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No Room in Polite Society for Anti-Catholic Contempt
US News / Blog ^ | January 9, 2014 | Dr. Grazie Pozo Christie

Posted on 01/10/2014 5:28:10 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o

Justice Sonia Sotomayor's recent ruling, issuing a stay on the fines for the Little Sisters of the Poor, struck some people in violent ways. One blogger, Jamie Stiehm writing for U.S. News, seems to think that Sotomayor outed herself as that most crass and small minded of people: a Catholic! This was certainly not a predictable outcome in the minds of those progressives who celebrated the elevation of the first "wise Latina" to the highest court in the land. She was supposed to stay on the reservation, of course, voting reliably to uphold the foundations of liberal orthodoxy, whenever they were threatened.

In the progressive worldview, contraception and abortion are to women what breathing and eating are to men: absolute necessities of life. Waivers are being handed out right and left for Obamacare victims, but no waivers for nuns. And if Justice Sotomayor stands up for the religious liberty of these noble women, well "she's just a good Catholic girl," in the snarky tone of Stiehm's blog post. In her opinion, that court is now the "Catholic Supreme Court," and it hates women.

In a rant of old fashioned anti-Catholic bigotry, of which there is a long history in the United States, we learn several scary things. "Catholics often try to impose their beliefs on you, me, public discourse and institutions. Especially if 'you' are female." And that when Thomas Jefferson championed the separation of church and state, he was "thinking particularly of pernicious Rome." Rome remains pernicious, apparently. The Little Sisters, who, by the way, take vows of poverty, chastity and obedience in order to slave their lives away taking care of the indigent elderly, are terribly wily, and "seemingly innocent." And the big bad Catholic archbishops have painted a bullseye on the foreheads American females: "Their principal target for years on end has been squelching women and girls."

The kind of contempt the author spreads on the heads of Catholics, if written about any other group, would have her immediately barred from polite society, and justifiably. In her mind, there is a noble sisterhood, comprising at least her and Nancy Pelosi. Women who disagree with them are not sisters, though they may be nuns. As a wise Latina myself, I feel very sorry for Justice Sotomayor. She thought she was being celebrated for herself and her achievements in the face of societal barriers that should have kept a Hispanic woman down. It turns out she was just a token after all. Now that she has sided with religious liberty over liberal pieties, she has been unceremoniously dumped from the sisterhood.

I think that Justice Sotomayor understands something that Ms. Stiehm may never get. Governments that wish to preserve a truly pluralistic society must act with great delicacy and even tenderness when it comes to the conscientious scruples of its citizens. It is not necessary to share those scruples or even understand them. Progressives believe with all their soul that women's sexual liberty, untrammeled by copays or unwanted children, trumps any other "good," including religious freedom. They are free to propose that idea in the public square, and they do so with all the power of Hollywood, MTV and higher education behind them. They have the administration on their side, most newspapers and most TV stations. But they don't have most of the citizens of this country, they don't have the Catholic Church and they may have lost Justice Sotomayor.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anticatholicbigotry; birthcontrol; catholic; obamacare; sotomayor; stiehm
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Bigotry comes out in the open and shows its face and surprise, it's ugly and stupid.

Thanks for defending the trrth, Dr. Grazie Pozo Christie!

1 posted on 01/10/2014 5:28:10 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o

RE: “anti-Catholic bigotry, of which there is a long history in the United States”

Indeed. Just peruse the religion forum here on FR and you can see it in full display.


2 posted on 01/10/2014 5:38:17 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
No Room in Polite Society for Anti-Catholic Contempt No Room in Polite Society for Anti-Christian or Anti-Jewish Contempt either
3 posted on 01/10/2014 5:43:26 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Arthur McGowan; mc5cents; RichInOC; Prince of Space; JoeFromSidney; TNMountainMan; ...
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4 posted on 01/10/2014 5:44:01 PM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Perhaps Dr. Christie has failed to notice that we ceased being a “polite society” some years back.


