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Why John Roberts (Likely) Is Protecting Obamacare
http://www.westernjournalism.com ^ | January 9, 2014 | Dr. Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 01/12/2014 12:37:25 PM PST by Para-Ord.45

On Monday, without comment (because he could not make a coherent one), Chief Justice John Roberts denied a request by the Association of American Physicians & Surgeons and the Alliance for Natural Health USA for a stay in the implementation of Obamacare. The groups had made their application last Friday, arguing that since the bill had been declared a tax by the Supreme Court (with Justice Roberts himself the deciding vote), and it had originated in the Senate (the Constitution says revenue bills may not originate), the law was therefore unconstitutional; and implementation of Obamacare should at least be stayed pending further examination.

While there are other minor issues attached to the application that were also not addressed, the truth of the matter is clear: John Roberts will never do anything to derail Obamacare, no matter what arguments against it are brought before him.

There is very good reason to believe that regardless of the media’s skillful smothering of the story, John Roberts is being blackmailed to make certain Obamacare never falls in a Supreme Court case. The basis of this charge surrounds the fact that a series of strange (and probably felonious) acts are attached to the adoption of his two children.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; aca; bhoscotus; deathpanels; johnroberts; lawsuit; obamacare; robertscourt; scotus; zerocare
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1 posted on 01/12/2014 12:37:25 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

is one blog not good enough for “Coach”?

Shouldn’t be in News.


2 posted on 01/12/2014 12:40:06 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Para-Ord.45

http://housedocs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf


3 posted on 01/12/2014 12:41:04 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Para-Ord.45

I’m not sure that Roberts could be removed from his position if this came out. Anyone know whether he could be impeached? As to the adoption - if it was felonious, then he needs to deal with it. I don’t know how but these sort of problems only get worse the longer they are hidden.


4 posted on 01/12/2014 12:43:51 PM PST by Mercat
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To: Para-Ord.45
Uhh, because he was caught driving this?


5 posted on 01/12/2014 12:44:04 PM PST by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. Don’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
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To: Para-Ord.45

sandra day says we should not criticize our hard working judges,
i think many of them ought be hung


6 posted on 01/12/2014 12:45:41 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: Joe Boucher; ntnychik; potlatch
Roberts Donated Help to Gay Rights Case
7 posted on 01/12/2014 12:54:29 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Does anyone have a link to a copy of the stay request? Was it made as part of a larger, ongoing case, or was it just an uninvited shot out of the blue?


8 posted on 01/12/2014 12:54:49 PM PST by Oceander (TINSTAAFL - Mother Nature Abhors a Free Lunch almost as much as She Abhors a Vacuum)
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To: Para-Ord.45

I have a hard time explaining a lot of politician votes without blackmail being a factor.

I don’t know if this story has any truth to it, but I suspect blackmail is a widespread problem in our government.

Anyone remember Maxine Waters talking about the Democrats super database with info on everyone?


9 posted on 01/12/2014 12:55:09 PM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Joe Boucher

Ditto to what you said. They’re all liars and crooks. They have no respect for the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. Immigration isn’t broken. Our judicial system is broken and needs to be reformed or shut down right now. What we have is not what the Founding Fathers intended. Laws should not be made from a court bench by non-elected “judges”. That’s just asking for trouble as we are now seeing.


10 posted on 01/12/2014 12:58:19 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where are Holder's "po folks" getting the I.D.s to sign up for ObamaCare?)
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To: Para-Ord.45

It has become almost impossible for someone to rise to great prominence unless they are corrupted. The Powers That Be will open doors to those they can control via bribery or blackmail - and Roberts in this regard is not much different from obanghole, clinton, holder, and 75% of the senate.


11 posted on 01/12/2014 12:58:24 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: neverdem; narses; SunkenCiv; Nachum; Mercat
While this type of speculation - and it can at this stage only be speculation - I am much more concerned with exactly what phrases were used in BOTH of Obama's "private inaugurations" under Robert's ever-compliant "watchful eye" ... Sure, there were supposedly reasons for Obama's "do-over" but isn't it interesting that Obama was sworn in in private both times?

But, then again, when he swears to defend America against "all enemies foreign and domestic" Obama ONLY will be identifying, attacking, and destroying HIS "domestic" enemies ... Because, to Obama and his administration, (white, male, Christian, capitalist, patriotic) "America" IS the enemy!

12 posted on 01/12/2014 12:58:31 PM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

“The basis of this charge surrounds the fact that a series of strange (and probably felonious) acts are attached to the adoption of his two children.”

More than likely this is exactly what Roberts is being blackmailed for.

Around the time of his confirmation one of the major news affiliates tried to get the details of the adoption of Roberts 2 children which had been sealed. It caused suck a bruhaha that they finally gave it up.

