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California Democrats Push 'Comprehensive' Background Checks for Ammo Purchases
breitbart ^ | 1/12/2014 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 01/12/2014 12:59:15 PM PST by Nachum

Following the passage of a lead ammunition ban and a plethora of new gun control laws in 2013, California Democrats now say they will push for "comprehensive" background checks on all ammunition purchases in the state.

According to The Washington Post, CA State Senator Kevin de Leon (D) said, "Anyone can walk into any gun store, a bait and tackle store, and purchase all the ammunition they want to, no questions asked."

He said it ought not be so: "The ammunition is the fuel that feeds the violence. The gun itself, the hand gun or long gun or the high-powered weapon is the delivery device. The gas, the fuel, is the ammunition, and no one knows who buys it."

As Breitbart News reported on December 28, "comprehensive" background checks on gun purchases in CA ended private gun sales and led to a firearm registry in that state. Confiscation laws are also in place.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; ammo; banglist; california; comprehensive; democrats; guncontrol; gungrabbers
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Foolish. It will drive a black market.
1 posted on 01/12/2014 12:59:16 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Have similar ID checks for Voting in elections.


2 posted on 01/12/2014 1:00:53 PM PST by 4Liberty (Mr President 'If you Like your college transcripts...can we see them?')
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To: Nachum

“...in their wisdom, they became as fools....”
There are not enough horses in all of Texas to drag me back to that God-forsaken crap hole.


3 posted on 01/12/2014 1:04:10 PM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: Nachum

What about “dem po’ folks” that are too poor or can’t get “into town” to get an I.D.? They’ll be disenfranchised! This is racism. Where the hell is Eric the Holder?! These people’s Second Amendment rights are being violated. He needs to sue the hell out of the California Nazicrats.


4 posted on 01/12/2014 1:05:12 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where are Holder's "po folks" getting the I.D.s to sign up for ObamaCare?)
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To: Nachum

Do the terms “comprehensive” and “common-sense” generate instant red flags with anybody else these days, or is it just me?


5 posted on 01/12/2014 1:05:21 PM PST by Antihero101607
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To: Nachum
He said it ought not be so: "The ammunition is the fuel that feeds the violence. The gun itself, the hand gun or long gun or the high-powered weapon is the delivery device. The gas, the fuel, is the ammunition, and no one knows who buys it."

I'd say no-fault divorce, an intentional diminishment of the whole idea of shame, classism, the welfare state, and a few other things are the fuel that feeds the violence.
6 posted on 01/12/2014 1:05:31 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Nachum
More laws restricting law abiding citizens. And they think criminals will obey them? Why? This is foolishness. Complete idiocy. It will not impact criminals in the least.
7 posted on 01/12/2014 1:09:35 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Nachum

“Anyone can walk into any gun store, a bait and tackle store, and purchase all the ammunition they want to, no questions asked.” ...... I thought there was an age restriction i.e. 18 yrs or older.


8 posted on 01/12/2014 1:10:48 PM PST by PDGearhead (Obama's lack of citizenship)
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To: Nachum

IRONY

Anyone who lived in California back in the 60’s and 70’s knows that many people moved there from other states to escape what they saw as stodgy, oppressive Nanny State laws.

California was then the wide open state where freedom from government control and domination was a big attraction.

Now California has turned into one of the most oppresive, Big Government, Nanny States in the union.


9 posted on 01/12/2014 1:15:23 PM PST by Iron Munro (Orwell: There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

WithHolder, Shealeeah Jackson Lee, Jessie Jahhhhckson, Al Sharpton...and ALL of the race hustlers need to stop this CA disenfranchisement, fast!!


10 posted on 01/12/2014 1:17:26 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Nachum
While they're at it they should enact “comprehensive” ID checks when registering to vote *and* at the polling place.
11 posted on 01/12/2014 1:17:29 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Nachum

I need to set up an ammo shop on the border in Nevada.


12 posted on 01/12/2014 1:24:35 PM PST by Washi (Stop Obama's War On Jobs)
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To: Nachum

Can Ca.please fall into the ocean and vanish!


13 posted on 01/12/2014 1:25:38 PM PST by plainshame
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To: Washi
I need to set up an ammo shop on the border in Nevada.

Not to mention ammo shops in Arizona, Washingon, Oregon, Texas, New Mexico, and Utah.

$$$$$$$$

14 posted on 01/12/2014 1:27:10 PM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum
But, of course, this will not be enough.