5 posted on 01/10/2014 5:45:09 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Governments that wish to preserve a truly pluralistic society

LOL. Which one is that?

6 posted on 01/10/2014 5:48:19 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: big'ol_freeper

I’m actually getting tired of reading non-Catholics views of my church here on FR.

Let’s pick o the Baptists or Methodists for a while..............


7 posted on 01/10/2014 5:48:33 PM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: big'ol_freeper

I think that’s a fair comment. On the other hand, many of us have been quite subdued in our attacks on the church concerning instances of abuse and the peripheral related issues.


8 posted on 01/10/2014 5:49:09 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I imagine that Justice Thomas can lend a sympathetic ear.

Though I also imagine it’s much worse for her considering she was supposed to toe the progressive line and didn’t.

I pray she stands strong.


9 posted on 01/10/2014 5:50:23 PM PST by Jvette
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To: Mrs. Don-o
No room? Saul Alinsky’s best known disciple would vigorously disagree.
10 posted on 01/10/2014 6:03:05 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

What society are they talking about?


11 posted on 01/10/2014 6:05:25 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Mrs. Don-o; All
Here ===>    "Fisking Stiehm’s Bigotry at US News (bigotry so highly burnished it would scald the retinas)"    is another FR thread with some additional great commentary (by Elizabeth Scalia) about this bigoted, prejudiced editorial at US News by Jamie Stiehm, which you might want to check out also.
12 posted on 01/10/2014 6:08:25 PM PST by Heart-Rest (Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Gal 6:7)
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To: basil

It’s not just Catholics, it’s all Christians. The progressives are anti-Christian, period. It’s just that Catholics are the biggest target, the big enchilada. Folks, we’d better stop this business of calling each other names, cults, apostates, etc. especially in a time when Christians of all stripes are being persecuted, again, both here and abroad. It is one thing to have differences in doctrine,but unless we stand together we are going to face further strife. We can have our debates but not do as liberals do and demonize those who we disagree with.


13 posted on 01/10/2014 6:21:48 PM PST by NotTallTex
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To: NotTallTex; basil
it’s all Christians

Liberal Protestant churches and liberal Catholics are never attacked. At the same time, the style of attacks on conservative Christians differs. Observe that the Stiehm' article is written strictly in anti-Catholic terms, with hints of dual loyalty of Catholics. Replace "Catholic" in his article with "Christian", "Muslim, "Jewish", "Indian" (in either sense of the word), "Eskimo" -- and you get a completely inadmissible, politically incorrect article. The point here is not that other faiths are not attacked, but that the accepted rules of journalistic behavior are thrown away when the Catholics are the target.

14 posted on 01/10/2014 6:35:48 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
No Room in Polite Society for Anti-Catholic Contempt

So along with Politically Correct; we are going to have Religiously Correct?

I don't think that'll become popular.

15 posted on 01/10/2014 6:40:23 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: big'ol_freeper
Just peruse the religion forum here on FR and you can see it in full display.

Right along side of the Anti-PROTESTant bigotry.

Fair and balanced is GOOD!

16 posted on 01/10/2014 6:41:32 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: basil
I’m actually getting tired of reading non-Catholics views of my church here on FR.

While...

I’m actually getting tired of reading Catholic views of my mine!

17 posted on 01/10/2014 6:42:35 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The Catholic church has never changed their teaching about the importance of Our Blessed Mother and her importance in the Holy Family. That’s why the Catholic church is enemy number one of all faiths to Satan. He tempted Eve but could never tempt her divine replacement. He will snipe at her heels until God the Father locks him up forever.


18 posted on 01/10/2014 7:06:35 PM PST by HalfIrish
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To: basil
I’m actually getting tired of reading non-Catholics views of my church here on FR.

I'm tired of your church pushing communist social policies that affects my life and freedom.

