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Are Americans Going Galt?
Independent Women's Forum (IWF) ^ | 12 Janaury 2014 | Charlotte Hays

Posted on 01/12/2014 9:39:30 PM PST by Lorianne

Ninety-two million Americans are not in the work force—they don’t have jobs and they aren’t looking for jobs.

These 92 million Americans aren’t just out of work—they are resigned to being out of work as a way of life.

The ballooning numbers of Americans who are resigned to long-term joblessness inspired Roger L. Simon to suggest in a bleakly humorous piece over at PJ Media that Americans are going Galt:

Tell all your “Objectivist” friends and the libertarian gang at Reason magazine to break out the champagne. Americans may have skipped the movie of Atlas Shrugged, nor have many read any of Ayn Rand’s works, but they have taken the author’s advice anyway and gone John Galt, quitting the work force in record numbers. According to Zero Hedge, the latest figures show the labor participation rate at 35 year low.

Realistically, it’s even more than 35 because that figure reflects an employment bump when larger numbers of women joined the work force in the seventies and eighties. (They’re gone now, with or without Gloria Steinem.)

Currently a record 91.8 million Americans are no longer looking for work. That’s almost one and a half times the entire population of France.

We are heading for a disaster. A shrinking workforce won’t be able to pay for the nation’s vast array of entitlements. Moreover, many of these non-working adults, men and women who in previous generations would have met their own financial needs, are now receiving assistance. This is an unsustainable economic situation.

But this situation is not merely economically unsustainable. It is spiritually unsustainable:

(Excerpt) Read more at iwf.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: adults; americans; assistance; economic; employment; entitlement; galt; situation; work; workforce

1 posted on 01/12/2014 9:39:30 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

I do know that a lot of Americans are no longer bothering to try to build anything, mainly since they’ll just be burdened with one regulation after another.


2 posted on 01/12/2014 9:52:05 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: Lorianne

The simple fact is, a lot of American manufacturing was moved to China.

This is part of the reason, there are so many Americans, now out of work.

Bring back American jobs.


3 posted on 01/12/2014 9:55:02 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Lorianne

Men Are ‘On Strike’ Throughout The U.S.: What Are The Causes? (More John Galt than Peter Pan?)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3111054/posts


4 posted on 01/12/2014 9:57:32 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: CorporateStepsister

A young mother I know (under 30) started a home business @ 2 years ago that’s been very successful. She works her butt off. She is really disgusted with all the regs she has to contend with and what it’s done to her family’s tax situation.


5 posted on 01/12/2014 9:57:36 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

When my business launches, I’m going to headquarter it in Monaco and enjoy a tax free income from all my work.


6 posted on 01/12/2014 10:00:33 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: Lorianne

Is this just another way for Obama to explain away his destruction of jobs? Make jobs unavailable and after trying to get non existant jobs, some people give up and then declare those people have exited the job market. So instead of admitting you put them out of work, indicate that they left the workforce of their own will.


7 posted on 01/12/2014 10:02:50 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: Lorianne

All I know is that amnesty will fix this.


8 posted on 01/12/2014 10:07:26 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Lorianne

Sucking on the government tit is not going Galt, that’s becoming a bum. Going Galt means being productive off the grid. Roger Simon should know the difference.


9 posted on 01/12/2014 10:08:12 PM PST by shove_it (old Old Guardsman 1962-63)
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To: shove_it

Exactly. Everyone who went Galt didn’t just stop working. They moved on to set up business in Galt’s Gulch.


10 posted on 01/12/2014 10:13:54 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Lorianne

The U-6 is probably around 15 to 20 percent now.


11 posted on 01/12/2014 10:38:10 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: CorporateStepsister; All

In Washington, DC a few years ago the govt. masterminds decided to require a Basic Business License for all business activity however small. One has to declare that they do not owe the city $100 or more in order to get one. If fighting a $100 plus traffic ticket, mistaken bill from Tax and Revenue, or any of the other myriad mistakes a govt. bureaucracy can make, you can’t get your licens.


12 posted on 01/12/2014 11:02:08 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Lorianne

If colorado can countermand federal drug regulations....

Why cant another state countermand federal business regulations?


13 posted on 01/12/2014 11:04:53 PM PST by GraceG
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To: gleeaikin

One obstacle after another.

No wonder businesses are going overseas.

I think simply giving up and walking away is the best possible way to react to all of this. Stop trying to sustain a system that is broken anyway and not good for a lot of people.

Our country is like the Old South, determined to maintain a class system that prevents people from moving up (certain elites referring to ordinary Americans as trash) and a determination to bring in cheap labor in endless supply (the Mexicans), and a perverse determination not to be practical about an education (getting useless degrees) and deliberate ignorance about reality (as evidenced by the way people choose to ignore warning signs and learn from mistakes).

I broke with that some years ago and I believe that it was the best possible thing in the world. You won’t see me fighting to uphold a toxic system.


