014 10:15:45 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: rbmillerjr

if the defender ‘wins’ they get harder treatment than the attacker.


11 posted on 01/10/2014 10:15:50 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: mandaladon

Murder is bad... if whites do it...


12 posted on 01/10/2014 10:17:51 AM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: mandaladon

Eric WithHolder, the Upholder of the Civil Rights Act is in violation of the Civil Rights Act. He should be prosecuted for his race-based directives.


13 posted on 01/10/2014 10:22:04 AM PST by Obama_Is_A_Feminist
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To: mandaladon

In the first place there is no real discipline for kids now days. Back when I went to school swats were given as discipline. And you didn’t want the fact that you got swats getting back to your parents because double jeopardy was alive and well. Our class rooms were very well mannered. If you wanted to learn there were no distractions and if you didn’t you were probably the oldest kid in your class the next year.


14 posted on 01/10/2014 10:30:05 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: mandaladon

If there is anyone in the administration of Obama more radical than he is, its Eric Holder. A complete racist, hard core Marxist radical determined to keep knee grows out of jail and trouble at all costs, regardless of their actions. He couldnt care less about how black kids act in school, how disruptive they are, how violent they are, they can not be disciplined except when whites and Asians are as well. School integration is the second worst mistake we ever made in this country, next to bringing Africans to this country in the first place. The latter will eventually destroy this country.


15 posted on 01/10/2014 10:37:53 AM PST by armydawg505
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To: Yaelle
Yaelle:" New rules: School Punishments are only for Asians and Whites.
When blacks or Hispanics (or any mix of this good blood) do misdeeds, they are to be given Popsicles.
And then find a white or Asian student to punish.

This new FEDERAL program should be called :
"LEVELING THE FIELD IN COMMON CORE - FERAL RACE BASICS "
subtitled 'Martin Luther KING was wrong, CHARACTER DOESN'T MATTER , it is all about color of one's skin'.

16 posted on 01/10/2014 11:01:46 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Yeah,seriously. Why don’t these race obsessors come out and say it:

MARTIN LUTHER KING WAS WRONG.

They should rename all those streets. If they don’t believe in his dream, stop worshiping him. They are not happy with content of their character. It is only about skin color.


17 posted on 01/10/2014 11:34:12 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: mandaladon

Delicious. Keep it up Mr. Holder, and common sense Americans are going to rise up and say, ENOUGH.


18 posted on 01/10/2014 12:03:28 PM PST by July4
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To: mandaladon
“Kids of the favored race know they can get away with more, so they misbehave more, and the well-behaved kids lose out on instruction because the teacher is busy trying to manage unruly students she can’t send to the principal’s office,” said Pullmann.

Holder's a fool.

19 posted on 01/10/2014 12:08:39 PM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: Yaelle
Why don’t these race obsessors come out and say it: MARTIN LUTHER KING WAS WRONG. They should rename all those streets. If they don’t believe in his dream, stop worshiping him.

Ding, ding, ding... We have a thread winnah!

20 posted on 01/10/2014 12:10:46 PM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: mandaladon
such as being tardy to class, being in possession of a cellular phone, being found insubordinate, acting out, or not wearing the proper school uniform

OK, so black and Hispanic students, due to their race, cannot get to class on time, are more likely to mess with their cell phone than pay attention, are more likely to be insubordinate and act out, and can't seem to dress appropriately.

huh?

21 posted on 01/10/2014 12:11:37 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: mandaladon

***to cease punishing disruptive students***

Long gone are the days when we were told to “Bend over and grab your ankles.”


22 posted on 01/10/2014 12:15:12 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: InterceptPoint
If this brilliant new ObamaPlan works in schools it should be applied immediately to more serious crimes like rape and murder.

I know you probably meant this in jest, but after I thought about it I wouldn't be surprised if this is the real intent. Exempting blacks and hispanics from discipline in school is the "foot in the door" to an expanded policy of quotas for the judiciary. You can't start a serious riot without some serious rioters.

23 posted on 01/10/2014 12:36:33 PM PST by DeltaZulu
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To: mandaladon
For example, equal numbers of black students and white students should be punished for tardiness, even if black students are more often tardy than white students.

The black truants can hold a lottery for who gets punished.

24 posted on 01/10/2014 1:08:56 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Mike Darancette

Or they could play Rochambeau.


25 posted on 01/10/2014 1:11:44 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: mandaladon

Some animals are more equal than others.


26 posted on 01/10/2014 1:25:07 PM PST by READINABLUESTATE ("If guns cause crime, there must be something wrong with mine." -Ted Nugent)
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To: mandaladon

I’ve mentioned elsewhere here on Free Republic that more and more our own Federal Government is trying to “push” us into a situation where CW II or martial law occurs.

I see this as just another “push” only this one is aimed directly at our children. Consider what will occur when the father/mother has been laid off, refused assistance because they are too ‘white’. Can’t find a job, the food is running low and the landlord has eviction papers nailed to the front door and then... Their son/daughter is ‘knockout gamed’ into the hospital and might have brain damage.

All of the buttons have been pushed... It’s time for the parent to ‘lose it’ and go hunting...

Just what the DOJ and the Feds want, either someone to make into an ‘example’ or for race riots to break out in response.

Just think about it people, just think about it.


27 posted on 01/10/2014 1:27:42 PM PST by The Working Man
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To: mandaladon
This is sickening...and to think this was vetted by the DOJ as appropriate and witin the law...

Holder should be removed from office...he has effectively shown he is a bigot and a racist....and not worthy of the office he holds....
28 posted on 01/10/2014 2:16:23 PM PST by PigRigger
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To: PigRigger
Holder should be removed from office...

How?

29 posted on 01/10/2014 2:29:23 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: mandaladon

Minority students in class are being
encouraged to talk back to their teachers
and to point to teachers’ inherent racism
as a reason for their incurring discipline.

The left (always racist) has continued
to push the case for outright race and
class warfare in order to bring down the
system and put themselves in the position
of absolute control in society.


30 posted on 01/10/2014 7:27:12 PM PST by WKTimpco
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To: pallis

“Each class should create a roster of white kids, and beat the living crap out of one of them every day. When the crackers have received their just punishment expel them, but only after they’ve run a gauntlet of happy, gentle, studious black kids. Schools that don’t have enough evil white kids can use Jews and orientals, or trouble making kids from India. `Beat them all until the black kids jump for joy.”


Pure fantasy.


31 posted on 01/10/2014 11:52:43 PM PST by ourworldawry
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To: Yaelle

That bottom-lines the whole thing. They all hate MLK.


32 posted on 01/12/2014 10:34:04 PM PST by Olog-hai
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