19 posted on 01/10/2014 7:15:05 PM PST by ClaytonP
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To: HalfIrish

They sure took their historical time about asserting such a wondrous victory... methinks Jesus does just fine making a zero out of Satan without anyone else’s help.


20 posted on 01/10/2014 7:29:28 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: ClaytonP

How about looking to God, not to churches, for your liberty. That works better!


21 posted on 01/10/2014 7:33:54 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: basil
"Let’s pick o the Baptists or Methodists for a while"

You mean like they did with Phil Robertson? Face it, in the end this is all just anti -Christian hate. The denomination de jour is immaterial.

22 posted on 01/10/2014 7:42:31 PM PST by circlecity
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To: HiTech RedNeck
How about looking to God, not to churches, for your liberty. That works better!

What kind of perverted logic is that?

These commie churches advocate tyranny, and then when those of us oppose this evil, we are scolded to look to God instead of churches?

To Hell with these churches.

23 posted on 01/10/2014 7:51:33 PM PST by ClaytonP
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To: ClaytonP

QED.


24 posted on 01/10/2014 8:11:46 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: big'ol_freeper

oh please…. just because someone doesn’t agree with your religion does not make that person a bigot or ‘anti’ catholic.

Just remember that a lot of those poor picked on catholics ended up working for city governments, joining unions, and voting democratic for generations and generations.


25 posted on 01/10/2014 8:12:10 PM PST by Nifster
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To: DoughtyOne; big'ol_freeper

thank you exactly


26 posted on 01/10/2014 8:12:54 PM PST by Nifster
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To: ClaytonP

We will pray for you.


27 posted on 01/10/2014 8:14:39 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: Nifster

It would take a bigot and anti-Catholic to puke up that propaganda.


28 posted on 01/10/2014 8:20:52 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Then you apparently haven’t paid attention to the NYPD and NYFD and those of New Jes=rsey as well. The history is specific. And if you don’t think that these union thugs vote rat you are delusional. That has NOTHING to do with whatever faith you espouse. It has to do with the cold hard facts


29 posted on 01/10/2014 8:24:09 PM PST by Nifster
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To: ClaytonP

Well we now know where YOUR faith is, and it’s not up above. People are going to act like snots. Big honkin’ news! It’s been happening since the eviction from the Garden. You want some secular “savior” to damn it all for you. Sorry, that won’t happen. However, God will carry YOU through everything you need to glorify HIM (yeah the nerve of that God, wanting everybody to think it’s all about HIM, doesn’t He have the sense to know that these sinful people all know better? Irony, if you could not discern that).

Now, THAT is liberty.


30 posted on 01/10/2014 8:57:17 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Nifster

Here’s my read as a crazy evangelical, a protestant who protests for Christ wherever He happens to manifest Himself.

These liberals are scapegoating the Roman Catholic organization. What they REALLY hate is a God that someone dares to say has the right to suggest that these sisters will be blessed by obeying Him the best they know how. The Roman Catholic church is only in the middle here. The response would have been similar if it was Bible Belt Baptists. It so happens that the Roman Catholic church has the uncomfortable privilege of being the scapegoat of the day. My prayer for them is that they make the most of it for the Lord’s sake. Explain why they believe the gospel enough to think God matters more than Caesar.


31 posted on 01/10/2014 9:06:51 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Contempt only hurts if you respect where it’s coming from.


32 posted on 01/10/2014 9:59:35 PM PST by RichInOC (2013-14 Tiber Swim Team)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Well we now know where YOUR faith is, and it’s not up above.

What do you know?

Perhaps it is in fact you who has misplaced faith.

33 posted on 01/11/2014 12:47:16 AM PST by ClaytonP
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To: HalfIrish
The Catholic church has never changed their teaching about the importance of Our Blessed Mother and her importance in the Holy Family.

No WONDER folks who understand the BIBLE get on your case!

34 posted on 01/11/2014 3:25:25 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: circlecity

You are correct.