14 posted on 01/12/2014 11:09:30 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: CorporateStepsister

Starve this beast!


15 posted on 01/12/2014 11:16:09 PM PST by bicyclerepair (TERM LIMITS TERM LIMITS TERM LIMITS)
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To: bicyclerepair

Yahoo!

I’m all for it and I look forward to the end of this toxic era we’ve been swilling around in.


16 posted on 01/12/2014 11:16:54 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: shove_it

I agree. This is a misrepresentation of John Galt.


17 posted on 01/12/2014 11:41:05 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Lorianne

I imagine that there are a lot of workers that connected into the underground economy.


18 posted on 01/13/2014 12:34:03 AM PST by Cheapskate (Play loud and carry BIG sticks!)
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To: Lorianne

I don’t think John Galt was looking for a nice government teat to suckle. That’s the goal of most of those who have withdrawn from the workforce.


19 posted on 01/13/2014 2:08:48 AM PST by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms in Dixie!)
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To: GraceG

Because the president has a fondness for drug dealers since he himself has admitted to be a drug dealer.


20 posted on 01/13/2014 2:10:10 AM PST by monocle
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To: Lorianne

Why work with endless entitlements?


21 posted on 01/13/2014 2:18:41 AM PST by maddog55
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To: GraceG

I think States need to start stepping up and say the hell with Federal laws. If enough states did it would cripple what the federal government could do and that’s what’s needed.

If South Carolina bans Obamacare that’s a great in your face to the federal government. More states need to step up and if you hate what that state is doing.. don’t go there.


22 posted on 01/13/2014 2:23:14 AM PST by maddog55
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To: Lorianne

Something missed is that “going Galt” is a choice. Obamanomics has taken that choice and pretty much forced it on the country. Throw in another 50 million new immigrants through amnesty and the real party begins.


23 posted on 01/13/2014 2:29:59 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

If we brought back the jobs, we would need to import more immigrants to fill the positions.

Those 90 million out of the work force aren’t going to flock to the jobs. A percentage of them will, many won’t.

Why?
They are no longer willing to pull the wagon. It’s easier to ride.

They would lose their benefits.

A certain percentage are tired of being flogged for succeeding.

Also
The EPA would throw endless roadblocks in front of those wishing to start enterprises that would be needed to bring back jobs. Manufacturing jobs rather than assembly work involve pollutants. We’ve exported much of our pollution.

To bring back investments to America to start jobs, corporations would pay taxes on those profits earned overseas and be left with what was left over to “bring back American jobs”. Then get taxed again once they began to earn profits again.

Keep waving that magic wand. It won’t hurt.


24 posted on 01/13/2014 2:59:48 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Kirkwood

“Exactly. Everyone who went Galt didn’t just stop working. They moved on to set up business in Galt’s Gulch.”

Ditto to “exactly”; I’ve read the book and seen the movie. Ann Rand’s Going Galton means exactly the opposite of what those who have dropped out of the workforce represent.


25 posted on 01/13/2014 3:22:59 AM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: Vince Ferrer

“All I know is that amnesty will fix this.”

The supporters of amnesty are looking for a way to replace the next generation of Americans that isn’t being born as men stop “playing the game”; they don’t need the illegals here as workers (we have plenty of those), they need them here as CONSUMERS (of housing, public schooling, and such - everything that American 10 year-olds would be using if there were any).


26 posted on 01/13/2014 4:02:15 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Lorianne

Atlas Shrugged. Why work to pay for all the deadbeats and illegals that get your money.


27 posted on 01/13/2014 4:16:54 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Unemployment Rate - U6
2000 - 2013

It has fallen some too...... I make it 13% or so. But still double the published rate

28 posted on 01/13/2014 4:35:28 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Kirkwood
They moved on to set up business in Galt’s Gulch.

And so have we. It's called China.

Nobody wants to hear it, but Asia's economies are getting freer every year, while Western economies (with France in the lead) are becoming more and more Stalinist. The world's move to Asia isn't really about cost control.

29 posted on 01/13/2014 4:42:11 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

-—— The world’s move to Asia isn’t really about cost control.-——

Actually it is about profitability. You subcontract manufacturing or close the doors. Companies that are not profitable die and jobs they tried to maintain with no sales just cease to exist.

You fail to consider that only a living company hires


30 posted on 01/13/2014 4:49:18 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Only for those “Americans” to unionize the plant and produce crap? No thanks.


31 posted on 01/13/2014 4:52:13 AM PST by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Bring back American jobs.

That's a great mantra, and something I'd like to see too, but keep wishing. The governmental rules and laws are seeing to that. Unions are still willing to see a company drown instead of using reason. The education system, if you even want to call it that anymore, has not produced the skills, or inclination, to enter a manufacturing related occupation. So we are probably a good 12-20 years of away from taking back our manufacturing leadership. That would be an aggressive estimate. Even the soft skills (administrative) roles would be challenging for many recent college grads, let alone high school grads.

