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Florida's largest gun dealer bans gun rentals in wake of suicides
Orlando Sentinel ^ | 01/10/2014 | Henry Pierson Curtis

Posted on 01/10/2014 4:11:51 PM PST by aimhigh

Shoot Straight, Florida's largest independent gun-shop chain, has stopped renting guns to prevent its eight Florida ranges from becoming suicide parlors. Khaled Akkawi, founder of the Apopka-based chain, made the decision last month after the latest suicides at one his gun ranges.

"We've had enough," Akkawi said Friday. "They've been increasing real fast and the one common denominator — everyone is done with a rental gun."

(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; gunrentals; shootstraight; suicide; suicides
I suppose this means the Obama misery index is up.
1 posted on 01/10/2014 4:11:51 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh

The store sucks so bad people will rent a gun to end their misery.

But seriously this place sells a lot of guns but don’t you dare try and get help after the purchase.


2 posted on 01/10/2014 4:14:23 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
But seriously this place sells a lot of guns but don't you dare try and get help after the purchase.

I have bought several guns at Shoot Straight at I-4 @ 301, never had a problem...before or after...purchase

I will say they are a bit expensive compared to the several other guns shops within 15 miles of them...especially ammo

3 posted on 01/10/2014 4:31:27 PM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: aimhigh
Probably per order of their insurance carrier.We went once to Smith & Wesson's public range (indoors) which is located right near their factory.It's amazing (to me,at least) how strictly they enforce their numerous safety regulations.While there we saw a shooter ejected for having violated one of the rules.You can't be too careful I guess.
4 posted on 01/10/2014 4:33:10 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Popman

I had trouble with a brand new rifle I purchased there. It wouldn’t seat cartridges and some standard magpul magazines wouldn’t seat.

I went back and the sales guys couldn’t help. The gun smith did his absolute best to be a complete ass. I complained and they were ‘oh well’. Never got the problem fixed there.

I purchased several guns from them but will never set foot in their store(s) again.


5 posted on 01/10/2014 4:49:38 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Popman

Sorry, the rifle wouldn’t chamber, not seat.


6 posted on 01/10/2014 4:50:39 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: aimhigh

Ran a pistol instructor’s class in Orlando some years ago; used their range for the prequals and the student teaching. They were expensive, but treated us OK. Just OK.

After selling the range time, on the day we showed up they scared the hell out of us - “we’re pretty busy; don’t know if we can fit you in.” After some whining, they relented.

Can’t screw up the local gun store troll coffee and donuts, war store spinning “instructor”, don’t ya know.


7 posted on 01/10/2014 4:59:40 PM PST by QBFimi (-..o.-.o..o-.o-.-ooo//o///o./.o.ooo///o.../o./o./..o/o..o/.o.ooo)
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To: aimhigh

Clean up on aisle 6!


8 posted on 01/10/2014 5:17:26 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
i remember this chain.
a few years ago, a mother killed her son in there and then herself with a rental.

you can google for the liveleak video...

9 posted on 01/10/2014 5:22:49 PM PST by VAFreedom (maybe i should take a nap before work)
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To: Popman

Checkout Family Firearms in Valrico. Marco and Jessica are good folks. (http://familyfirearms.net/)


10 posted on 01/10/2014 5:30:26 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: tbpiper

Theres one in Riverview too, much smaller but great service.


11 posted on 01/10/2014 5:32:11 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: aimhigh

Self Medication under bo-care.

Gunshop owner could apply to ACA for re-imbursment.


12 posted on 01/10/2014 5:33:57 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: aimhigh
“Would you like the extended warranty with that?”
13 posted on 01/10/2014 7:15:18 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama phones= Bread and circuits.)
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To: aimhigh

Should stop renting the ammo ...


14 posted on 01/10/2014 7:27:13 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: aimhigh

Jeez, at least buy the gun - but then pay with a check.