Roberts two adopted children are from Ireland. The law in Ireland forbids any Irish children from being adopted and moved out of the country. Supposedly Roberts tried an end run around the law by having the two pregnant women leave Ireland and go to Argentina, give birth and then sign the children away to Roberts.. Then they flew back to Ireland and Roberts came home to the US with the two infants.


13 posted on 01/12/2014 12:58:55 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Bingo.....Roberts is being BLACKMAILED because of his ILLEGAL 2 kids adoptions. How very sad for our country.


14 posted on 01/12/2014 1:01:12 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Or else he’s GAY.


15 posted on 01/12/2014 1:01:57 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Mercat

He can be impeached. A lot of Judges need to be impeached but it isn’t going to happen, which is one of many reasons the place is going to Hell in a handbasket.


16 posted on 01/12/2014 1:02:49 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Joe Boucher

“i think many of them ought be hung”
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I don’t know about that but I think some of them deserve to be hanged.


17 posted on 01/12/2014 1:03:47 PM PST by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
I think he's being blackmailed over something or bribed with huge riches, but the wrongful adoption?.....not a chance that would be enough to blackmail him, unless he solicited the murder of the kids parents....

every normal person understands the heartache of not being able to produce children, and the intense desire to have children....

no, its something else...wouldn't at all be surprised if he was similar to the obamma orientation....wouldn't be surprised at all....

18 posted on 01/12/2014 1:05:18 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: Mount Athos
"Anyone remember Maxine Waters talking about the Democrats super database with info on everyone?"

Yep. And, she was sent to the woodshed for flapping her gums about it. Mighty quiet these days, isn't she?
19 posted on 01/12/2014 1:05:52 PM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Obama and holder have the goods on Roberst and Roberts is their personal puppet.


20 posted on 01/12/2014 1:06:20 PM PST by Iron Munro (Orwell: There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

The phoney adaption is all or a good part of the reason. Obama was gloating two weeks before the SC decision that the SC would not defy what Congress passed. Will of the people expressed via Congress. Obama telegraphed this decision. 0bama knew he had Roberts in the bag


21 posted on 01/12/2014 1:08:17 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Ann Archy
I always wondered about this pic:


22 posted on 01/12/2014 1:08:51 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: cherry

Regardless of tgecemotiins surrounding adoption, Roberts is still supposed to follow the letter of the law and not just the spirit. If he’s broken the law, and it’s a sufficiently serious matter, he can go to hljail over it.


23 posted on 01/12/2014 1:10:37 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Ann Archy

“Or else he’s GAY”

I think its more likely the kids adoption. Gay is so in who would care? What difference does it make? :-)


24 posted on 01/12/2014 1:14:04 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Is avoiding a scandal on the adoption worth the potential tyranny of the left?


25 posted on 01/12/2014 1:16:18 PM PST by Thorliveshere (Minnesota Survivor)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Likely? Probably?


26 posted on 01/12/2014 1:16:53 PM PST by caveat emptor (!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Because he is a Lefty who fooled Bush into thinking he was a conservative.


27 posted on 01/12/2014 1:18:17 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Para-Ord.45
By strange coincidence, in 1937 Republican and presumed conservative, USSC Justice Owen Roberts voted to affirm the Constitutionality of the Social Security Act.

From the Wiki:
"Steward Machine Company v. Davis, 301 U.S, 548[8] (1937) held, in a 5–4 decision, that, given the exigencies of the Great Depression, "[It] is too late today for the argument to be heard with tolerance that in a crisis so extreme the use of the moneys of the nation to relieve the unemployed and their dependents is a use for any purpose narrower than the promotion of the general welfare". The arguments opposed to the Social Security Act (articulated by justices Butler, McReynolds, and Sutherland in their opinions) were that the social security act went beyond the powers that were granted to the federal government in the Constitution. They argued that, by imposing a tax on employers that could be avoided only by contributing to a state unemployment-compensation fund, the federal government was essentially forcing each state to establish an unemployment-compensation fund that would meet its criteria, and that the federal government had no power to enact such a program."

28 posted on 01/12/2014 1:19:29 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: carriage_hill

Why.....should I know who the other two guys are in that picture?


29 posted on 01/12/2014 1:20:36 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (I am the Tea Party bully who took Mitch McConnell's milk money.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Roberts ruled that essential aspects of the “Affordable Care Act” constitute a tax. To have standing to challenge a tax, someone has to have suffered damage by actually being forced to pay it. The group suing hasn’t paid it, so they have no standing. Therefore, Roberts rationally denies their request for a stay.

I’ll put the conspiracy theories on hold until someone actually pays the tax, challenges it, and works a case through the court system to the SC. The sooner that happens the better, since we are one “conservative” justice away from rubber stamp approval. Waiting for all this bs sucks, but that is how the law works.


