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Information like this impacts elections.

The Florida special election to replace Bill Young for one. [note typo in article - Paragraph #4 where "Jolly" is misidentified as "Peters"] Obamacare has the race fluctuating and Alan West playing a big role in the surge of Mark Bircher.

1 posted on 01/10/2014 11:34:49 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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In other words, higher premiums for the responsible people.


2 posted on 01/10/2014 11:44:40 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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In all seriousness, old farts have a patriotic duty to sign up for Obamacare just to wreck the economics. If young people need to sign up to make it work, old people need to sign up to make it fail.


6 posted on 01/10/2014 11:56:07 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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unexpected!


8 posted on 01/11/2014 12:07:43 AM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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Humana said that the company was “evaluating” the financial effects of the changes, but at this time did not adjust their earnings forecast for 2014 “because we’re waiting to see how big the bail out will be.”


12 posted on 01/11/2014 12:53:54 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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~~~Top insurer warns that Obamacare enrollment mix worse than expected~~

DUH!!!
14 posted on 01/11/2014 1:03:38 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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So the geniuses at Humana and the other insurers actually thought that Obumbles and his coven of university Leftiists would be able to take over the medical care of 300,000,000 Americans? I doubt it.

What they liked was the guarantee that the stupid U.S. taxpayers would bail them out if it failed. This is the part of ObamaCare that Republicans ought to repeal. If Democrats vote No, they are voting for government bailouts for Big Insurance...not something you want on your voting record in Democrat precincts.

When this repeal passes, the insurers won’t be supporting this disaster,


15 posted on 01/11/2014 1:04:38 AM PST by txrefugee
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Here come the insurance company bail outs!

Remember the budget “compromise” that Paul Ryan and John Boehner just passed?

That funds ObamaCare for two years, and part of that funding can be used to subsidize insurance companies.

No doubt the GOP leadership will wail and shriek and beat their anguish drums, but when Obama demands the money, House Republicans will vote yes and give it to him.

18 posted on 01/11/2014 1:29:14 AM PST by zeestephen
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“Humana Inc., the nation’s fourth-largest health insurer by market share, warned Thursday that the risk pool of applicants for insurance through President Obama’s health care law would be worse than previously expected. “

One of the Federal Work Camp’s contractors warned that the boxcars body count tally, into the Extortion-Care Concentration Camp, would be worse than previously expected.


23 posted on 01/11/2014 1:48:51 AM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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Bad news all the way around. The downward health care spiral is on.


42 posted on 01/11/2014 3:44:38 AM PST by iontheball
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Humana Inc., the nation's fourth-largest health insurer by market share, warned Thursday that the risk pool of applicants for insurance through President Obama's health care law would be worse than previously expected.

Which is the reason that the feds will NOT release any valid numbers regarding the sign ups.

This is now 11 days since the end of the year, and if the computer programs still can't give accurate information...

46 posted on 01/11/2014 4:22:48 AM PST by USS Alaska (If I could...I would.)
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OOPS, OBAMATONS NEVER FIGURED ON ACTUAL "DISCLOSURES"....in a required SEC filing, Humana disclosed to investors, "as a result of Dec 2013 federal and state regulatory changes allowing certain individuals to remain in their previously existing off-exchange health plans, the Company now expects the risk mix to be more adverse than previously expected." That change Humana is referring to is Obama's unilateral "administrative fix" aimed at allowing individuals to remain enrolled in plans that had been cancelled--imposed by Obama's signature healthcare law mandates. Obama announced the "fix" after a storm of criticism over his broken promise that anybody who liked their plan could keep it.

UT, OH---TROUBLE AHEAD With 2016 in mind, Bill Clinton called on Obama to "honor the commitment he made" that people should be able to keep their health care plans. But lately the Clinton camp has been distancing itself from Obamacare as the problems associated with it become more apparent to the not-amused American electorate.

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Tevi Troy, Hudson Institute scholar's remarkable prophecy a year and a half before the USSC's decision, after Nov 2010 midterms, in which Democrats in Congress and in state legislatures suffered huge losses.....due to O/Care. In Commentary magazine, Troy wrote: "The Pyrrhic victory Democrats secured for themselves [when Obama signed ACA into law] may prove not to have been a victory at all but rather an ever-roiling, ongoing, and recurring act of political and ideological self-destruction."

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LOCK-STEPPING PARTY LOYALTY NOT SEEN SINCE 1940's ERA EUROPE Obama And The Dumbos marching in lockstep. The persistent Dumbocrat drumbeat ---- in obeisance to Obama ---- kept ringing reassuringly in our ears.

