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Loss of jobless aid leaves many with bleak options
Associated Press ^ | Jan 12, 2014 10:40 AM EST | Josh Boak and Sam Hananel

Posted on 01/12/2014 9:00:44 AM PST by Olog-hai

A cutoff of benefits for the long-term unemployed has left more than 1.3 million Americans with a stressful decision:

What now?

Without their unemployment checks, many will abandon what had been a futile search and will no longer look for a job—an exodus that could dwarf the 347,000 Americans who stopped seeking work in December. Beneficiaries have been required to look for work to receive unemployment checks.

Some who lost their benefits say they’ll begin an early and unplanned retirement. Others will pile on debt to pay for school and an eventual second career. Many will likely lean on family, friends, and other government programs to get by. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: classwarfare; liberalagenda; unemployment; wealthredistribution
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. . . and if you think things are bad now, wait until all these AP reporters are out of jobs. No calls for government to loosen their death grip on taxation and regulation so that jobs can start coming back to the USA, notice; same goes for exchanging globalistic “free trade” (so-called) for a more autarkic viewpoint.
1 posted on 01/12/2014 9:00:45 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Bring back American manufacturing.

Just saying.

Stop sending your money to China.


2 posted on 01/12/2014 9:02:00 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Olog-hai

This is no problem for the 0bama Administration, for if 1.3 million workers leave the work force, the unemployment rate will fall from 6.7 to about 6.4, right where the Fed wants it to be before QE tapering begins in earnest. Then, all interest rates will rise and the banks make trillions on the national debt that has to be serviced.


3 posted on 01/12/2014 9:03:43 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: Olog-hai

Well, they should’ve been “Fiscally Responsible” by saving & investing no matter what so they wouldn’t be in this situation!!!

I did. I retired early & am doing fine...............


4 posted on 01/12/2014 9:06:14 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Elections have consequences - NOW LOOK what we have to deal with...)
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To: Olog-hai

Bleak options?

To hear the media and Dems tell it, the economy is roaring like gangbusters. The unemployment percentage has dropped to 6.7%.

So, which is the lie?


5 posted on 01/12/2014 9:06:26 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

You’ve got it all figured out, don’t you?

Didn’t you get the memo about Skittle-pooping Unicorns and that the sky is filled with Rainbows these days and all is well?

*SNORT*

You nailed it. That’s EXACTLY what’s going to happen. Exactly.


6 posted on 01/12/2014 9:06:32 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Olog-hai

Left with the bleak option of getting up off their duff and actually getting a job and going to work at perhaps a lower level of pay. That’s life in a recessive economy.


7 posted on 01/12/2014 9:07:50 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

How about we line up union members against the wall for starters?


8 posted on 01/12/2014 9:07:53 AM PST by dinodino
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

“This is no problem for the 0bama Administration,”

Exactly. The more people on the government dole the better. And that is really what this is all about. A guaranteed Democrat constituency.


9 posted on 01/12/2014 9:07:54 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Olog-hai

Put them to work filling pot holes in their community for the same amount they have been receiving. How many takers?


10 posted on 01/12/2014 9:10:39 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Olog-hai

For most of my life, if someone didn’t have a job, it was because they really weren’t trying hard enough to get one.

Now, thanks to all these trade deals and liberal policies, we’re getting to a point where someone could have extreme difficulty finding a job capable of supporting a family, no matter their experience or education.

I’m not a “living wage” proponent, or advocating government to do anything but stop taxing and regulating the hell out of us, and stop these damned trade agreements that ship our jobs off to other continents.

All of these things are stacking up, causing the people who should be having kids not to, and the ones who shouldn’t be having kids are reproducing like wildfire.

With all the illegals we are importing, and jobs we are exporting, we’re rocketing towards being a third-world country. Some parts of the U.S. already are.


11 posted on 01/12/2014 9:11:15 AM PST by TheGipperWasRight
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To: headstamp 2

You are 100% right in that.

The problem is, the GOP is no better.

Both our parties, are selling out.

GOP wake up, and bring back American jobs. Use import duties, or any other tactic, but America needs jobs right here in America.

Everyone stop selling out.

