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New U.S. Army Rifle:
Blogster ^ | December 14th 2013 | skipper12383

Posted on 01/12/2014 8:24:05 AM PST by umgud

The MXT135 Counter Defilade Target Engagement System has a range of roughly 7,800 feet - and is to be deployed in Afghanistan soon. I would call it the "Equalizer." Some call it the "Punisher".

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This rifle system is real, it is now and it will be one of the most significant military advancements in history.

Go to the source, read it and view the pics. I'm stoked!

1 posted on 01/12/2014 8:24:05 AM PST by umgud
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To: umgud

Will we flood Libya with shipments of these?


2 posted on 01/12/2014 8:27:13 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Anti-Complacency League! Baby!)
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To: umgud

“I’m stoked!”
Me too,right up to the time they deploy these against Americans here in America.


3 posted on 01/12/2014 8:28:15 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: umgud

They just can’t simply call it a rifle, can they? They ave to mess it up with stupid government jargon.


4 posted on 01/12/2014 8:28:30 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Not just Libya.


5 posted on 01/12/2014 8:28:48 AM PST by null and void (It is as if they all had one head. Too bad they don't all have one neck.)
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To: umgud

Enfilade and defilade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enfilade_and_defilade

Enfilade and defilade are concepts in military tactics used to describe a military formation’s exposure to enemy fire. A formation or position is “in enfilade” if weapons fire can be directed along its longest axis. A unit or position is “in defilade” if it uses natural or artificial obstacles to shield or conceal itself from enfilade.[1] The strategies invented by the English use the French enfiler (”to put on a string or sling”) and défiler (”to slip away or off”) which the English nobility used at that time.[2]

Enfilade fire, a gunfire directed against an enfiladed formation or position, is also commonly known as “flanking fire”.[1] Raking fire is the equivalent term in naval warfare. Strafing, firing on targets from a flying platform, is often done with enfilade fire.


6 posted on 01/12/2014 8:29:42 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: umgud

Jihadists will tether women and children to them. They will have a direct line to the European press which will cry out about all the innocent women and children being killed.


7 posted on 01/12/2014 8:30:17 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: umgud

Jihadists will tether women and children to them. They will have a direct line to the European press which will cry out about all the innocent women and children being killed.


8 posted on 01/12/2014 8:30:18 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: umgud

9 posted on 01/12/2014 8:30:30 AM PST by null and void (It is as if they all had one head. Too bad they don't all have one neck.)
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To: umgud
'$11,900.00 each.'

Crazy. Only America would spend and waste that much money.

10 posted on 01/12/2014 8:31:30 AM PST by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: umgud

That is really cool. The rounds can be dialed in to explode at a range of the shooter’s choosing. No wonder the rounds are $45.00 each.


11 posted on 01/12/2014 8:32:24 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: umgud; hiredhand; Squantos
I'm stoked!

This is an anti-sniper weapon.

Expect to see every SWAT team equipped with them soon. Will you be so "stoked" then?

12 posted on 01/12/2014 8:32:25 AM PST by Carry_Okie (0-Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head and take your home to pay for it.)
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To: umgud

It will be used against us.


13 posted on 01/12/2014 8:32:45 AM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: umgud

Very cool! Let’s see how many hours it will take before the Chinese and Russians get their hands on one.


14 posted on 01/12/2014 8:32:49 AM PST by winner3000
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To: Farmer Dean

Hard time believing a round will be only $45


15 posted on 01/12/2014 8:33:09 AM PST by DAC21
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To: ClearCase_guy

Probably.

But first, the EPA and the IRS will get them, followed by Obamacare navigators and the Chicago PD.

A bit later, Holder’s friends in Mexico will get them so they can roll up the U.S. Border Patrol who will of course be denied their use.

I have no idea why people on this forum are excited about new weapons at this point in history. They will be used in service of a criminal regime.


16 posted on 01/12/2014 8:33:37 AM PST by Regulator
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To: umgud
It would be nice to know the velocity 7800 feet seems optimistic unless the round has some decent velocity.

How accurate are they can they drop a round into a couple foot hole.

Other wise overhead cover defeats it.

17 posted on 01/12/2014 8:33:53 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: umgud

Why announce it?


