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Single Payer: We´ve Been There, Done That
American Spectator ^ | 1/13/2014 | David Catron

Posted on 01/13/2014 6:13:17 AM PST by rootin tootin

Well, our progressive friends are once again calling for single payer health care. The ironic pretext this time is that Obamacare has collapsed into chaos … But the advocates of the “Affordable Care Act,” as these people stubbornly refer to it, refuse to accept that the crackup was caused by the inevitable incompetence of government bureaucrats. They believe the real problem was avaricious insurance executives. Thus, people like Michael Moore, Paul Krugman and even Colin Powell urge us to cast out the money changers and wholly surrender our health care to the tender mercies of the federal government.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: healthcare; obamacare; singlepayer

1 posted on 01/13/2014 6:13:18 AM PST by rootin tootin
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To: rootin tootin

Linky no worky.


2 posted on 01/13/2014 6:29:38 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: rootin tootin

Seniors love medicare because :

1) Much of the funding comes from taxing other Americans who don’t even get it, they themselves may not have health insurance
2) The rest of the funding comes from the US borrowing $$$ to pay those medicare bills.

Without those it would look like medicaid.


3 posted on 01/13/2014 6:34:08 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: rootin tootin
Link
4 posted on 01/13/2014 6:43:34 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: sickoflibs

I subscribe to the school of thought that, now that Obamacare Is The Law Of The Land, if it is possible to make it collapse under its own weight, then seniors — more specifically, “sick” seniors — should have no reluctance whatsoever to sign up and run up the bill.

Of course, it might simply be another Social Security, or as you wrote, Medicare, where its implicit bankruptcy is obvious, yet the few weak efforts to change it in the slightest way are immediately met with human props on a stage in back of Obama, sob stories of “rights” being taken away, etc.


5 posted on 01/13/2014 6:48:35 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy
RE :’I subscribe to the school of thought that, now that Obamacare Is The Law Of The Land, if it is possible to make it collapse under its own weight, then seniors — more specifically, “sick” seniors — should have no reluctance whatsoever to sign up and run up the bill”

Seniors get medicare already, although it doesn't pay for long term nursing home costs. They already have no problem 'running up the bill', heck they are told that they earned it.

What were you trying to get at?

6 posted on 01/13/2014 6:57:20 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: rootin tootin

I get medical care from the VA.....you do not want single payer!!!!


7 posted on 01/13/2014 6:57:54 AM PST by ontap
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To: sickoflibs

I meant anybody in their 40’s and up.


8 posted on 01/13/2014 7:02:45 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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Seniors have no choice but to enroll in Medicare it’s mandatory as far as their running up the bill they don’t enjoy a visit to a doctors office any more than you do but they most certainly will have more medical problems. Your cavalier attitude toward senior makes one wonder....have you spoken to mommy and daddy about their corrupting the system...have you encouraged them to just go away and die.....hummmm!!!


9 posted on 01/13/2014 7:05:29 AM PST by ontap
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To: rootin tootin

The article says that Sweden recently DITCHED Single Payer.

Very interesting. I did not know that.


10 posted on 01/13/2014 8:12:11 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: sickoflibs

Ins companies vs gov. Here is the difference. If Ins Co A screw the customer, everyone else hears about it and get another policy. Injured party has a chance to sue if the terms were changed midstream. If the gov runs health, if they change terms midstream you cannot sue. Look at Soc Sec when retirement ages were changed. SCOTUS ruled citzens cannot sue breach of contract because Soc Sec is a “legislated entitlement” and Congress can change terms and benefits anytime. If an ins co does foolish things and face bankruptcy within ten years, customer finds out he can replace policy with another ins coy. If gov run healthcare is facing bankruptcy, too bad, you keep paying for it or go to jail.


11 posted on 01/13/2014 8:20:09 AM PST by Fee
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To: Fee

True,
but those who believe in and argue for the good of big, powerful, compassionate and good government will argue that the federal government will always be superior to any private industry in providing services because they don’t have to worry about how much it costs, the government has unlimited $$$ to spend on it.

Exhibit A “Medicare.


12 posted on 01/13/2014 8:34:06 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: ontap

I am including people in their 40’s and 50’s as “seniors”. I am in that category. I’d say I have at least three matters of medical necessity (but not of medical emergency) requiring a hospital stay I could attend to this year


13 posted on 01/13/2014 10:45:42 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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