(Grr. Sorry but it’s frustrating)

Nobody is on Americans’ side anymore. Both parties are sold out.


12 posted on 01/12/2014 9:11:35 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

The rats are decimating the middle class and have already crossed the rubicon. With millions leaving the work force, the rats will claim unemployment is dropping and say the economy is getting better.

The media will jump on that, the rats will run on that and they will hold the senate in 2014.

All in time for Hillary.


13 posted on 01/12/2014 9:13:16 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("The GOP fights its own base with far more vigor than it employs in fighting the Dims.")
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To: Olog-hai

Welfare?


14 posted on 01/12/2014 9:16:16 AM PST by goodtomato (I'm really, really blessed!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

because a billion unemployed Chinese and a Chinese govt that can’t or won’t buy US debt is not our problem...


15 posted on 01/12/2014 9:17:55 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi; All
Then, all interest rates will rise and the banks make trillions on the national debt that has to be serviced.

Would a rise in interest rate apply the current debt or would it only apply to future moneys borrowed?

I'm asking because I don't know.

16 posted on 01/12/2014 9:18:01 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Stop sending your money to China.

Where was the computer you're tying on made?

17 posted on 01/12/2014 9:20:08 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Olog-hai

That line about abandoning their job search because unemployment checks are no longer coming in makes absolutely no sense. Unless these people want to starve or something.


18 posted on 01/12/2014 9:21:26 AM PST by ABQHispConservative (RINOs only strategy is to surrender. At least the French have the Foreign Legion.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
The cracks are beginning to show.

If looks could kill, all ten MSNBC viewers would be dead from the look on Mika Brzezinski's face.

MSNBC: December jobs report is 'horrific, awful and ugly'


19 posted on 01/12/2014 9:23:47 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: silverleaf

Well the last I heard the unemployment rate in China is 4.1%, significantly better than America’s.

There was a time when China was a good idea.

In my opinion that time is over.

China is becoming far too strong, and far too big a competitor, to continue to help.

America needs to recognize that things change. China owns all the factories in China. All of them.

Even those, producing for America.

Everything made in China, is bottom line, for Chinese owners. There is some western ownership, but the majority ownership is all Chinese.

China is now the largest exporter anywhere.

The world leader.

Wake up people. We have a serious challenge to our nation’s supremacy facing us right now.

America needs factories.

Now.


20 posted on 01/12/2014 9:24:12 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Olog-hai

And what’s going to happen in 3 months, and 3 months after that.....


21 posted on 01/12/2014 9:24:40 AM PST by vpintheak (Thankful to be God blessed & chosen!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
I'm asking because I don't know.

That doesn't surprise me at all, LVR, since our government doesn't really know what financial obligations have to be serviced either.

You see, we have an official national debt of $17T, but unfunded liabilities, such as government-service employee pensions, Medicaid debt, Social Security and other social services now total an estimated $93T. So 17 + 93 = $110T (estimated). I've also seen estimates twice that large.

But to answer your question, as financial instruments come up for renewal, the new interest rate applies, in almost all instances.

22 posted on 01/12/2014 9:25:48 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Only future borrowing. The Treasury has also tried to issue more longer term debt so the average maturity is over 5 years now.


23 posted on 01/12/2014 9:27:06 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: ABQHispConservative

A lot of these people were not seriously looking for a job, they were going through the motions just to qualify for benefits. Doesn’t mean that there are jobs out there for them.


24 posted on 01/12/2014 9:27:10 AM PST by buwaya
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To: goodtomato

No, “transitional living funds”.


25 posted on 01/12/2014 9:27:58 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I just outlined the first steps towards doing that. None of the liberals in DC want to budge on that issue.


26 posted on 01/12/2014 9:28:30 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Use import duties, or any other tactic, but America needs jobs right here in America

We could lower the corporate tax rate which is the highest rate in the world. We could stop in the insane money printing which suppresses the willingness to risk money on new job creation. That would be more than enough, but I would also slash regulations and scrap the current tax code.

27 posted on 01/12/2014 9:30:48 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Looking on the bright side, China is now quite a good market for upscale goods. I have been selling quite a few collectibles there (bit of a hobby of mine). These days they (mainly through HongKong) are my main customers. I think they are ready to be a decent market for quality consumer goods, like Japan.