18 posted on 01/12/2014 8:34:31 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: Lx

Only $45 ?
I’m a bit surprised they are that inexpensive.
Sourced from China?


19 posted on 01/12/2014 8:34:32 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: umgud

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOwn1hkqh_8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzxfDMXgGD4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-7L0Frj6vQ


20 posted on 01/12/2014 8:35:19 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Carry_Okie

All weapons development should halt for the sake of the possibility of their use against us? Good idea.


21 posted on 01/12/2014 8:36:11 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Theoria

Do you have any idea what the implications are for our infantry forces? This thing would’ve been a Godsend in Iraq.


22 posted on 01/12/2014 8:37:05 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Regulator

That was my first thought was when do the Mexican cartels get their delivery?


23 posted on 01/12/2014 8:39:09 AM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: Future Snake Eater
All weapons development should halt for the sake of the possibility of their use against us? Good idea.

You're putting words into my mouth to construct a straw-man. Not a good idea. I'm simply pointing out that there is reason not to be "stoked." Between drones, government control of communications, and weapons like these, the idea that the people can take on the tyrants is under stress. That means we must compensate. To fail to point that out is stupid. To criticize it is worse.

Are you stupid? Or worse?

24 posted on 01/12/2014 8:39:53 AM PST by Carry_Okie (0-Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head and take your home to pay for it.)
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To: umgud

It’s perfect for your local Park Ranger!


25 posted on 01/12/2014 8:41:17 AM PST by The Toll
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To: umgud

All I see is a fancy grenade launcher. Is this thing a rifle as well, as with previous test versions of this concept?


26 posted on 01/12/2014 8:41:24 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: umgud

Wiki says:
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The XM25 Counter Defilade Target Engagement (CDTE) System,
also known as the Punisher and Individual Semiautomatic Air Burst System
is an air burst grenade launcher derived from the XM29 OICW.
It was fielded to soldiers serving in the War in Afghanistan
and was projected to enter full-rate procurement in 2013.
However, the Senate Armed Services Committee eliminated all funding
for the XM25 in its revision of the Pentagon’s budget in June 2013.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM25_CDTE
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27 posted on 01/12/2014 8:41:43 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Probably be tested by the IRS before they give them to the military.


28 posted on 01/12/2014 8:41:52 AM PST by CMailBag
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To: null and void; big'ol_freeper; shove_it; TrueKnightGalahad; Larry Lucido; Diplomat; RockinRight; ...
Re:

Gadzooks, null--- I knew I had seen one... before!

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cm/popularmechanics/images/ea/super_soaker_0710-de.jpg

29 posted on 01/12/2014 8:41:58 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: umgud

Every time I see a new advance weapon system I am the opposite of stoked. My fears of a government takeover lingers in the background (I just have an uneasy feeling and fear another power hungry monster like Obama) and taints the achievement. I imagine how powerful this weapon systems would be if used against it own populace.

But overall pretty cool weapon system and happy for our soldiers, except for the tone down bullets for stunning. We do after-all want to catch and release our enemies.


30 posted on 01/12/2014 8:43:18 AM PST by BushCountry (Obama: The dentist told me I need a crown. I was like I KNOW, RIGHT?)
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To: Carry_Okie

I’m not constructing a straw-anything, just carrying your own comments out to their logical conclusion. Surely your comment didn’t reach the inanity of “well, it’s OK to make it, but nobody should get excited about it,” right? Because that would be worse than stupid.


31 posted on 01/12/2014 8:43:19 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater

I completely agree.

America does in fact need to pay attention to our government, but it beats the heck out of all of its competitors everywhere in the world.

Even as currently, occupied by Obama.

Technology always advances. Either it advances by us driving the advance.

Or it advances by our opponents driving the advance.

Always.

That said, bring back American jobs.


32 posted on 01/12/2014 8:44:00 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: umgud

Lazar gives away position for drawing counter-fire from similar weapons, mortars, rockets, RPGs, Artty and air. Plus I’ll bet that at the very least the ChiComs already have all the blueprints, research data and prototypes.


33 posted on 01/12/2014 8:46:10 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: mylife; MaxMax; 50cal Smokepole; Randy Larsen; lolhelp; waterhill; Clint N. Suhks; Envisioning; ...

