Skip to comments.What if Americans rebel against the Obamacare mandate?
Posted on 01/13/2014 12:49:46 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
The Obama administration is trying to persuade millions of uninterested, or perhaps reluctant, Americans to purchase health insurance through the Obamacare exchanges. But the heart of Obamacare is coercion. If Americans fail do what the law's Democratic authors believe is best, the federal government will punish them, through the progressively higher penalties of the individual mandate, until it hurts more not to buy coverage than it does to give up and purchase it.
But what if many of those Americans rebel? Even if they know having health insurance is better than not having it, what if they refuse to be forced to buy the kind of coverage dictated by the government -- which may not really meet their needs -- at prices they don't want to pay? What then?
"I don't think Obamacare can survive without people wanting to buy it," Robert Laszewski, the respected health care analyst whose writings on Obamacare have become essential in recent months, told me in an email exchange recently. "How the hell are you going to enforce a mandate to buy something that people don't think is valuable enough to buy? If the uninsured don't start to see value in Obamacare and buy it, is the Democratic solution to fine the heck out of them until it hurts so much they have to buy it? Great political strategy!"
Of course, that's exactly what the strategy is. Democrats designed the penalty for not having "minimum essential coverage" to start low and increase rapidly. For this year, according to a chart prepared by the Kaiser Family Foundation, the penalty is $95 per adult and $47.50 per child. But the penalty cannot rise above $285, or one percent of family income, whichever is higher. (Obamacare uses a measurement called Modified Adjusted Gross Income to determine penalties -- a measure that is usually higher than the Adjusted Gross Income many taxpayers are familiar with.)
In the second year, the penalty will rise dramatically, to $325 per adult and $162.50 per child, or two percent of family income, whichever is higher. The year after, the penalty will take another big jump, to $695 per adult and $347.50 per child, or 2.5 percent of family income. The only limit on the penalty is that it cannot be higher than the national average premium for a Bronze Plan purchased on the Obamacare exchanges. According to the Congressional Budget Office, that could be as much as $5,000 in 2016. And after that initial increase in the penalty, future penalties will rise according to the cost of living.
But Democrats in Congress feared public reaction to actually forcing Americans to write a check to the government to cover the penalty. So instead, the Internal Revenue Service, which is charged with enforcing Obamacare, will subtract the penalty from the tax refunds of those Americans who incur the penalty, provided they are due a refund. Otherwise, the IRS will not have a way to collect the money.
"In the first year, the mandate is useless," said Laszewski. "One percent isn't strong enough. The IRS can't really collect it anyway from anyone who wants to flaunt it. Then we get to the second and third year. Two percent in 2015 and 2.5 percent in 2016. Now we have real money. The IRS still can't collect it, but lots of people will still be troubled by it because they won't like getting nasty letters from the IRS."
As Laszewski sees it, the mandate could become extremely unpopular -- it's already by far the least popular part of Obamacare -- if policies are not what the public wants to buy. Who would want to be forced to buy something he or she doesn't want? That something is not insurance itself -- it is insurance that is ill-fitting and overpriced. "The problem is that the government will be hard pressed to collect a fine on something lots of people don't believe has value," Laszewski said. "This is when it will become a huge political albatross. At the core Obamacare is not sustainable, and the mandate/fine is not politically sustainable, if there are lots of middle class people who see Obamacare as a poor value."
I got in touch with Laszewski after reading an interview he did with the Washington Post's Ezra Klein in which Laszewski explained that if Obamacare had been designed by businesspeople, it might have had more features to appeal to customers. But it was designed by lawmakers and lobbyists and is something quite different. "The problem with Obamacare is its product driven and not market driven," Laszewski told Klein. "They didnt ask the customer what they wanted. And I think thats the fundamental problem with Obamacare. It meets the needs of very poor people because youre giving them health insurance for free. But it doesnt really meet the needs of healthy people and middle-class people."
Of course, the individual mandate forces people to buy coverage whether it meets their needs or not. And Laszewski sees a real possibility that it won't work. If enough dissatisfied Americans simply don't buy the product, he said, that would create political momentum "to get rid of the mandate/fine -- which is effectively the same thing as getting rid of Obamacare." And if that happens, the American health system will be in entirely uncharted territory.
The very best thing to do is to resist it no matter what they threaten to do, at the very least its patriotism.
Who knows maybe Obama will become so despondent he resigns from office....
There’s a camp for that!
The insurance companies will be sucking tailpipe if the mandates collapse.
Now if only we could make it hurt the executives who eagerly embraced Zero-care instead of the workers who didn’t have anything to do with it.
Why not file lawsuits under the fact that the Obamacare mandates are violating the civil rights of the citizenry. Citizens can get millions, the lawyers fighting this can get millions, and we can kind of eliminate this through a ‘death of a thousand cuts’ method rather than trying for outright elimination. Make it cost a lot to push this through. Sue the legislatures and sue the politicians.
Since I am immune to Obozocare I have no idea about the alternatives. There are many benefits to being an American, living offshore.
>> Now if only we could make it hurt the executives who eagerly embraced Zero-care
The Country has been victimized by an indirect but true form of fascism.
While I’d be happy to see the offenders hanging, writhing, better to first puncture that asphyxiating our liberties; i.e., vote TEA!
I don’t think that goes anywhere. A legal/litigation challenge to 0’care would have to get into a circuit court and then be appealed to the USSC, per my larval understanding of the hierarchy of the court system.
However...there is a doctrine of “impossibility” in legal procedure. This may be the only (legal-based) means of overturning 0’care; but, by the time it is proven impossible, it may well have overturned itself.
I look forward to the moment when the administration floats the idea of bailouts for the insurance companies. You know, the guys who were the evil bastards all along? But who actually wrote the bill. With the bailout provision for them. I so look forward to that moment. Boy oh boy, if that doesn’t get the libs going, there is absolutely no hope for them (or for us)
From what I read they get money form the Government (US) if they loose $$$$.
What IF??? People have been rebelling against it since before it became law...or at least I have.
Yes, Rand Paul is launching such an effort.
The question is whether the courts will even hear the case.
In the US, one needs to show “standing” (yes, this is in the Constitution), otherwise the courts will reject the case.
Although it may seem obvious to us that there is a direct harm to our personal well-being and liberty, a judge could say that the citizen has a legislative remedy.
If Paul is smart, he will continue to build public awareness of his legal effort. It may force the hand of a federal judge (or even SCOTUS) to hear the case. In the end, judges are political figures too, and are sensitive to the insinuation that their rule is not legitimate.
Yes, but if the mandates collapse, this amount will be enormous. The subsidies will be repealed too, pinching the insurance companies. The preexisting condition exclusion will then need to be repealed.
The GOP needs to have an alternative. Undoing Obamacare now would be like unscrambling an egg.
The target group will neither pay for insurance nor pay a fine.
They will just show up and demand their “rights”.
I think people are already rebelling but you’ll never get the actual numbers out of the assholes running Obamacare. This administration is nothing but one huge lie.
I’d like to see the entire GOP stand up and walk out on the state of the Union address or at least scream out “YOU DID LIE” every time POSPOTUS opens his mouth.
They do not have to let him come give the address. That's a courtesy. I'd like to see that - oh the screams of racism lol
The insurance companies will be sucking tailpipe if the mandates collapse.
The grave concern is that this fiasco will be allowed to run until it completely bankrupts and destroys the private insurance industry, leaving only substandard medicare (single payer).
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