28 posted on 01/12/2014 9:31:51 AM PST by buwaya
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
as financial instruments come up for renewal, the new interest rate applies, in almost all instances.

That's pretty much what I thought too, but I'm sure the crooks would have something of an exception carved out.

17 trillion at 4% would about destroy us....of course maybe that's the plan.

On unfunded liabilities though I've read anywhere from 100 - 220 trillion, no one really seems to know.

Thanks for your reply.

29 posted on 01/12/2014 9:31:54 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: palmer

Thanks!


30 posted on 01/12/2014 9:33:12 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Olog-hai

I am not speaking to liberals.

It was already correctly identified in this thread, that democrats have a vested interest in not fully employing Americans.

America running high unemployment, causes needy people. Democrats thrive on needy people.

Who I am speaking to are conservatives. Sure there was a huge amount of money to be made in sending American jobs to China, but China is not America.

China is a strategic competitor to America.

The largest nation on earth, in population.

We need to stop building China into an ever-stronger competitor.

China has five times the population of America.

Conservatives need to say enough, and start to dis-invest from China. Bring your money back home.

For over an entire generation Americans have built up the rest of the world.

It is time to start to bring all of that money back home.

Democrats are not helping America.

The job is left for Republicans.

So Republicans. STAND UP.

Build up America.


31 posted on 01/12/2014 9:34:54 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Olog-hai

I see the sob sisters are out in force at AP.


32 posted on 01/12/2014 9:37:46 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Republicans are liberals for the most part—in word as well as in deed, of late. Their agenda for the USA is the exact same as the Democrats’ agenda. The GOP has been working quite hard to push conservatives out of the party, under the undue influence of union money; most of the conservatives in DC say most of the same things as you and I with respect to China, but are being drowned out by the infiltrators.
33 posted on 01/12/2014 9:39:59 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: buwaya

-— A lot of these people were not seriously looking for a job, they were going through the motions just to qualify for benefits -—

I got laid off from a major company in 2009. Occasionally I look up my former colleagues on Linked In. Most are “consulting.” Few have found full-time jobs.

Almost five years later.

Imagine that.

I’ve bounced around doing contract work.

It’s a real party out here.


34 posted on 01/12/2014 9:40:25 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: WashingtonSource

Yeah, with “more handouts” as the solution rather than abandoning the socialist race to the bottom.


35 posted on 01/12/2014 9:40:34 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
I think a lot of these people have a narrowing window of time to take advantage of low interest rates and sell their homes before rising interest rates diminish the value of this particular type of asset.

Buyers can be fooled into thinking a home is worth $500,000 if artificially low interest rates make it easier to afford monthly mortgage payments. That isn't going to last forever.

36 posted on 01/12/2014 9:44:06 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Your creeds on bringing back factories reminds me of Willie Green, a Freeper who used to constantly post about bringing back the railroads and trains. You are both talking about bringing back 19th or 20th century technology.

It's not going to happen and the unions and our government have seen to that. There is no way that companies like Apple or Google are going to build their smartphones and tablets here in the United States where they have to deal with pinky-ringed union thugs and a government that will be hell-bent on legislating and litigating them out of business under a blizzard of regulations and lawsuits.

Those factories you speak of are gone forever. They are never coming back, at least until robotics advance enough where humans are no longer required to work in them.

The blue-collar factories jobs are officially extinct and they only exist in Bruce Springsteen songs and in PBS documentaries. No more Laverne & Shirley stamping caps on beer bottles in Milwaukee. No more, no more.

These days, you get a white collar job or a job in the service industry. You don't necessary need to work in Walmart or at a McDonalds but you can still get a plumbing or electrician license and make a decent living in the trades if blue-collar work really appeals to you.

Forget about the factories though. They are NEVER coming back.

Never.

37 posted on 01/12/2014 9:44:18 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

-— China is a strategic competitor to America. -—

The economy is not a zero sum game. We can all be prosperous.

Just because we’re economically suicidal doesn’t mean that we should try to drag other economies down.


38 posted on 01/12/2014 9:45:07 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Yes, its bad.
Full time non-contract career positions are very scarce across many industries.
However, there are indeed good paying jobs going begging.
Qualified electric linemen are very hard to find.


