I am not saying this applies to most conservstive men raised the right way, but there is a lack of men who treat women like women and do their job as men. They can’t support their families, can’t fix things, can’t open doors, can’t gas up the car, put air in the tires, or do anything but act like lazy metro 12 year old boys. You want me to soften up? Treat me respectfully and like a woman. I act like a woman with men who treat me like one.
At the same time men don’t really want to be around control-freak Feminazis.
Both sides need to treat each other better.
Good point; but in the "big picture" (that is, societally) men aren't appreciated for their "male attributes".
A good example would be the "male" tendency toward logical thinking; which is not appreciated in the societal realms it once was. Law, for example, is full of logical inconsistency, and to challenge this inconsistency you are often forced to do so as a defendant (a position of weakness) rather than allowed to challenge it as a peer — Example: New Mexico's State Constitution flatly prohibits counties and municipalities from restricting "an incident of the right to keep and bear arms", yet there are many county and municipal courthouses which prohibit weapons inside.
I completely agree. It goes both ways. Women are being raised to be “independent”, this means they often don’t even respect men (”men are pigs”) to begin with. They’re also taught to be sexually “liberated”, only to be used like dogs by men who are quite happy with that philosophy (really, who’s in favor of abortion more? It’s men). Feminism has nothing to do with equality, more like superiority.
The men, well, I agree...they’re pigs :) ...but I’ll argue that a young man growing up is only seeing an over sexualized pop culture where women aren’t respecting themselves, why should men then? Many are lacking fathers, often because of our divorce rate, and are not learning how to be real men.
I do blame feminism for much of it, along with the “me” culture in general. It’s full of lies and has mislead many women from embracing a life that can bring true joy, a selfish life doesn’t. I see a lot of married, working, women thinking “the grass is greener elsewhere” and committing adultery, it seems to happen once they make more than their husband...as they then “don’t need him”, “I deserve better”, etc.. Instead they make bad decisions and wonder why their life doesn’t get better.
It’s a bit of a catch-22 in terms of how to fix both men and women. Although if women were more feminine and made men “work for it” a bit more we’d see the attitude of men change too. I don’t mean to dump on women, we all created this mess. I just know, as a man, if a woman doesn’t behave in a manner a man can respect - he won’t, not that he shouldn’t.
That said, a woman has the power to either make a good strong man, or a sniveling wimp. It’s true, behind every great man is a great woman. We do not prize our women as we should, they should be treated with dignity and respect...but it’s hard to do with so many that are just potty mouthed, aggressive trash. No man wants that, although we’re hypocrites in encouraging it to “get the milk” without having to “buy the cow”.
If I had one wish, it’d be that much of the entertainment industry be recognized for exploiting children...much of what they produce is directly, purposefully, opposite of messages parents would rather their children absorb. Does art just imitate life or the reverse? I say it’s both...and it amplifies over time. We can now see disgusting behavior across generations, people are confused about why we ever had “moral codes”.
...anyway, this has become a long response :) I just know that a man can take a lot and do a lot, he really just wants *one* thing from a woman....and that’s respect (more so than sex imo). Unfortunately, as woman are “empowered” they often see this as “wearing the pants” and care more about their authority than showing any respect....turning their man (and/or male children) into the sniveling kind. It’s a shame, we’re all capable of treating each other much better than we do....but in this culture I only see it spiraling downward :(
yes.....well, the old story....which came first the chicken or the egg.....who makes the first move, it is usually the female who signals her interest....the male can dance around showing off his plume, but it is the female, who smiles and gives a hint of interest....and this is where today’s women are missing in action....