30 posted on 01/12/2014 1:30:56 PM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: Para-Ord.45

Wow. I am going to cut to the chase here: Roberts was most likely blackmailed. But he was playing chess while obastard, Soros, and crew were playing checkers. In the end, Roberts (who really is on the side of the Constitution) wins. But there is and will be ugliness before victory. Welcome to war.


31 posted on 01/12/2014 1:37:11 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
 photo fantasyislandcopy_zpsb74840b6.jpg

32 posted on 01/12/2014 1:39:35 PM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

I hope not.


33 posted on 01/12/2014 1:40:32 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill

Why does the picture worry you or why do you wonder about it?


34 posted on 01/12/2014 1:42:19 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (I am the Tea Party bully who took Mitch McConnell's milk money.)
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To: Joe Boucher

Tarred, feathered, rolled up in an old carpet, tied down on the deck of a rusty steamer and sent to the Far East. That would satisfy me. 98% of judges are stinking liberals and do not read the law, they MAKE UP law.


35 posted on 01/12/2014 1:43:26 PM PST by RetiredArmy (I am proud to be a Christian and follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short for U to know Him!)
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To: Mount Athos

“Anyone remember Maxine Waters talking about the Democrats super database with info on everyone?”

.....Or so she claims.


36 posted on 01/12/2014 1:45:03 PM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

If we knew the nature of the relationship Roberts has with,those two men, it may explain why he could be blackmailed.


37 posted on 01/12/2014 1:45:27 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

Ya gotta admit, those guys look gay


38 posted on 01/12/2014 1:50:34 PM PST by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: Para-Ord.45

39 posted on 01/12/2014 1:53:46 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

I’ve seen it posted here on FR numerous times with references to a younger Roberts being with his homo friends, and wondered if that was true. I could never track down the other 2 in the pic, nor do I care, but the posters’ statements lingered.


40 posted on 01/12/2014 1:57:36 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

A simple Google search turns-up these many gay refs:

http://www.towleroad.com/2005/08/gay_vague_reare.html

http://underneaththeirrobes.blogs.com/main/2005/08/more_grist_for_.html

https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=john+roberts+gay&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest


41 posted on 01/12/2014 2:01:37 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I have long thought that much of our problem with faithless GOP politicians is their WIVES. Laura Bush, in particular. They really love those illegal aliens, for instance, so they can keep huge houses in several locales.


42 posted on 01/12/2014 2:03:55 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Para-Ord.45

One thing about Roberts, once he’s BOUGHT, he STAYS bought.


43 posted on 01/12/2014 2:06:36 PM PST by CMailBag
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To: Chewbarkah
look....there was no standing on what Roberts ruled in the first place....

obamacare was enacted illegally IMO and it has been protected illegally....

the justices can interpret whatever they want or are demanded....

the law is an ass....because language is an ass...."is" can be anything at all.....

anyway, I'm tired of rulings being explained away because of the constitution or laws or past rulings etc as if any of that means anything...the judges rule whatever they want anyday of the week, and never answer for it.....

44 posted on 01/12/2014 2:09:25 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: RetiredArmy

keel hauling is one of my favorites


45 posted on 01/12/2014 2:11:06 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: Para-Ord.45; a fool in paradise

Roberts is NOT being blackmailed. Turn off that idiot box and stop reading penny dreadfuls about the cosa nostra. Is the adoption story true? If yes, then no overt blackmailing is ever required. Roberts CAN be blackmailed, D’UH. He’s in effect blackmailing hisself.


46 posted on 01/12/2014 2:12:15 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: RipSawyer

benito musolinni style from a corner lamp post.
Left for all who pass to see.


47 posted on 01/12/2014 2:13:43 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: Mamzelle
" have long thought that much of our problem with faithless GOP politicians is their WIVES."

oh for crying out loud....first you don't blame democrats and then you don't want to offend republicans and you don't want to offend faithless GOP politicians BUT you will go after their wives......

you didn't throw any blame on global warming or the Catholic church, I'll hand you that....

otherwise, another blame everyone except the perp which is a very very liberal idea....

48 posted on 01/12/2014 2:14:19 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: Para-Ord.45

... . . . ... ... . . . ... ..... Connect the dots: John Roberts is being blackmailed!


49 posted on 01/12/2014 2:24:28 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
This post is deceptive because Judge Roberts has done no such thing.

All he has done is refused to put a stay on ObamaCare to shut it down while pending litigation filed by Physicians and Surgeons works it's way through the courts.

The Physicians and Surgeons have active litigation in place, but it is not clear that the circumstances of their case warrants a stay, so a stay could be premature.

The reality is that the American people voted twice for the people who forced this legislation and will be forced to live with it until such time as it is repealed or overturned.

The best way to get rid of ObamaCare is to allow people live with the consequences of it and of their actions.

50 posted on 01/12/2014 2:25:53 PM PST by rdcbn
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