Posted on 01/11/2014 10:13:11 AM PST by Drew68
This encapsulates the problem with GOPe. Democrats are ideologically driven. GOPe just wants to get people from "their team" into office, and doesn't care if they become Dem-lite in order to do that, because they figure "Where are the conservatives going to go?"
Noot was on record saying that part of Obamacare was actually pretty good and that he intended on incorporating that into his own health care bill. And then there's Noot describing himself as a 'Wilsonian' progressive or lauding FDR as the greatest president ever. But the thing that galls me the most is his insistence that he supported Reagan or his claim that he balanced the budget. Neither are true.
Noot is a Beltway bureaucrat of the worst kind.
I have debated several "social conservatives" on FR, who would be willing to throw "fiscal conservatives" under the bus if, for example, a budget reduction on welfare might have the effect of causing more welfare moms to have abortions, or if a change in the law which would have the effect of discouraging unwed pregnancy might make things harder for welfare kids in the short term.
There won't be one because the liberal media and low information voters would tear them down in a NY minute. And the rino's will pounce on them also or turn from them as they did to Newt as we know evil hates conservatism... we saw what republicans think of conservatives as all those Republicans who licked the romney butt at his convention.
Gingrich had one but lacked the other.
Wrong. He had it all but fearful voters were swayed by what the media was telling them and known rino's who came out for romney. They were poll watchers with no truth cemented in them - they stood for nothing, only mindful of their fear. They were easily deceived and that's meat for LIAR politicians. Tell me, what..policies and personality did Romney have? if you say one needs that complete package? Where was his personality? What were his policies that so many wanted? Voters were not interested in America nor truth no matter what they say. Fear is crippling - romney voters were crippled emotionally and politically. Instill fear and then satan claims the weak and wins.
The fact that God has said "Fear Not" over 300 times in His Word - those not obedient to God didn't bother at all to heed His Word. Fear was their focus. Did they really expect to win being fearful and disobedient? They can stay in their depravity with the liberals and rinos - they all deserve and need each other - all of like mind with no truth in them.
WRONG! He said it during the debates. Keep up or stop posting untruths about him like LIAR Romney and Santorum did. While Romney had the undying help of Drudge - he always uses the useable. Seems you one of them, also.
How many photos of Romney did you see of him SLEEPING with the enemy? His resume says it all! The grandfather of obamacare and father of homo’s marrying! Amazing how one photo can make one so blind to the real truth!
Thanks for showing how DECEIVED you when then and STILL are. I'll leave you to your deception.....the rino's did you in or more than likely - you always were along w/being a media zombie. Still trying to come up with what was your thrill in voting for Romney? Or was it the angst that he had for conservatism and conservatives like Newt that was good enough for you? Judging by your posts, that seems about right.
This isn’t exactly what he means, but yes, I do live in a bubble of my own making, distanced from the popular culture. That doesn’t mean I’m not aware of what’s going on-as with Playboy magazine, I don’t need to read it to know they have pictures of naked women. You can be “aware” of popular culture without being immersed in it, the two things are distinct. I don’t have to wallow in a sewer to know that it stinks and that wallowing in it would make me stink too. There are things which can be known without being experienced. And in this day, no one, not even the Amish, can completely disconnect from being aware of popular culture-you have to recognise that the bad exists in order to protect yourself, and your family, from it. Recognising and participating aren’t the same.
I agree.
I didn’t much like any of them. I would have supported Bachmann or Palin and if he had been around Ted Cruz.
I see no reason to cast a vote for candidates who were in the process of putting their fingers in the wind and trying to decide on what to believe.
I want to vote for a conservative who knows what he believes in and isn’t going to change them for a campaign.
I’d rather not vote otherwise.
Who the hell is defending Romney? He was a terrible candidate! His policies were liberal-lite and his personality was wooden. And he was defeated!
And the worse part is he was the strongest guy we had running in 2012! This says nothing about Romney and everything about what an awful bunch of unelectable losers the GOP fielded in 2012. It was the saddest gaggle of Republican presidential contenders I'd ever seen, every last one of them.
:)
Santorum’s an opportunistic liar. Just another politician who will say anything. I can’t be bothered to read whatever it is he said this time.
Some can't disguised between sitting and sleeping with the enemy. No one can teach the unteachable. They only believe what they see - that' s why advertising works for suckers. They have no insight, discernment nor truth in them.
