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California Mosque with Collapsing Ceilings, Raw Sewage, Claims Freedom of Religion
Frontpage Mag ^ | 01/12/2014 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 01/12/2014 7:10:29 AM PST by SeekAndFind

I don’t really understand how living in an Islamic center that has collapsing ceilings and raw sewage is a part of the Islamic religion. Even the most far out Hadiths and Fatwas (and there are some really far out ones) don’t cover this.

But political correctness usually trumps the law when it comes to mosques.

Masjid Noor has “serious structural integrity problems and potentially dangerous conditions” that were revealed during a late-December inspection by fire officials, said city prosecutor Trisha Aljoe.

“Floors and ceilings are collapsing in there, and extensive work is being done that needs a structural engineer.”

Aljoe added that raw sewage was present outside, along with mattresses and other evidence that people may be living in the structure.

The move to force the mosque out of the building has drawn criticism from at least one Bay Area Islamic leader who claims religious freedoms are being imperiled.

“I recently heard that the city of Richmond might be having talks to shut down the Islamic Center,” said Saadi Nasim, a community outreach coordinator at Al Sabeel mosque in San Francisco, in a Tuesday email to the City Council and Mayor Gayle McLaughlin. “First and foremost, freedom of religion is guaranteed by our constitution. I am confused how and why a religious (center) could be shut down.”

Freedom of Religion means that if Islam believed that its worshipers had to pray in mosques with collapsing ceilings and raw sewage, they might have a case. But even Islam doesn’t require that.

Council members Nat Bates and Corky Boozé have expressed concern with the way the city has handled the situation.

“Being punitive toward a religious group without just cause is asking for nothing but problems with perhaps national negative publicity,” Bates said in an email this week to his council colleagues, adding that he is not abreast of all the facts of the case. “This mosque has been in operation for years without controversy, and there better be some strong reasons in suggesting the city shut them down.”

Collapsing ceilings. Raw sewage.

Boozé, who has been the subject of numerous investigations by city Code Enforcement officials over his own allegedly substandard properties, said the matter was evidence that the Code Enforcement Department and Aljoe are “out of control.”

“I visited the building this week, and to say it’s dangerous is a bunch of hogwash,” Boozé said. “The roof was leaking, there is some rot on the floors, but that is a huge building and the part they pray in has no problems.”

The honorable city council member apparently doesn’t understand how buildings work, despite owning a few. If the ceiling collapses on the top floor, the effect is going to trickle down to you even if you’re on a lower floor.

The Islamic center should not have bought a huge building if it doesn’t want to maintain it. But despite its huge size, there’s no room for women.

Alicia A. – I rarely give one star. The reason for this masjid getting only one star is because this masjid.. as I found out upon asking only serves men. Why you may be wondering? According to the individuals I talked to because their isn’t enough space and no separate wudu area for the women.

This is a violation of the women’s right to attend the masjid for prayer- thus earning this masjid- one star. I am severely disappointed in this masjid- as I was looking forward to attending Jummah and having another masjid I could access within a 10 minute drive of my house.

On the bright side, Alicia avoided all the raw sewage.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ca; california; mosque; muslimamericans; religion; religiousliberty

1 posted on 01/12/2014 7:10:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
no separate wudu area for the women.

NO WUDU AREA NO PEACE!


2 posted on 01/12/2014 7:16:11 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Help fight The Neo Stalinists! Donate to your Free Republic)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Get remodeling money from the Saudis.


3 posted on 01/12/2014 7:19:44 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: SeekAndFind

so is cooked sewage an improvement?


4 posted on 01/12/2014 7:21:55 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: SeekAndFind

Corky Booze generally leaves a bad taste in your mouth, with or without the accent. :)


5 posted on 01/12/2014 7:23:01 AM PST by NonValueAdded (It's not the penalty, it's the lack of coverage on 1 Jan. Think about it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, it is a cesspool of a religion.


6 posted on 01/12/2014 7:23:38 AM PST by Vasilli22
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I sense that this may be a Nation of Islam Mosque...


7 posted on 01/12/2014 7:28:05 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Help fight The Neo Stalinists! Donate to your Free Republic)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just another demonstration of the insanity of our nation. If you are in one of the “protected” groups, there is nothing that can be done against you.

I fear God has given us over to unrestrained evil because of our spiritual degeneracy. After 50 million abortions, same sex marriage, homosexuality promoted in nearly every movie and TV show, unfettered narcissism and materialism, believing everything but the truth - it’s only by God’s grace and mercy that we haven’t collapsed already. Only true revival toward God can save us, but I don’t think that is where we are headed.

I know that our history has shown that things can turn around at critical points, i.e. the Great Awakening. I know with God that anything is possible, but I don’t see that happening now. Heck, even we conservatives can’t agree on much beyond economics.

Still, know one knows what will happen tomorrow and God’s timetable is His own to keep. There is always hope with Him.


8 posted on 01/12/2014 7:28:46 AM PST by rusty schucklefurd
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To: SeekAndFind

Can we say it might be sue-age over sewage?