I've spent a lot of time in China, and Asia in particular. I'll even admit to sending work over there. But it was a business decision and driven by the market. When lower prices are being demanded, you can respond, or you can close the doors. So the problem is much more challenging than just bringing jobs back to America.

32 posted on 01/13/2014 5:02:07 AM PST by voicereason (The RNC is like the "One-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: Lorianne

As fast as I can, I have the land, as soon as I have my ranch built and paid for I will be there.


33 posted on 01/13/2014 6:05:04 AM PST by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: Lorianne

How are the 92 million able to live? You can only mooch for so long.


34 posted on 01/13/2014 6:28:04 AM PST by rawhide
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To: bert

This is all about getting whitey. Payback time from Obongo


35 posted on 01/13/2014 7:24:21 AM PST by LumberJack53213
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To: bert
ShadowStats has it getting close to 25%:

36 posted on 01/13/2014 7:31:31 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: maddog55
I think States need to start stepping up and say the hell with Federal laws. If enough states did it would cripple what the federal government could do and that’s what’s needed.

There's a way that the whole thing can be forced; all we really need is a single governor to have some balls to force the immigration/amnesty issue: like so.

37 posted on 01/13/2014 7:34:28 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
manufacturing jobs to China...

The assumption that everyone who worked in manufacturing would get retrained and work in technology was always insane. A very large percentage are suited to hands-on activity oriented work, not sedentary days.

The other assumption that's insane is that lower-income people will find other employment when they can be replaced by invaders and other cheap foreign labor.

What's happening without these jobs being held by US citizens is planners striving for good conclusions from bad premises. The logical side of me cringes.

38 posted on 01/13/2014 7:44:36 AM PST by grania
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To: grania

It however doesn’t change that China is a closed society with more than a billion people, who now export a huge portion of America’s goods right back to us.

Making China stronger, and America weaker.

China isn’t like America. Americans cannot buy land in China. Yet Chinese can buy land in America.

Everything is biased in China’s favor. That must change.

Or America will simply collapse.

We cannot continue to send American industry to China.

Bring back American jobs.

Back to America.


39 posted on 01/13/2014 7:56:26 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: OneWingedShark

The lawsuit filed in 1997 cited Article 4 of the Constitution, which says that the United States “shall protect each of [the states] against invasion.” But U.S. District Judge Judith Keep in San Diego and the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco threw out the lawsuit on grounds that California and Arizona are not being “invaded” by a hostile, foreign power.

My guess is the same thing would happen again.


40 posted on 01/13/2014 9:17:42 AM PST by maddog55
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To: Lorianne

People who aren’t lazy work. Is that so hard to understand?


41 posted on 01/13/2014 9:19:04 AM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: maddog55
The lawsuit filed in 1997 cited Article 4 of the Constitution, which says that the United States “shall protect each of [the states] against invasion.” But U.S. District Judge Judith Keep in San Diego and the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco threw out the lawsuit on grounds that California and Arizona are not being “invaded” by a hostile, foreign power.

My guess is the same thing would happen again.

Invasion doesn't require armament, or even hostility, see definitions #2, #3, and #4:

invasion

noun
1. an act or instance of invading or entering as an enemy, especially by an army.
2. the entrance or advent of anything troublesome or harmful, as disease.
3. entrance as if to take possession or overrun: the annual invasion of the resort by tourists.
4. infringement by intrusion.
If a governor had the balls to declare a state of invasion, then I'd think he'd have the balls to issue warrants for arrest/trial of Treason to such judicial pronouncements.
42 posted on 01/13/2014 9:24:15 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

interesting

The slope of the Shadow stats is positive While the U6 slope is negative.

There is a growing discrepancy......... perhaps criminal growth.


43 posted on 01/13/2014 11:55:58 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: rawhide

“You can only mooch for so long.

If you know the system You can mooch for generations.

There are plenty of “advisers” to help you find your way around the system

It’s pathetic.

.


44 posted on 01/13/2014 12:03:13 PM PST by Mears
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To: rawhide
How are the 92 million able to live? You can only mooch for so long.

Not everyone mooches. Hubby was laid off in September. Because we've always been frugal and lived below our means, we're able to live on my salary. He thought about looking for another job, but after we weighed all the variables, it just didn't make sense for him to try to find a job just to work for the couple more years before retirement, and pay whopping taxes to boot. He's not getting unemployment. Next time you want to paint everyone who ended up out of the job market as a moocher, let's see your family take a two-thirds pay cut without warning, not take any government hand-outs, and see how you do.

45 posted on 01/13/2014 1:33:31 PM PST by Hoffer Rand (If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. *Asterisk.*)
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To: Hoffer Rand

I did not mean to offend you. Sorry.


46 posted on 01/13/2014 2:38:15 PM PST by rawhide
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