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Father pays outstanding child support, still gets jail time
Fox 26 ^ | 1/3/2014 | Fox 26

Posted on 01/12/2014 10:48:00 AM PST by Dallas59

HOUSTON (FOX 26) -

Clifford Hall says he's more than happy to pay child support for his 11-year-old son.

"I'm his father it's my responsibility to take care of him," Hall says.

But Hall says when the amount of child support was modified no one told him.

"I discovered for some reason his employer was withholding a large amount some weeks a small amount some weeks a zero amount some weeks," says Hall's attorney Tyesha Elam.

"I didn't want to go to jail basically," Hall says.

So Hall quickly paid almost 3 grand in back child support.

(Excerpt) Read more at myfoxhouston.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: childsupport; jail; texas
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1 posted on 01/12/2014 10:48:00 AM PST by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59

It’s his responsibility to support his child.
Child support is not taken out if the father has been paying.
Having said that, sue the employer for their failure to remove the required amounts


2 posted on 01/12/2014 10:53:41 AM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: Dallas59

That is a really badly written article. But it sounds like the judge needs to be removed from this courtroom.


3 posted on 01/12/2014 10:54:41 AM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Twotone

I had to check to see if it was the same judge I had.


4 posted on 01/12/2014 10:56:15 AM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Twotone
Truly horrible writing. Don't news organizations hire people that know how to write an article? That's why I come here for my news, most Freepers have better writing skills than those in the mainstream media.

I'm sure there's more to the story here but we'll likely never know due to the poorly written article.

5 posted on 01/12/2014 11:00:08 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Dallas59

Too bad he was not a woman. My ex wife has not paid child support since Nov 2011.

I have not raised a stink about it but still....


6 posted on 01/12/2014 11:01:11 AM PST by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: svcw
Child support is not taken out if the father has been paying.

Don't you think that might depend on the state?

7 posted on 01/12/2014 11:03:17 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: DirtyPigpen

While I understand some men not collecting child support from their ex-wives, I am struck by how many women I know have gone after their ex-husbands for miniscule amounts just to ‘stick it to them’.


8 posted on 01/12/2014 11:07:42 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: DirtyPigpen

My ex wife had to pay me child support, and I took a guilty pleasure in watching the Contempt of Court hearings. One time it was before a Commissioner who spent two minutes chewing *me* out for not paying the support, touching on every point he could about what a mean and rotten person I was. I let him go on and on, then when he got through his spiel, I asked him if he was finished yet. He got really angry then.

That’s when I told him I’m the payee, and not the payer, and was willing to accept his apology. You don’t often get to enjoy a laugh at the court’s expense.


9 posted on 01/12/2014 11:10:01 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: svcw

In Texas, all child support is garnished from wages. No choice.

/johnny


10 posted on 01/12/2014 11:10:07 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

My ex told me point-blank she didn’t believe women should ever have to pay child support. I told her she can take that attitude right to jail, which she then did. Several times.


11 posted on 01/12/2014 11:11:30 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

It’s only 42.00 damn bucks a week.

If it were me, is be under the jail.

Just can’t stand the double standards and hypocrisy.


12 posted on 01/12/2014 11:11:40 AM PST by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I would have loved to have been in there.


13 posted on 01/12/2014 11:13:33 AM PST by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: DirtyPigpen
And THIS is why I advise my daughter to, and my son never to get married.
14 posted on 01/12/2014 11:16:55 AM PST by null and void (It is as if they all had one head. Too bad they don't all have one neck.)
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To: DirtyPigpen

It was an unexpected pleasure. Every time I dragged her in for a Contempt of Court hearing was a good thing because I knew where she was going after the hearing, and that one time was truly icing on the cake.

There were times when the roles of payer/payee were reversed, and I was never so much as a day late or a dollar short.


15 posted on 01/12/2014 11:17:38 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: null and void

Sage advice. The “Family Courts” are so out of whack a man doesn’t have a chance. I should note that in the instances described above, I had to force the court to do something about her delinquencies. They would never have bothered to try to collect, left to their own devices.

While women have advocates to help them through the process, men do not.


16 posted on 01/12/2014 11:20:57 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Dallas59

Things are bad when I find myself in agreement with Quannell X.


17 posted on 01/12/2014 11:25:17 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Dallas59

Men go to jail, thanks to laws passed under threat by feminazis.


