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Glenn Beck ridiculously scolds CNNís Jake Tapper in 2 a.m. battle (BS!)
The Daily Caller ^ | 1-12-2014 | Betsy Rothstein

Posted on 01/12/2014 9:25:33 AM PST by servo1969

Why would CNN’s Jake Tapper bring a U.S. soldier on his show and blatantly insult him and the 11 SEALS and 8 soldiers who died alongside him in combat in Afghanistan?

Answer: He wouldn’t. He didn’t.

But thanks to conservative radio personality and world renowned dingbat Glenn Beck and The Blaze‘s Oliver Darcy, Tapper was still up at 2 a.m. this morning arguing for journalism to happen. In other words, he wanted his words interpreted fairly. He wanted what he voiced Friday to be spelled out without the glaze of crazy. On his program Friday, Tapper interviewed former Navy SEAL Marcus Luttrell and Mark Wahlberg for the movie Lone Survivor. The movie, debuting this weekend, is based on Luttrell’s 2007 memoir by the same name.

The only thing The Blaze got right was that the interview turned tense. The interpretation? Entirely wrong. Sometimes in journalism, common sense must prevail. But fat chance of that happening as Darcy dug in his heels and insisted that Tapper had repeatedly told Luttrell and Wahlberg that the soldiers died for nothing. Not even watching the show blind drunk on Ambien could it be interpreted like that. Darcy desperately needs a course in TV watching. (Hey BuzzFeed‘s Dorsey Shaw, can you tutor him? Start slowly with something like Here Comes Honey Boo Boo or Sex Sent Me to the ER (a real show) and build up to CNN’s “The Lead.”)

In his story, Darcy claimed that “Former Navy SEAL Marcus Luttrell pushed back at CNN’s Jake Tapper after the host suggested in an interview that the ‘lone survivor’s’ fellow veterans died for nothing.” What Tapper actually said? “I don’t want any more senseless American deaths.”

But let’s look at it in full context.

Tapper’s words:

“One of the emotions I felt while watching the film is first of all the hopelessness of the situation — how horrific it was and also just all that loss of life of these brave American men,” Tapper said on his program Friday. “And I was torn about the message of the film in the same way that I think I am about the war in Afghanistan itself. I don’t want any more senseless American death. And at the same time I know that there were bad people there and good people that need help.”

At that moment, Luttrell strangely misinterpreted Tapper’s comments, and things grew tense. Luttrell snapped, “I don’t know what part of the film you were watching, but hopelessness really ever came into it. I mean, where did you see that? Because there was never a point where we just felt like we were hopelessly lost or anything like that. We never gave up. We never felt like we were losing until we were actually dead.” It was bizarre. But it’s also tough to say why Luttrell interpreted Tapper’s words as he did. To The Mirror, it seemed the SEAL had a hair trigger temperment, as though he was poised for battle. How he confused “I don’t want any more senseless American death” for ‘the soldiers died for nothing’ is baffling.

Even after Tapper tried to explain himself, Luttrell wasn’t having it.

Tapper: “Just the sense of all these wonderful people who died. It seemed senseless. I don’t mean to disrespect in any way, but it seemed senseless — all of these wonderful people who were killed for an op that went wrong.”

Luttrell: “We spend our whole lives training to defend this country and then we were sent over there by this country — so you’re telling me because we were over there doing what we were told by our country that it was senseless. And my guys — what? They died for nothing?”

Tapper: “No, I’m not saying that.”

Luttrell: “That’s what you said. So, let me just say, it went bad for us over there, but that was our job. That’s what we did. We didn’t complain about it.”

Except that’s not what Tapper said. Nonetheless the headline The Blaze blared: ‘They Died For Nothing?’ Marcus Luttrell Hits Back At CNN Host in Tense Interview.”

UPDATE: Tapper explained to The Mirror, “The whole reason I aired that part of the interview was because I think that disconnect – my reaction to the movie as a civilian, his feelings about the mission as a warrior – is an important part of our society that we never talk about. I knew that some people might misinterpret it for the sake of cheap clicks but I think that disconnect between civilians and the one percent who fight and die for us is worth bringing some attention to. Obviously anybody familiar with my book, my travels to Afghanistan and Iraq and my coverage of troops and veterans knows that this meme is not an accurate one.”

TALE OF THE TAPE: The Twitter battle royale between Tapper and Darcy with a sprinkling of Beck.

12:32 a.m. Oliver Darcy tweets his story.

Tapper, 1:13 a.m. “@oliverdarcy don’t think 1st paragraph is accurate. No one said they died for nothing. Are you at all familiar w my reporting on the war?”

Darcy, 1:17 a.m. “@jaketapper no one bluntly said they died for nothing & that’s not what I reported. you did however make the suggestion repeatedly.”