Gun Talk Ping List... to he MXT135 Counter Defilade Target Engagement System.


34 posted on 01/12/2014 8:46:53 AM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Future Snake Eater
I’m not constructing a straw-anything, just carrying your own comments out to their logical conclusion.

No, they're not logical. The weapon is already here. That's why it's a straw man.

Surely your comment didn’t reach the inanity of “well, it’s OK to make it, but nobody should get excited about it,” right?

No, it went straight to the crux, which is that we face a tyrannical police state armed with these weapons and MUST devise strategy to be able to deter it or lose our freedom for ourselves and our children or die in futility fighting it. I don't find either prospect attractive. It is entirely logical, nor am I the only FReeper who saw that on this thread. Apparently it eluded you, which is illogical given the reality of those in power.

That such would not occur to you is indication of an obsession with an enemy that has blinded you to an even greater hazard. I'd say you took the bait.

35 posted on 01/12/2014 8:49:39 AM PST by Carry_Okie (0-Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head and take your home to pay for it.)
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To: umgud

How long before used against US citizens?


36 posted on 01/12/2014 8:50:09 AM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: Theoria
Only America would spend and waste that much money.

As opposed to the cost of an air strike?

37 posted on 01/12/2014 8:51:08 AM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: Timber Rattler
They just can’t simply call it a rifle, can they?

Thinking of a fancy acronym gives the staff pogues and chairborne commandos an opportunity to feel important. If their acronym is widely accepted, they even get medals.

38 posted on 01/12/2014 8:51:40 AM PST by Sarajevo (Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank, give a man a bank and he can rob the world)
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To: Repeal The 17th

The XM-25 had ammunition problems and it was withdrawn from combat service just as it was scheduled to go into production. I suspect that the ammunition problems were significant. This new model is a 35mm system, vice 25mm. It sounds to be like they completely redesigned the round and designed a manufacturing system to support it. The 25mm ammunition was practically all hand made and likely could not be reliably mass produced.


39 posted on 01/12/2014 8:52:42 AM PST by centurion316
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To: null and void

More a sophisticated mini-rpg than a rifle.


40 posted on 01/12/2014 8:53:50 AM PST by Para-Ord.45 ( Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: umgud

Well the Syrian rebals must be stoked. No doubt Barry and McStain will want them to have some.


41 posted on 01/12/2014 8:54:08 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: riverrunner

Yep, that’s 2,600 yards.

Kind of hard to believe considering it’s basically a 35mm grenade launcher.


42 posted on 01/12/2014 8:54:45 AM PST by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: umgud

I soon expect HHS, TSA, etc, local communists cops to order soon. America is finished.


43 posted on 01/12/2014 8:56:00 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Future Snake Eater
A godsend would have been more ruble and less trouble.

Spending the money on up armored humvees would have been better on the ground.

Mass produced weapons on the cheap kill just the same.

44 posted on 01/12/2014 8:58:24 AM PST by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: All

Revelation 13:4

And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?


45 posted on 01/12/2014 8:58:42 AM PST by ThE_RiPpEr.
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To: null and void
Oooooooo, its black...and mean looking.

It should be banned.

46 posted on 01/12/2014 8:58:43 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: School of Rational Thought; All

I too fear it will be used against US troops, against US citizens by corrupt gov’t officials (remember Waco?). I fear the stoopid presidents will arm the wrong people with these.

But we can’t void new technology on these fears.


47 posted on 01/12/2014 8:59:36 AM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: School of Rational Thought

Cost does not always equal money. Sure, I’d love to send in air strikes as opposed to boots on the ground. That is a given. bomb, bomb, bomb away.


48 posted on 01/12/2014 9:01:14 AM PST by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: umgud

I believe the program funding was cut back in July. It also does not have a 2,300 meter range.


49 posted on 01/12/2014 9:02:03 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: Theoria; bang_list
$11,900! That's crazy!

What is crazier is that laws prohibit citizens from owning them and the best we can own is 30 year old M16a2s that cost citizens $20-30,000.00 + ATF tax stamp. That is the insane part.

50 posted on 01/12/2014 9:03:55 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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