18 posted on 01/12/2014 11:31:25 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Dallas59

It’s even worst in the God Forsaken State of New Jersey. After your child support ends, you have to file for Emancipation. This will cost you another $3000-5000 for it to be finally over.


19 posted on 01/12/2014 11:34:39 AM PST by Capt_Hank (btu's...kcal's...to kJ's, but my activation energy is still high.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Wish I had been there to see that. I do enjoy when a self-righteous idiot is forced to eat some crow immediately after their spiel.

Did that with one idiot they made “boss” on a consulting job. Came to my office all in a huff demanding to know why I wasn’t at “the meeting”.

What “meeting” I asked? One that had just completed. I said I have no record of it. Could you have picked up the internal phone and dialed my desk? I’d have been there in a hot minute, immediately, while it was gathering.

Then he told me he emailed me the meeting. I must have missed it, you still should have called me (searching my inbox). No email.

Then I demanded to see the email he sent. No, no, no, he said.

No, I said, let’s go.

The idiot sent it to everyone at the meeting BUT ME.

I told him, next time, call me, I’ll be there and don’t blame me for an email where you specifically forgot ME.


20 posted on 01/12/2014 12:05:38 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: JRandomFreeper

The father of my grandson lives in Florida. The state of Texas has Florida garnish his wages. If they did not, he would never pay a penny in child support. And hi Johnny. It is good to see you.


21 posted on 01/12/2014 12:07:42 PM PST by DallasSun
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To: null and void

It certainly puts a lot of fear in one’s head; what goes on.


22 posted on 01/12/2014 12:08:19 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: DirtyPigpen

“If it were me, is be under the jail.”

Huh?


23 posted on 01/12/2014 12:10:48 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Did not know that, good


24 posted on 01/12/2014 12:18:06 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

Really having to take the father to court to force them to pay child support, is sticking it to them.
It would not be an issue if fathers supported their childen.


25 posted on 01/12/2014 12:19:51 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: F15Eagle

If I was required to pay child support and did not do so for the same amount of time, or less, as my ex wife has I would not only be in jail but under it.

comprende muchacho


26 posted on 01/12/2014 12:22:41 PM PST by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: svcw

Yeah, fathers never support their children.

Way to make a blanket statement.


27 posted on 01/12/2014 12:24:30 PM PST by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: svcw

Excuse me - I wasn’t talking to you.

Don’t you dare twist my words.


28 posted on 01/12/2014 12:24:54 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: DirtyPigpen

The sentence you typed makes no sense.

I was asking you to retype that short sentence.

Comprendo?


29 posted on 01/12/2014 12:29:37 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Dallas59

The government demands a nation of bastards.


30 posted on 01/12/2014 12:34:52 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama - "I will stand with the Muslims")
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To: svcw

My husband has paid child support for the last 14 years for his three kids and was never late or short with a payment. His ex used the court system as a weapon and continued to make false allegations for the sole purpose of making his life miserable. It’s my guess that this scenario probably occurs more than we would care to admit.


31 posted on 01/12/2014 12:36:00 PM PST by MNGal
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To: F15Eagle
It certainly puts a lot of fear in one’s head; what goes on.

perhaps.

What should really give one pause is the simple fact that, on the average, for the guy the actual served penalties for murder are less than the penalties for divorce.

32 posted on 01/12/2014 12:36:31 PM PST by null and void (It is as if they all had one head. Too bad they don't all have one neck.)
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To: Twotone
it sounds like the judge needs to be removed from this courtroom.

Seems to me there's lot of that going around these days.

33 posted on 01/12/2014 12:36:50 PM PST by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

I am permitted reply to anyone who posts a reply, you used the phrase “stick it to them” not me.


34 posted on 01/12/2014 12:38:10 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: MNGal

Average served term for 1st degree murder is 7 years. At the end of which he would have been released debt free...