Darcy, 1:18 a.m. “@jaketapper ’It seemed senseless. I don’t mean to disrespect in any way, but it seemed senseless.’”

Tapper, 1:25 a.m. “@oliverdarcy then quote, don’t mischaracterize.Spent yrs reporting on heroes like these. said clearly I wasn’t saying they died for nothing.:

Tapper, 1:26 a.m. “@oliverdarcy there is a big difference between saying a death is senseless and saying the person died for nothing.”

Darcy, 1:30 a.m. “@jaketapper can you please define what the difference exactly is?”

Darcy, 1:31 a.m. “@jaketapper I don’t want to engage in a twitter argument, just having a hard time following you here… I don’t feel I mischaracterized you.”

Tapper, 1:32 a.m. “@oliverdarcy I emailed you. If you legitimately want to understand the difference you can write me back.”

Glenn Beck, 1:32 a.m. “Jake tapper ‘taking on’ Marcus Luttrell? Jake, I don’t recommend doing that again. Really. But nice save.”

Tapper, 1:36 a.m. “@oliverdarcy you can state what I said or editorialize/judge what you think I was suggesting even tho I dispute it. One is journalism.”

Glenn Beck, 1:39 a.m. “The best my friend has ever been on tv. This is the Marcus the world should know and J. Tapper never met.”

Darcy, 1:40 a.m. “@jaketapper I respect your work, but don’t feel I mischaracterized your comments. I think you did make the suggestion.”

Darcy, 1:41 a.m. “@jaketapper in the interest of being fair, I’ll note that you do disagree with the characterization & would be happy to include a statement.”

Darcy, 1:43 a.m. “@jaketapper If you would like to speak with my editor, you can email my editor @bakerlink at sbaker@theblaze.com.”

Tapper, 2:05 a.m. “@oliverdarcy a person is the best judge of what he is suggesting. Just quote me, no need to put words in my mouth.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: beck; blaze; cnn; lone; lonesurvivor; luttrell; seal; survivor; tapper
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Tapper: "I don’t mean to disrespect in any way, but it seemed senseless — all of these wonderful people who were killed for an op that went wrong.”
Luttrell: "And my guys — what? They died for nothing?”
Tapper: “No, I’m not saying that.”
Except that’s not what Tapper said.

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Yes.
Yes, it is.
It doesn't matter what he meant to say.
That's what he said.
Saying 'I don't mean to be disrespectful' doesn't prevent you from being disrespectful.
At the very least he chose his words poorly.
Here's one of life's little lessons: Don't chose your words poorly when you are speaking with a former SEAL about his dead brothers.


And another thing - Has this author or TheDC got some kind of thing going on against The Blaze? I'm not a huge fan of The Blaze but what's the point of this article?

1 posted on 01/12/2014 9:25:33 AM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Tapper never said that they died for nothing, but Darcy’s headline makes it appear that he did.

The message of the movie is both heroic and tragic, which is the point I think Tapper was trying to make.


2 posted on 01/12/2014 9:41:10 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: servo1969

Jake, we had not lost the war in Afghanistan, until, dumBO took over. From then on you can take about senseless.


3 posted on 01/12/2014 9:41:37 AM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: servo1969

My favorite thing about the interview was the fear in Tapper’s eyes once he realized that this SEAL was pissed. His fear was palpable and understandable. I was amazed at Luttrell’s self-control.


4 posted on 01/12/2014 9:41:37 AM PST by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: servo1969

jake “turd” tapper... I never liked him and I never will.


5 posted on 01/12/2014 9:44:02 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: servo1969

I saw it. Tapper insulted the dead SEALS, the US military, and every American. Then he tried to weasel out of it like a typical leftist.


6 posted on 01/12/2014 9:46:21 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: servo1969
I watched the whole video of Jake Tapper and what he said. Ex-SEAL Marcus Lutrell called him on it; Tapper got that deer in the headlights look and was visibly squirming. Mark Wallberg, who played Lutrell in the movie, tried to smooth things out, but Jake Tapper had wandered into the minefield armed with his liberal attitudes. He triggered a Bouncing Betty mine (Lutrell) and he got absolutely shredded. Good job, Marcus. These pompous, arrogant, media jerks need to have their heads handed to them on a plate.
7 posted on 01/12/2014 9:46:46 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: servo1969
Well of course they will claim what Tapper said, is not what Tapper said.

They have precedent they can cite: Barack Obama.

2010: "If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan. Period. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Period. Nobody's gonna take that from you."

2012: "I never said that."

8 posted on 01/12/2014 9:46:55 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

He was OK while at ABC that he asked some questions that the other obama ass-lickers in the press wouldn’t ask. When you join CNN, it’s in the contract to switch sides.