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As far back as 2008, at the presidential debate in Nashville, Democrat candidate Obama advanced his signature plan that was ultimately enacted (by an historic straight Democrat party-line vote) into the "Affordable Care Act :

OBAMA: "No. 1, let me just repeat, if you’ve got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All I’m going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. You’ll still have choice of doctor.”

Repeated over and over ---- with the promise that every American would be saving $2500.00 on healthcare costs.

LOYAL DEMOCRATS CHIME IN all reading from the Suck-up Handbook:

SEN. HARRY REID (D-Nev.): “In fact, one of our core principles is that if you like the health care you have, you can keep it.” (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.8642, 8/3/09)

SEN. RICHARD DURBIN: “We believe — and we stand by this — if you like your current health insurance plan, you will be able to keep it, plain and simple, straightforward.” (Sen. Durbin, Congressional Record, S.6401, 6/10/09)

SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): “If you like your insurance, you keep it.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/29/09)

SEN. PATTY MURRAY (D-Wash.): “Again, if you like what you have, you will be able to keep it. Let me say this again: If you like what you have, when our legislation is passed and signed by the President, you will be able to keep it.” (Sen. Murray, Congressional Record, S.6400, 6/10/09)

SEN. MAX BAUCUS (D-Mont.): “That is why one of the central promises of health care reform has been and is: If you like what you have, you can keep it. That is critically important. If a person has a plan, and he or she likes it, he or she can keep it.” (Sen. Baucus, Congressional Record, S.7676, 9/29/10)

SEN. TOM HARKIN (D-Iowa): “One of the things we put in the health care bill when we designed it was the protection for consumers to keep the plan they have if they like it; thus, the term ‘grandfathered plans.’ If you have a plan you like — existing policies — you can keep them. … we said, if you like a plan, you get to keep it, and you can grandfather it in.” (Sen. Harkin, Congressional Record, S.7675-6, 9/29/10)

THEN-REP. TAMMY BALDWIN (D-Wis.): “Under the bill, if you like the insurance you have now, you may keep it and it will improve.” (Rep. Baldwin, Press Release, 3/18/10)

SEN. MARK BEGICH (D-Alaska): “If you got a doctor now, you got a medical professional you want, you get to keep that. If you have an insurance program or a health care policy you want of ideas, make sure you keep it. That you can keep who you want.” (Sen. Begich, Townhall Event, 7/27/09)

SEN. MICHAEL BENNET (D-Colo.): “We should begin with a basic principle: if you have coverage and you like it, you can keep it. If you have your doctor, and you like him or her, you should be able to keep them as well. We will not take that choice away from you.” (Sen. Bennet, Press Release, 6/11/09)

SEN. BARBARA BOXER (D-Calif.): “So we Democrats want people to be able to keep the health care they have. And the answer to that is choice of plans. And in the exchange, we’re going to have lots of different plans, and people will be able to keep the health care coverage they need and they want.” (Sen. Boxer, Press Release, 2/8/11)

SEN. SHERROD BROWN (D-Ohio): “Our Democrat bill says if you have health insurance and you like it, you can keep it…”(Sen. Brown, Congressional Record, S.12612, 12/7/09)

SEN. BEN CARDIN (D-Md.): “For the people of Maryland, this bill will provide a rational way in which they can maintain their existing coverage…” (Sen. Cardin, Congressional Record, S.13798, 12/23/09)

SEN. BOB CASEY (D-Pa.): “I also believe this Democrat legislation and the bill we are going to send to President Obama this fall will also have secure choices. If you like what you have, you like the plan you have, you can keep it. It is not going to change.” (Sen. Casey, Congressional Record, S.8070, 7/24/09)

SEN. KAY HAGAN (D-N.C.): ‘People who have insurance they’re happy with can keep it’ “We need to support the private insurance industry so that people who have insurance they’re happy with can keep it while also providing a backstop option for people without access to affordable coverage.” (“Republicans Vent As Other Compromise Plans Get Aired,” National Journal’s Congress Daily, 6/18/09)

SEN. MARY LANDRIEU (D-La.): “If you like the insurance that you have, you’ll be able to keep it.” (MSNBC’s Hardball, 12/16/09)

SEN. PAT LEAHY (D-Vt.): “[I]f you like the insurance you now have, keep the insurance you have.” (CNN’s “Newsroom,” 10/22/09)

SEN. BOB MENENDEZ (D-N.J.): “If you like what you have, you get to keep it” “Menendez is a member of the Senate Finance Committee, which is expected to release a bill later this week. He stressed that consumers who are satisfied with their plans won’t have to change. ‘If you like what you have, you get to keep it,’ he said.” (“Health Care Plan Would Help N.J., Menendez Says,” The Record, 6/19/09)