35 posted on 01/12/2014 12:41:41 PM PST by null and void (It is as if they all had one head. Too bad they don't all have one neck.)
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To: F15Eagle

Ok


36 posted on 01/12/2014 12:42:11 PM PST by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: null and void

I’m certain the thought crossed his mind at some point, but he’s an honorable man. :-)


37 posted on 01/12/2014 12:43:13 PM PST by MNGal
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To: MNGal
Yep. If not at the time, at the seven year "post partum" point...
38 posted on 01/12/2014 12:46:14 PM PST by null and void (It is as if they all had one head. Too bad they don't all have one neck.)
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To: null and void

Yikes


39 posted on 01/12/2014 12:46:28 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Yep, even if the divorce was in another state and Texas has nothing to do with the case. And Texas will follow the dad around and collect from banks & employers in other states. But some posters are EXPERTS and you can't tell them anything.
40 posted on 01/12/2014 12:49:47 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

>>That’s when I told him I’m the payee,<<

It had to be fun to watch him backtrack!


41 posted on 01/12/2014 12:50:07 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Dallas59

1. If a payer (in this case, the dad) is incarcerated, the child support is abated (he doesn’t have to pay for the time he’s in jail).

2. Having a payor in jail in not “in the best interest of the child”.

3. Really, the dude got 6 mos. for disrespecting the judge.

4. It is up to the Friend of the Court to notify payers of all court proceedings. In this case, either Dad simply didn’t get notitifed, his attorney didn’t get notification, or the both of them are really, really dumb. My vote is that the court did not notify them.

5. The employer should be held liable for the “a lot this week, not so much next week” method of payment.

Summation: This guy is getting screwed by the system. His attorney should refund any payment he’s received. The employer should be charged with withholding payment. And the judge needs to get over herself. And who is deprived out of all of this? The child. Sorry, in this case, it is all about the children.


42 posted on 01/12/2014 12:52:01 PM PST by blu
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To: B4Ranch

It was. He stammered a bit. I said “I’ll accept a simple ‘I apologize’ and then we can move on to the business at hand. I figure the purge will be about $1300?”

It was, and off she went in cuffs until she scraped it up. I really don’t know which aspect I liked the most.


43 posted on 01/12/2014 12:54:10 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: F15Eagle

Yikes indeed.


44 posted on 01/12/2014 12:54:15 PM PST by null and void (It is as if they all had one head. Too bad they don't all have one neck.)
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To: null and void

I read a report a while back that said in DC the average time served for murder was 7.5 years and for armed robbery of a convenience store it was 5.5 years...

Great motivation for the robber to shoot the only witness.

Does not apply at all to child support discussion.


45 posted on 01/12/2014 1:04:13 PM PST by BwanaNdege
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My sons ex-wife was ordered by a court in Texas to pay child support as well as provide insurance for my grandson. She does neither. She lives in New Mexico at an address that we supplied to the AG. He receives no money and I pay for the child’s insurance. We pushed all the buttons that we know of...to no avail. The system doesn’t always work.


46 posted on 01/12/2014 1:16:05 PM PST by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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To: F15Eagle
Wish I had been there to see that. I do enjoy when a self-righteous idiot is forced to eat some crow immediately after their spiel.

Was talking to a guy who was an organizer for a gun show near a city's airport. He was telling about a call he had recently had from the city tax office screaming at him over not filing required sales tax paperwork with the city, and how he was in such enormous legal trouble.

The organizer took such pleasure in telling the tax guy "The site is just across the border in [adjoining suburban county], f***head", and hanging up.

47 posted on 01/12/2014 1:28:56 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Twotone

It sounds to me like he was in a show cause hearing and walked out. You don’t get to go until the Court says so.


48 posted on 01/12/2014 1:32:35 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Sage advice. The “Family Courts” are so out of whack a man doesn’t have a chance. I should note that in the instances described above, I had to force the court to do something about her delinquencies. They would never have bothered to try to collect, left to their own devices.

A friend of mine got divorced from his bipolar wife. She got the kids and he dutifully paid child support for several years. Then the kids decided they would rather live with Dad, and they were cramping her dating style anyway, so she agreed to give him custody.

He asked me if I thought he should ask HER for child support. I told him, "do you REALLY want to give her a reason to not go ahead with giving you custody?". At least this way he stopped paying child support to her, while still having to buy the kids clothing, school supplies, etc.

49 posted on 01/12/2014 1:35:40 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

You dudes make more money driving a freaking truck or digging a ditch or running some backhoe than these poor gals can make with their little $10 an hour office jobs. What kind of union jobs do women have? None. Still. Even with “women’s lib” which is really men’s lib because now y’all can mess around without any condemnation. If you are treating your child’s mother poorly, you are setting a horrible example for your child.


50 posted on 01/12/2014 1:37:15 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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