15 posted on 01/10/2014 8:47:23 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: driftdiver

I’ve dropped about $20K over the years at the Apopka store and have done fine. Only problem I had was with a Kahr PM40 that liked to stovepipe and feeding issues. They suggested I give it to them and let them send it back to Kahr to get fixed.

My experience with their customer service was great! Though when I got the Kahr back I didn’t even bother with it. Just put it up for sale.


16 posted on 01/10/2014 8:53:50 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: Gay State Conservative

My county runs a pistol range and they have had two people rent guns and then off themselves in the lobby behind the firing line. I wish they would stop renting guns, as well. The problem with public ranges is just that, the public.


17 posted on 01/10/2014 10:28:42 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: driftdiver

Weird. Don’t the manufacturers warranty against that kind of failure of new weapons?


18 posted on 01/10/2014 10:39:00 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The manufacturer steered me back to this place. It was a core15 are. About the only gun I’ve ever purchased that I regret.


19 posted on 01/10/2014 10:49:20 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

They won’t get another penny from me.


20 posted on 01/10/2014 10:50:14 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: aimhigh

The new in place to do yourself in is to jump off the new Hoover Dam bypass bridge
A giant leap of faith?


21 posted on 01/11/2014 2:14:56 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: driftdiver
They won’t get another penny from me.

Understood. I'm that way too with stores that screw me over.

22 posted on 01/11/2014 3:49:20 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: driftdiver

Well, a revolting development. I hope you alerted them that this vendor of theirs was giving you the bum’s rush and that you suggest they be advised to improve their service or else be passed over as a vendor. That might improve things for a whole lot of people.


23 posted on 01/11/2014 4:19:27 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Sometimes that’s the only thing that can be done.

I’d still try to get the product manufacturer involved, first. Just because you are a fan of guns does not mean you need to answer every problem by shooting the one with the problem down, so to speak.


24 posted on 01/11/2014 4:22:15 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Tried, Core15, had never heard of it but got it about a year ago with the rush on AR15s. The shootstraight store recommended it so I bought the rifle.

Called and emailed the company, again Core15, with zero response.

Which is why I’m talking about it here.


25 posted on 01/11/2014 4:55:52 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

The background is helpful. This may bespeak trouble with Core15, and just speculating, and I would not know for sure so don’t treat it like it is sure, the dealer might have been snotty because they were thinking “oh woe, here’s another one of those bum guns and they want us to be their hero for them.”


26 posted on 01/11/2014 4:58:14 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: driftdiver

Which really isn’t a helpful attitude on the dealer’s part, but it could be understandable. The dealer might hate Core15 too, but have some kind of contract to have to sell their stuff until a certain date, or an inventory they want to get their investment back on. And if they badmouth Core15 to their customers, now Core15 is on their back... no win from their point of view.

I’d say see if you can speak with the manager and find out if that’s the case with Core15 guns. The fact that a new gun would not properly seat the ammo, or whatever a gun is expected to do in operation, is awful suspicious to me. That’s shoddy. Guns are supposed to shoot and because shooting well is a safety issue in more ways than one, it seems a production problem to me.


27 posted on 01/11/2014 5:03:26 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The chambering issue was an easy fix. That it won’t seat some magpul magazines speaks to a production issue. The magazines won’t latch and fall out.

Like I said, its the only gun I regret having purchased. That shootstraight wont stand behind their recommendations speaks to the store.

FWIW they’ve had a number of accidental shootings at their indoor ranges. Besides these gun rental suicides. Possibly because they don’t supervise very well and the lanes are really narrow but thats just speculation on my part.


28 posted on 01/11/2014 5:19:20 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Nothing worse than a trip to a gun store where the people treat you like crap unless it looks like you have a load of cash to spend.
There is a big gun store near Washington PA.....they are the rudest, snobby and boorish people. Whenever asked to where buy a gun, I steer them away from them.
Then there is a place Called Bravermans in Wilkinbug outside of Pittsburgh. The nicest people I ever dealt with. They always get my nod whenever someone needs a pistol.


29 posted on 01/11/2014 7:28:11 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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