(Mormons are NOT christians)


35 posted on 01/11/2014 3:26:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Nifster
oh please…. just because someone doesn’t agree with your religion does not make that person a bigot or ‘anti’ catholic.

Unless you are a victimized Mormon.

36 posted on 01/11/2014 3:27:19 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
These liberals are scapegoating the Roman Catholic organization.

And then they blame it on PROTESTants!

These anti-GOD folks are REALLY good at getting the others to FIGHT AMONG THEMSELVES!

37 posted on 01/11/2014 3:29:18 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RichInOC
Contempt only hurts if you respect where it’s coming from.

Facts only hurt when they are true.

38 posted on 01/11/2014 3:29:54 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Good morning, HiTech!

"How about looking to God, not to churches, for your liberty. That works better!"

I have to agree to the idea of looking to God for your liberty. "Trust not in princes, in men in whom there is no salvation."

But you really can't separate Christ from His Church. The Church is His body --- or, in another sense, His Bride. This is the strongest of bonds: un-divcorceable.

39 posted on 01/11/2014 3:43:30 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Pizza be with you.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I think we’re saying the same thing in two different ways.

It certainly benefits a church — any earthly part of the church — to reflect the Lord the best it knows how. And it shares the blessings of God to do that. As one of those pesky permanent salvationists, I affirm the betrothal of the Body of Christ very strongly. God does not welsh on promises, and engagement promises are among them. So in a sense people who complain about how the church acts have a point. A misbehaving bride is a scandal. However they still need to put their foot in the stirrup provided by God, so to speak, if they expect to actually ride that victorious horse.


40 posted on 01/11/2014 4:09:20 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: ClaytonP

Please feel free to critique my faith once you have actually placed your own at the Throne. (That rhymes.)

Until you do, you must realize you are pleading on the basis of worldly principle. Won’t fly, and God never expected it to fly.


41 posted on 01/11/2014 4:11:33 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: ClaytonP

At any rate, the misbehavior of the earthly church can only bother something that is a shadow, a symbol, of eternal liberty. A good, solid Christian will be glad and victorious in spite of such nuisances. I could very much wish you would place your faith where you would be in a position to critique mine.


42 posted on 01/11/2014 4:14:10 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: ClaytonP

Let me be very very clear. Seize the eternal liberty. Then you have the leverage to work the blessing of earthly (and passing, and fragile, and vulnerable) liberty. Be an agent, not a wailing tantrum thrower.


43 posted on 01/11/2014 4:24:37 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Elsie

put them in the same room with the victimized catholics then


44 posted on 01/11/2014 7:59:50 AM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Thanks Nifster...


45 posted on 01/11/2014 9:48:45 AM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: Elsie

The elephant doesn’t need to attack anyone. It is the 35,000 swarms of flying insects that bite at its legs and tail.

(Go back to your Book of Ethel Merman.)


46 posted on 01/11/2014 10:07:46 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"I think we’re saying the same thing in two different ways."

I'm inclined to love people who start off their comments with that. ♥ ♥

I just got home from praying the Rosary in front of the Planned Parenthood in Knoxville with Cardinal Justin Rigali.

In the rain (though it did clear up).

With 300 other people.

Hope to give the devil his walking papers but good. Hope to see the PP premises turned into a Pregnancy Aid Center.

Hey, they did it in Chattanooga! Love ya, Hi-Tech --- from your fellow Redneck.

47 posted on 01/11/2014 12:07:38 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Pizza be with you.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Yes, I’ve seen a LOT of flies attracted to....


48 posted on 01/11/2014 12:41:57 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I just got home from praying the Rosary in front of the Planned Parenthood in Knoxville with Cardinal Justin Rigali.

Jesus would have braided a whip...

49 posted on 01/11/2014 12:42:37 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

A whip would have been more effective too.

Someone is playing with beads out there, oh da horror.

or

Some people out there with whips and buckets of fake blood...

Which would have more immediate impact?


50 posted on 01/11/2014 12:44:21 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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