9 posted on 01/12/2014 9:47:26 AM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: smokingfrog

Tapper was trying to insult the military. He got caught and was scared. It wasn’t about some movie.


10 posted on 01/12/2014 9:48:07 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: servo1969

Luttrel was hypersensitive? He is guilty only of not being a dummy. He is guilty of having an early eye for the impending ambush, an asset sharpened more quickly by watching what passes for US journalism than by his rough treatment at the hands of the Taliban.

Only a FOOL is surprised if the Spidey senses of an American fighting man kick up a notch when around the likes of a presstitute.

Basically we saw a sound and forceful ambush response. And we all should follow his example.


11 posted on 01/12/2014 9:48:39 AM PST by gaijin
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To: servo1969

Am I allowed to say war is senseless anymore? Or will people think I said war is for nothing?


12 posted on 01/12/2014 9:50:36 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: servo1969

Obama “Bengazi was about a video...”

Crowly “Obama said Bengazi was about TERRORISM..!”

THIS OLD PATH HAS LONG BEEN CLEARLY MARKED.


13 posted on 01/12/2014 9:52:25 AM PST by gaijin
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To: smokingfrog
Tapper never said that they died for nothing, <

No... he said senseless...and everybody knows a “senseless” death stands for something!....

14 posted on 01/12/2014 10:03:07 AM PST by M-cubed
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To: ozzymandus

Thank you for your report.


15 posted on 01/12/2014 10:06:56 AM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: 1rudeboy

War makes perfect sense. For example: Someone destroys the WTC and kills 3000 people, it makes complete sense to go to war and wipe them from existence.

What is senseless is the ROEs this war has been fought under.


16 posted on 01/12/2014 10:14:03 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: servo1969
It seemed senseless (done or happening for no reason). I don’t mean to disrespect in any way, but it seemed senseless(done or happening for no reason) — all of these wonderful people who were killed for an op that went wrong.
17 posted on 01/12/2014 10:16:56 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Yeah, now that I've had a beer and had some time to think about it, it appears that Tapper stepped into some doo-doo.

Hey, Jake:


18 posted on 01/12/2014 10:17:22 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: servo1969
“The whole reason I aired that part of the interview was because I think that disconnect – my reaction to the movie as a civilian, his feelings about the mission as a warrior – is an important part of our society that we never talk about.

Actually, Tapper is on to something here, but doesn't know how to discuss it without doing exactly what he did (step into a minefield).

Liberals do have a disconnect with the military because they look down on that "warrior" mindset instead of marveling at and regarding the patriotism that motivates it as a precious human attribute.

They will utterly wreck the military with their PC swill and then wail when there is no one to defend the walls when the city gets sacked by the barbarians.

That day is coming.

19 posted on 01/12/2014 10:17:27 AM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with brute force, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: ozzymandus

If he insulted every American who voted for a foolish politician, then that is a good thing. We are in a bad place as a nation. We all need to beg for God’s forgiveness and mercy.


20 posted on 01/12/2014 10:18:46 AM PST by petitfour
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To: Valpal1
"They will utterly wreck the military with their PC swill and then wail when there is no one to defend the walls when the city gets sacked by the barbarians."

They won't wail - they're the fifth column.

21 posted on 01/12/2014 10:22:29 AM PST by Flag_This (Liberalism: Kills countries dead.)
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To: servo1969

The Daily Caller ridiculously crafts biased headline,


22 posted on 01/12/2014 10:22:42 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: max americana

No doubt he feels much freer to practice his progressive religion at cnn... but I never liked him at abc. You are correct that occasionally he did ask questions that other journolistas would never ask. Being the best turd in a punchbowl does not make you an orange slice. ;-)


23 posted on 01/12/2014 10:27:27 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: gaijin

What you said to the TENTH POWER!


24 posted on 01/12/2014 10:28:25 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: servo1969

Words don’t mean much anymore. What I saw in that exchange was the fantasy world of the self-aggrandizing media that thinks the world revolves around their fantasy coming face-to-face with the cold harsh reality of what it means to be in harms way and seeing your brothers die in war.

I saw fear in Jake Tapper. I despise the media for thinking they are even worthy of asking these men questions.


25 posted on 01/12/2014 10:29:31 AM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: ozzymandus

Thanks!


26 posted on 01/12/2014 10:29:36 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Perfectly stated.


27 posted on 01/12/2014 10:30:04 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: petitfour

Yes indeed!


28 posted on 01/12/2014 10:31:23 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Flag_This

Oh, they will wail for the few seconds between their realization that the barbarians aren’t sparing fifth columnists and the moment their throats are slit.

This is how civilizations fall. The elite sneer at the virtues that built it, those virtues disappear and the foundation collapses and the walls come tumbling down.

Those sneering effetes always think it will be different this time because they’re special, and smarter, etc... but it never is; the ash heap of history is composed of their bones.