They will need to enact:

  1. Storage requirements. A gun safe must be purchased that has a minimum of 3 inch tempered steel walls.
  2. Ammo taxes of 200% of the price of the ammunition must be levied, to give to programs that preach that guns are evil.
  3. Transportation of any firearm, to the range, for conceal carry, for repair -- for any reason -- must be done by application, 3 to 7 months prior to the proposed transportation. Environmental Impact Statements must be filed, and approved by, the EPA in Washington DC. If granted, the permit to transport (with all accompanying information) must be filed with each law enforcement agency through which territory the firearm will be passing through, at the city, state, and federal level.
  4. Biometric firearms are now required. Three successful fingerprint swipes in a row, with a subsequent retinal scan, followed by a password, must be entered into any firearm before it can be activated.
  5. No bullets may be made out lead, because it pollutes the environment; nor any other metal, because it defeats ballistic vests. Wood may not be used, either, due to the concerns of preserving woodstands. Plastic causes pollution on a global scale. Cotton is not allowed, due to racial overtones. Tissue paper bullets may be considered, but only after a 3-panel commission meets and approves the concept.
  6. No firearm may be possessed by any person who has been charged with, or convicted of, any crime whatsoever -- including traffic and parking tickets. If we cannot trust you with a car, what makes you think we can trust you with a GUN?

Obviously, this is only a common-sense start. Many more regulations will be forthcoming.

15 posted on 01/12/2014 1:28:26 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Nachum

I couldn’t help but notice the concern about no one knowing who buys ammunition. Well, we can’t have that; it’s important that the “authorities” know who’s doing what. Nothing should escape their purview, nothing.

What a bunch of control freaks!


16 posted on 01/12/2014 1:29:11 PM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Nachum

CA has ammo on the shelves?


17 posted on 01/12/2014 1:29:57 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Nachum

All you have to do is the same thing as fireworks, guns, cigarettes - drive to Nevada or Arizona, buy what you want, and bring it back home.


18 posted on 01/12/2014 1:30:34 PM PST by struggle
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To: PDGearhead
"purchase all the ammunition they want to"

Uh, NOT these days 'tards.

Bammy is an even better ammo salesman than he is a gun salesman.

19 posted on 01/12/2014 1:31:18 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Nachum
"Anyone can walk into any gun store, a bait and tackle store, and purchase all the ammunition they want to, no questions asked."

Yes. It's call Liberty.

20 posted on 01/12/2014 1:32:09 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Nachum

Exactly! You will see garage reloaders supplying the illegal gun owners and criminals. it will be as effective as the excessive cigarette taxes on the east coast, and by effective I mean driving even more illegal trade.


21 posted on 01/12/2014 1:32:38 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Nachum; All
But why don't California Democrats first establish background checks for swimming pool and hot tub owners since such things are evidently more lethal to kids than guns are?
FR: Swimming Pools Six Times as Deadly for Kids as Guns

22 posted on 01/12/2014 1:33:10 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Nachum

The CA lead ammo ban was just the first step in their goal to make ammo and guns illegal. They won’t stop as long as the idiots keep electing them.

I have a feeling the Colorado liberals are going to be taught a lesson in Nov, but it will take a lot more for CA voters to push back.


23 posted on 01/12/2014 1:33:46 PM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are Affirmative Action for Slackers! .)
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To: Nachum

Come on, quite messing around, Democrats. It’s finally time to make it illegal to use a gun when committing a rape, robbery or murder. What are you waiting for? You have the votes to pass such a ground-breaking measure.


24 posted on 01/12/2014 1:34:48 PM PST by barefoot_hiker
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To: Gay State Conservative
While they're at it they should enact “comprehensive” ID checks when registering to vote *and* at the polling place.

Racist. Why do you hate black people?

25 posted on 01/12/2014 1:38:03 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Nachum

CA gun owners don’t have 2A rights. They have privileges doled out at the discretion of the ruling class. Every legislative session, there is new infrigements. In another few election cycles, the CA gun owners will be predomnantly disarmed.


26 posted on 01/12/2014 1:38:47 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: Antihero101607

I hear the word ‘common sense’, and I replace it mentally with the words ‘criminally insane and fascist as well’.


27 posted on 01/12/2014 1:39:12 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Nachum

Sometimes “silly” is the only adjective one can think of. In this case, this is silly.