39 posted on 01/12/2014 9:45:42 AM PST by buwaya
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
100%
40 posted on 01/12/2014 9:46:25 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: SamAdams76

17 trillion dollars in US debt.

And growing fast.

Bring back American manufacturing.


41 posted on 01/12/2014 9:50:22 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: SamAdams76

There’s no alternative to not bringing them back. National security depends on it (that’s why countries like Russia, Germany, Red China et al hold on to their manufacturing sectors with vehemence). They don’t come back, kiss the country goodbye.

(Of course, their absence can be interpreted as a curse.)


42 posted on 01/12/2014 9:51:16 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Josh and Sam, how hard do you try to be so stupid?

No, Bush’s wars did NOT cause the unemployment.

The $4T stimulus which you should be researching WHERE IT DISAPPEARED TO is what caused it.

What about researching what those who QUIT looking for a job causing the U6 number to hit something like 13-15% are doing now...

Research how EPA tyrannical regulations cause job loss and companies to go out of business.

Research how the DOE via 0bummer, your dictator hero caused the Keystone Pipeline to not be built and thus cause job loss.

Research how our coal is all going overseas...

Research how journalists are the stupidest people on earth.


43 posted on 01/12/2014 9:52:38 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Pajama-boy-in-chief's beatings continue until morale improves.)
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To: buwaya

“A lot of these people were not seriously looking for a job, they were going through the motions just to qualify for benefits.”

Yup.

Why look for a job when you can play golf and write down companies you applied for by e-mail? One interview in a day is enough for them. Eventually they’ll be applying for Medicaid and EBT’s anyway so these lazy leeches will still be on the govt dole..


44 posted on 01/12/2014 9:54:28 AM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Olog-hai
many will abandon what had been a futile search and will no longer look for a job
That will improve the unemployment rate report. Instead of 6 of 7% unemployment, maybe the government will be able report an improvement to 3 or 4%, which is generally held to be "full employment."

AP treats the mass abandonment as bad news, when by its own reporting, etc., the net result is good news.

45 posted on 01/12/2014 9:55:02 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: listenhillary

Put them to work filling pot holes in their community for the same amount they have been receiving.”

It has long been my contention that everyone on unemployment or any kind of government benefits should be required to work to offset the income they are receiving. There are plenty of tasks which can be done by the unemployed. Painting, washing windows and cleaning of government buildings, maintaining green areas within a city, repair of homes for the elderly, picking up trash, maintaining their own section 8 housing, etc. No work should equal no benefits.

Read several months ago about a city tearing out their flower beds because they couldn’t afford to pay anyone to maintain them. I would guess that there are lots of people in that city on the dole. Put them to work. This is B.S.


46 posted on 01/12/2014 9:55:53 AM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Olog-hai

Would Mexico take them? They could then return doing the jobs Americans won’t do.


47 posted on 01/12/2014 9:57:45 AM PST by Libloather (Embrace the suck)
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To: Olog-hai
If they are coming back, they are coming back in the form of robots. No more plug-ugly union hardhats looking to impose their form of socialism upon the corporations in order to suck them dry.

Robots will work 24/7 and won't go out on disability because they had a screw come loose.

48 posted on 01/12/2014 9:58:05 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Olog-hai
Without their unemployment checks, many will abandon what had been a futile search and will no longer look for a job

Bull crap. History proves that instead of occasionally half looking for a job, the fact they have no money forces them to finally put real affort inj looking for a job, and usually finding it.

Being broke with no money coming in is a big motivator to finding work.

Again AP pushes the leftist line that only receiving money from the government will give on an incentive to find a job which again history proves to be wrong time and time again.
49 posted on 01/12/2014 9:58:15 AM PST by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Olog-hai

If the economy is so great and the ‘record-low’ unemployment rate is the indicator of this, they’ll have no problem getting other jobs. The economy is awesome, we’ve been told.

If the economy is awesome and unemployment is low, there’s no need to extend unemployment benefits. Seems like it would be a contradiction to extend benefits in such a roaring economy.


50 posted on 01/12/2014 9:59:01 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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