9 posted on 01/12/2014 7:31:04 AM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bringing the Chithole known as the MidEast to America. :-)


10 posted on 01/12/2014 7:35:26 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Collapsing ceilings and raw sewage in a mosque?

For the life of me...I don’t see the problem here.


11 posted on 01/12/2014 7:38:18 AM PST by moovova
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To: SeekAndFind
Masjid Noor has “serious structural integrity problems and potentially dangerous conditions” that were revealed during a late-December inspection by fire officials, said city prosecutor Trisha Aljoe. “Floors and ceilings are collapsing in there, and extensive work is being done that needs a structural engineer.” Aljoe added that raw sewage was present outside, along with mattresses and other evidence that people may be living in the structure. The move to force the mosque out of the building has drawn criticism from at least one Bay Area Islamic leader who claims religious freedoms are being imperiled.

What is not recognized is that this is a vast improvement over their previous standard of living.

12 posted on 01/12/2014 7:39:28 AM PST by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Council members Nat Bates and Corky Boozé

Corky Booze, huh? Her/his parents hated her/him.

13 posted on 01/12/2014 7:40:23 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: SeekAndFind
As long as only the mosque goers are affected, I'd say let it ride. If Muslims are killed when the ceiling collapses or die of dysentery let Allah sort them out.
14 posted on 01/12/2014 7:42:51 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: SeekAndFind

Why shut it down? Let the thing collapse under the weight of it’s own crap! /S


15 posted on 01/12/2014 7:47:35 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: immadashell

Who’s living there? The Muslims were putting up terrorists in remote Muslim-owned gas station garages here in Florida before 9/11 (there is some suspicion that a couple of them were living in a gas station in Central Florida before getting up to where the attacks were staged).


16 posted on 01/12/2014 7:47:58 AM PST by livius
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To: SeekAndFind

Typical islamic gibberish.


17 posted on 01/12/2014 7:52:14 AM PST by onedoug
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To: The Great RJ

Darn! You beat me to it!!

Exactly, nothing like raw human sewage running like a river through a mosque to draw very attentive national and international media attention to this death cult. We should all lead the way by never referring to it again as a “religion”. It does not deserve it.

Let the roof fall in and let the sewage run like a river in the halls of this structure! The more the merrier!


18 posted on 01/12/2014 7:55:13 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Another NOSE TO @$$ PRODUCTION brought to you by the Religion of Peace!
19 posted on 01/12/2014 8:02:52 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: SeekAndFind
I don’t really understand how living in an Islamic center that has collapsing ceilings and raw sewage is a part of the Islamic religion.

A friend of mine spend some time as a little girl in India and Pakistan, she describes the difference as: "In Pakistan, when a brick falls out of a wall they shrug and say, 'it is the will of God', in India when a brick falls out of the wall they shrug and say 'It is the will of the Gods.' but they put the brick back in the wall!"

20 posted on 01/12/2014 8:37:59 AM PST by null and void (It is as if they all had one head. Too bad they don't all have one neck.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I don’t really understand how living in an Islamic center that has collapsing ceilings and raw sewage is a part of the Islamic religion.

Go spend some time in an Islamic country and you'll see the connection real fast.

21 posted on 01/12/2014 8:41:16 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Vasilli22

PBOH.


22 posted on 01/12/2014 9:15:04 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Muzzie Religious Tenet, “Never eat beans before heading out for Prayers!”


23 posted on 01/12/2014 9:54:32 AM PST by vette6387
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To: hattend

“Corky Booze, huh? Her/his parents hated her/him. “

Nah, they were just walking through the corner liquor store ( of which there are many in Richmond) with mommy dropped him!
Richmond is to Northern California as Detroit is to Michigan. Or maybe Richmond is second,and Vallejo is first because they’ve already been through bankruptcy and are likely to have to go back in soon.

Had jury duty there last year ( jury service is now county wide, I guess because they can’t get anyone in Richmond to serve). After sitting in the Jury Assembly Room for most of the morning, the presiding judge came in and dismissed us because the defendant in the assault case we were supposed to hear had “made an unauthorized departure” from the court house and she had had to issue a warrant for his arrest! I wondered to myself why he wasn’t chained up somewhere based on what the charges were.


24 posted on 01/12/2014 10:05:19 AM PST by vette6387
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To: SeekAndFind

A 7th century religion living the 7th century lifestyle? Big deal.

But what is really going on is thecwaiting game until the City of San Fran write a big fat check for the repairs. The Jizra is owed for a sewage and vermin infested Mosque blessing the city.


25 posted on 01/12/2014 10:05:47 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: null and void

"NOTHING IS WRITTEN "


26 posted on 01/12/2014 10:52:35 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Just wait until the mosque blows up from improper stowage of explosives, ammunition, and incendiaries. Oops.


27 posted on 01/12/2014 11:51:26 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: rusty schucklefurd

You summed up my conflicted thoughts.


28 posted on 01/12/2014 12:19:44 PM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Religious structures are subject to building and health codes.


29 posted on 01/12/2014 12:38:37 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

That isn’t raw sewage...it is just a pile of “religious writings”.


30 posted on 01/12/2014 2:05:17 PM PST by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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