SEN. JEFF MERKLEY (D-Oreg.): “[E]nsuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it” “The HELP Committee bill sets forward a historic Democrat plan that will, for the first time in American history, give every American access to affordable health coverage, reduce costs, and increase choice, while ensuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it.” (Sen. Merkley, Press Release, 7/15/09)

SEN. BARBARA MIKULSKI (D-Md.): “It means that if you like the insurance you have now, you can keep it.” (Sen. Mikulski, Press Release, 12/24/09)

SEN. JAY ROCKEFELLER (D-W.Va.): “I want people to know, the President’s promise that if you like the coverage you have today you can keep it is a pledge we intend to keep.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Hearing, 9/23/09)

SEN. JACK REED (D-R.I.): “If you like the insurance you have, you can choose to keep it.” (Sen. Reed, Town Hall Event, 6/25/09)

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-Vt.): “‘If you have coverage you like, you can keep it,’ says Sen. Sanders.” (“Sick And Wrong,” Rolling Stone, 4/5/10)

SEN. JEANNE SHAHEEN (D-N.H.): ‘if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it’ “My understanding … is that … if you have health coverage that you like you can keep it. As I said, you may have missed my remarks at the beginning of the call, but one of the things I that I said as a requirement that I have for supporting a Democrat bill is that if you have health coverage that you like you should be able to keep that. …under every scenario that I’ve seen, if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it.” (Sen. Shaheen, “Health Care Questions From Across New Hampshire,” Accessed 11/13/13)

SEN. DEBBIE STABENOW (D-Mich.): “As someone who has a large number of large employers in my state, one of the things I appreciate about the Democrat chairman’s remark is — is the grandfathering provisions, the fact that the people in my state, 60 percent of whom have insurance, are going to be able to keep it. And Mr. Chairman, I appreciate that. That’s a strong commitment. It’s clear in the bill … I appreciate the strong commitment on your part and the president to make sure that if you have your insurance you can keep it. That’s the bottom line for me.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/24/09)

SEN. JON TESTER (D-Mont.): “‘If you like your coverage, you’ll be able to keep it,’ Tester said, adding that if Medicare changes, it will only become stronger”. (“Tester In Baker To Discuss Health Care,” The Fallon County Times, 11/20/09)

SEN. TOM UDALL (D-N.Mex.): “Some worried reform would alter their current coverage. It won’t. If you like your current plan, you can keep it.” (“What I Learned: About Health Care Reform This Summer, By Your Lawmakers In Congress,” Albuquerque Journal, 9/8/09)

SEN. SHELDON WHITEHOUSE (D-R.I.): “..it honors President Obama’s programs and the promise of all of the Presidential candidates that if you like the plan you have, you get to keep it. You are not forced out of anything.” (Sen. Whitehouse, Congressional Record, S.8668, 8/3/09)

Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) the 60th vote on Obamacare: "people who are happy with their current plan, wouldn't need to change it."

FRANKEN YOUTUBE SOUND BITE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZmAYYNz8Ihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZmAYYNz8I

51 posted on 01/11/2014 5:08:20 AM PST by Liz
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"as a result of the December 2013 federal and state regulatory changes allowing certain individuals to remain in their previously existing off-exchange health plans, the Company now expects the risk mix of members enrolling through the health insurance exchanges to be more adverse than previously expected."

I've read that half the population has some sort of chronic health problem. I suspect those people that are able to remain on their old plan for one more year aren't necessarily any healthier. Obviously people with low cost catastrophic insurance are. The $64B question is how many of those people are going to rush out and buy a bronze plan next fall.

52 posted on 01/11/2014 5:12:12 AM PST by EVO X
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The young and healthy see no benefit in paying $270 a month for something that they see no value in and if they were to use would still have to pay $10,000 in deductibles and premiums.
Only stupid yuts are falling for this scam.
55 posted on 01/11/2014 5:40:16 AM PST by tobyhill
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Obama’s fault.


67 posted on 01/11/2014 7:43:43 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Where were the insurance companies when Obama was selling the country on this mess?


71 posted on 01/11/2014 8:14:39 AM PST by DungeonMaster
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ONWARD! To the GLORIOUS TRIUMPH of the WORLDWIDE PROLETARIAT!


77 posted on 01/11/2014 9:05:36 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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bfl


87 posted on 01/12/2014 7:27:32 PM PST by gattaca ("If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything." Mark Twain)
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