Notice they had no problem voting for a governor (and prodding others to do the same) who instituted same sex marriage in his state and the first gov to do so and socialistic healthcare in his state and the first to do so and his advice led to it nationally now.... but get a thrill out of kicking butt of a conservative sitting on a couch with the a liberal in liberal DC. We aren't dealing with rocket scientists here - that's a given nor are they capable of being such. It's no wonder some would think 'space' is babble. They don't have an ounce of sense which leaves them liberal. Yet, the liberals embraced Kennedy with his talk of the moon. They are one step below liberals which is dirt low. For no one could be that clueless to 'use the couch as a defense' but dumb down voters. Buyers regret would be more honest so it's seems they are ripe for another round - their taint doesn't smell bad enough to them, yet. But it does to every veteran who gave their life for America which includes the pilgrims and our forefathers and the Benghazi victims which the POS Romney was too afraid to address to mr. 'step down'. A topic NEWT would have brought up in a NY minute. Newt, Mr Constitution, is repulsive to those who take from America and give nothing give evil it's way. They are the true illegals in America, IMO.
Newt was the best hope for conservatives in the election because of his experience in Washington
BTW, Newt had more than experience (that romney and obama lacked immensely) - he was a doer and the Constitution ran in his veins. He was more than good for conservatives - He was the ONLY ONE good for America.
The indoctrination by the public school system (K through university), assisted by the media, Hollywood, and pop culture and the music cannot be undone very quickly.
First step - take back the schools.
I didn't say you were defending Romney - you never did and I remember you back then. I was asking you to back up what you said and where was Romney's personality and his policies because you said we need a complete package of personality and policies to win. He won the nomination yet his personality and policies were VOID!
Now with that being said...having it all is not the answer since voters allowed themselves to be hoodwinked and they REFUSED to listen and some STILL haven't change. Their heart spoke in this election - they don't care about truth or America - they wanted someone to stop their fear! And no one can but themselves. I see no hope because pride keeps them from seeing how easily led they were and their fear produced only produced more fear. It's no longer about the 'complete package' - those days are gone....evil has the hearts of the majority of America. Result of leaving God out and then evil is allowed to enter.
he was the strongest guy we had running in 2012!
BS! Strong on deception is all he had. What did you think he was strong in?
And you assume Newt changed for the campaign - and the couch and global warming is proof of that to you? And you really think Bachmann was in it to win it? On what? She was Romney’s useful prop and her lying and zinging Perry led to her downfall - she outed herself - to those that can SEE, anyway.
Newt knows what he believes in but you stay uninformed because he explained his global warming stance in the debate but I guess you chose not to believe him. Perhaps it’s you who doesn’t know what you believe in. And to post that photo was too laughable to take serious. That has been discounted as a N/A long ago - but yet you hung onto ‘that belief’.
Some scientists came out around that time discounting global warming because they, too, were misled by false documents/reports/data of others scientist who were supposedly studying it. So that comment looked foolish as you tried to smear Newt with it. Yet, romney won the nom and obama won the election - and what do they believe about global warming? Why not post that? You won’t have Newt nor any other ‘real’ conservative to kick around any more because of your ‘johnny come lately’ beliefs. The dye has been cast - voters don’t vote for truth - they believe what they see and what the liberal media says - which turned into romney winning the nomination. And those voters will swear to another’s deception and back them up as they aren’t interested in the truth - it is easier to smear along with them and remain uninformed.
You and your psycho babble shows how easily the media can use you for the liberal benefit. You must enjoy and proud to be used. You are officially used up. Get the homo marriage and socialistic healthcare that you voted for - post the links of LIAR romney and the things you embrace. That babble is truth for you as you can relate to it but not space or the Constitution. LIARS get your vote.
Romney had executive experience as governor but most importantly, he had a campaign infrastructure in place from 2008. He never really stopped campaigning.
Look, I liked Newt Gingrich. Lots of middle-aged white men liked him. The problem is that it takes more than just us to win a presidential election and in every other demographic, Gingrich failed horribly at connecting. He scared away younger voters. Females loathed him. In a general election he would've gotten absolutely trounced. He would've looked like Mondale.
What we need is someone who can articulate conservatism, --Gingrich's ideas, to the masses, not just FReepers. I don't think this is going to happen in 2016. The grifters will again outvote the producers. I think the country is going to have to hit bottom before we can put it back together again. I will still support the most conservative candidate that I feel has the best chance of winning though.
Conservatives must operate like teachers to succeed in our dumbed-down society. Public educators and the partisan news media blame Marxist failures on not enough Marxism. The GOP is a dead political party rotting from the top. A new breed of articulate constitutionalists will rise from the shambles following the crash a few years away.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.