28 posted on 01/12/2014 1:39:25 PM PST by DallasSun
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To: Beagle8U

To All,
tell me sumthain’ I don’t know ,,,


29 posted on 01/12/2014 1:42:33 PM PST by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: 4Liberty
Have similar ID checks for Voting in elections.

And especially state legislative candidates.

30 posted on 01/12/2014 1:44:11 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Lazamataz

Interesting isn’t it, when people call for voter ID
they are “suppressing civil rights” but when they
call for ammo ID it’s not “suppressing civil rights”.??


31 posted on 01/12/2014 1:45:19 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Antihero101607

Any thinking person, yes.


32 posted on 01/12/2014 1:45:56 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Antihero101607

You’re not alone. The Left is inherently totalitarian.


33 posted on 01/12/2014 1:46:14 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Mastador1

Your key word is “illegal.” In a stroke of the pen they’ll turn honest citizens into criminals for exercising a Constitutional right. They’ve already done it to the First Amendment with Hate Speech laws.


34 posted on 01/12/2014 1:51:30 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Big Red Badger

“To All,
tell me sumthain’ I don’t know ,,,”

A well known University study proved that squirrels forced to smoke 20 joints a day tended to play with their nuts, rather that storing them.

Did ya know that?


35 posted on 01/12/2014 1:53:41 PM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are Affirmative Action for Slackers! .)
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To: 4Liberty

Good point. Voting is every bit as important as gun ownership and done by the wrong person even more dangerous.

This should be point we should drive home. You wanna background check for firearms/related stuff, then we wanna background check all candidates for government positions and people who want to vote for the first time.


36 posted on 01/12/2014 2:06:22 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: Nachum
"......comprehensive background checks"?

Gosh, isn't that racist, sexist or something awful?

I mean when we conservatives demand similar checks for voting or federal jobs even Presidential candidates, aren't we called all manner of evil names?

37 posted on 01/12/2014 2:08:06 PM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Nachum

And they fight “checks” on if a voter is legal or not or is required to prove that they can vote.


38 posted on 01/12/2014 2:28:23 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Nachum


39 posted on 01/12/2014 2:37:37 PM PST by Iron Munro (Orwell: There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.)
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To: Nachum

Comprehensive background checks for Congressmen and especially (congress)WOMEN should be de rigueur..

should I mention Presidential candidates?... OK I will...


40 posted on 01/12/2014 2:48:39 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: andyk

***I’d say no-fault divorce, an intentional diminishment of the whole idea of shame, classism, the welfare state, and a few other things are the fuel that feeds the violence.***

-Blasphemy! CNN tells me if we get rid of all the guns, all our problems be solved and everyone will live in a perfect utopia of peace & love for all eternity...Why would they lie?


41 posted on 01/12/2014 2:49:46 PM PST by woodro43
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To: lgjhn23
There are not enough horses in all of Texas to drag me back to that God-forsaken crap hole.

Born and raised Californio now living in Texas. I couldn't agree more.

42 posted on 01/12/2014 2:58:27 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Nachum

Another law will prevent crime just as well as all the other anti-gun laws have.


43 posted on 01/12/2014 3:01:23 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The War on Drugs has been used as an excuse to steal your rights. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Iron Munro
The picture you posted gave me pause to reflect; what ever became of our beloved Belly Girl?
44 posted on 01/12/2014 3:08:01 PM PST by Refugee From NYC
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To: Nachum

Solution: There will be a lot of shops opening on the CA-NV border selling ammo to Californians with no questions asked for hard cash.


45 posted on 01/12/2014 3:25:25 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: Nachum

If only they would apply the same standards to those seeking public office like POTUS.


46 posted on 01/12/2014 3:27:50 PM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: PDGearhead

And a money restriction!


47 posted on 01/12/2014 4:03:08 PM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: Beagle8U

Sounds good to me !
gotta find me a Squirrel,,,


48 posted on 01/12/2014 4:05:25 PM PST by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: Refugee From NYC

Protest Warriors,,,
ah, the good ole days!


49 posted on 01/12/2014 4:10:42 PM PST by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: Nachum

How about a “comprehensive background checks” of our president, voters, welfare recipients, Social Security disability payments, unemployment benefits, etc, etc?????????


50 posted on 01/12/2014 5:26:04 PM PST by Dapper 26
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