I think deep down, Jake Tapper has a warning ping of cognitive dissonance that makes him occasionally ask a hard question, but not quite enough courage to pursue it and so invariably retreats back into the hazy comfort of liberal groupthink.


29 posted on 01/12/2014 10:39:06 AM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with brute force, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: smokingfrog

“Tapper never said that they died for nothing, but Darcy’s headline makes it appear that he did.”

Yes he did! And the guy that was there told Tapper about it.

I watched that interview, he looked like he was going to get up a bust Tapper in the mouth!


30 posted on 01/12/2014 10:46:49 AM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are Affirmative Action for Slackers! .)
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To: MasterGunner01

What got those SEALs and military support killed was the INSANE rules of engagement and the knowledge of what the traitorous American media would do to them if the SEALs did what they knew they needed to do in the first place.


31 posted on 01/12/2014 10:52:04 AM PST by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: 1rudeboy

“Am I allowed to say war is senseless anymore? Or will people think I said war is for nothing?”

You are allowed to say anything you wish,

We are allowed to Flame your ass


32 posted on 01/12/2014 10:56:39 AM PST by DanZ
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To: DanZ

Be my guest. I’m bored.


33 posted on 01/12/2014 10:58:58 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: servo1969

I stopped reading when this ahole nobody Betsy Rothstein referred to Glenn Beck as a “world renowned dingbat.”


34 posted on 01/12/2014 11:00:28 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (The Second Amendment makes all the other amendments possible)
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To: LibLieSlayer

“Being the best turd in a punchbowl does not make you an orange slice. ;-)”

Roger that LOL


35 posted on 01/12/2014 11:03:41 AM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: servo1969

Video is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L3EQffdyw8


36 posted on 01/12/2014 11:09:21 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: max americana

Tapper I expect this BS from.
Daily Caller should be ashamed.


37 posted on 01/12/2014 11:10:44 AM PST by ndafill
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To: 1rudeboy

38 posted on 01/12/2014 11:12:20 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: ozzymandus

Leftists and MSM types don’t understand the difference between movies and real life:

MOVIES: You can ask your friend, or the Director, IN ADVANCE, ‘How does itside tji?’ Then you can decide whether to go see the movie.

REAL LIFE: You don’t know how it’s going to end. You accept the risks involved, train as best you can, then proceed into battle hoping luck and God are on your side as things unfold. Then, after the ending unfolds and you live thru it, MSM reporters pretend they knew the ending before it occurred and declare that based upon their crystal ball, we should have perhaps skipped that mission, and perhaps we should skip future military missions because that mission became a disaster.

It’s the ‘we lost in Vietnam therefore we shouldn’t fight’ approach.


39 posted on 01/12/2014 11:13:29 AM PST by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: LyinLibs

* “how does it end.......”


40 posted on 01/12/2014 11:14:10 AM PST by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
I stopped reading when this ahole nobody Betsy Rothstein referred to Glenn Beck as a “world renowned dingbat.”

not a big fan of crying Glenn....mostly because of the crying. but philosophically I generally agree with him.

41 posted on 01/12/2014 11:14:24 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: 1rudeboy

“Senseless” MEANS “for nothing.”

Maybe it would be better if you stood for something you could admit openly, without being ashamed of it.


42 posted on 01/12/2014 11:23:36 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: servo1969

Video of the interview and Tapper’s after-comments. I found his follow-up comments despicable as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GyROs67Sxc


43 posted on 01/12/2014 11:24:28 AM PST by lonevoice (We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality)
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To: servo1969

Betsy Rothstein is morally revolting, and not nearly as good at lying as she thinks she is. But like the rest of Hillary’s Thugs, she’s been taught that brazen, aggressive hypocrisy is “skill.”

And that she is invisible.


44 posted on 01/12/2014 11:31:19 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: servo1969

Beck has no right to “scold” anyone.


45 posted on 01/12/2014 11:56:36 AM PST by DallasSun
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To: petitfour

If you think Jake Tapper did “a good thing”, then we have nothing to say to each other.


46 posted on 01/12/2014 12:01:54 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: DallasSun

You a Jake Tapper fan?


47 posted on 01/12/2014 12:04:19 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

Yes I am. And even more so, I hold Glenn Beck in contempt. To put it nicely.


48 posted on 01/12/2014 12:17:37 PM PST by DallasSun
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To: ozzymandus

Tapper is one of the biggest champions of our warriors and veterans in the MSM today. Luttrell went off half-cocked.


49 posted on 01/12/2014 12:18:17 PM PST by Benito Cereno
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To: ozzymandus

Since I don’t think Tapper’s intent was to insult foolish American voters, I think we are probably in agreement.


50 posted on 01/12/2014 12:20:24 PM PST by petitfour
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