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Supreme Court blocks Arizona’s 20-week abortion ban
Fox News ^ | January 13, 2014 | (With AP)

Posted on 01/13/2014 7:43:10 AM PST by Olog-hai

The Supreme Court on Monday blocked Arizona from enforcing a ban on most abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy, in the latest blow for states that have tried to enact strict abortion laws.

The high court declined to hear an appeal from Arizona, leaving in place a prior ruling from the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that determined the law was unconstitutional. The Supreme Court decision effectively strikes down the law. …

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 20weeks; abortion; babykillers; scotus

1 posted on 01/13/2014 7:43:10 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

So what if AZ simply ignores SCOTUS?


2 posted on 01/13/2014 7:44:11 AM PST by oblomov
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To: oblomov
In the words of "Old Hickory,": "Justice Roberts has rendered his decision. Now let him enforce it."
3 posted on 01/13/2014 7:46:44 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: oblomov

They won’t, but it might be interesting to look into the details of the law.

In Texas, the law that has stirred up so much emotion contains a loophole in its wording saying that if someone feels burdened by the law it doesn’t apply to them.

A poster told me that 20-week TX law would withstand court muster.

No doubt it would because the abortion law there was a symbolic act from business as usual Republican politicians reacted to by business as usual Democrat politicians like Wendy Davis with a lot of drama..


4 posted on 01/13/2014 7:49:15 AM PST by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: Nextrush
No doubt it would because the abortion law there was a symbolic act from business as usual Republican politicians reacted to by business as usual Democrat politicians like Wendy Davis with a lot of drama..

TX seems to me to be the Republican-party of the states: all talk and posing, no real, effective action.
Sad to see them embrace so fully The Tao of Republican Orthodoxy.

5 posted on 01/13/2014 7:52:33 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

I have said that 95 percent of the Republicans we elect either fake conservatism or repudiate it like Peter King and John McCain.


6 posted on 01/13/2014 7:54:28 AM PST by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: Olog-hai

Complicit murderers.


7 posted on 01/13/2014 7:57:04 AM PST by onedoug
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To: oblomov
So what if AZ simply ignores SCOTUS?

Exactly. If states can have their local versions of the Second Amendment, why not gradations of "rights" like abortion that aren't really rights?

8 posted on 01/13/2014 8:05:33 AM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: Nextrush

I equate many to Trojan Horses sent to undermine our republic.


9 posted on 01/13/2014 8:08:04 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Olog-hai

And the liberals worry about convicted murderers who complain about feeling burned.


10 posted on 01/13/2014 8:08:40 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: oblomov

As well they should. As well most should.

Gingrich was right. An outright elimination of the 9th circuit is in order.


11 posted on 01/13/2014 8:18:32 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: oblomov

Yes, exactly the way Obama and Holder ignore SCOTUS. Precedent and all that.


12 posted on 01/13/2014 8:20:41 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: Olog-hai

There’s a special place in Hell reserved for those ba$tards.


13 posted on 01/13/2014 8:21:07 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: Nextrush

Texas restrictions on abortions and funding, in both the last two legislatures, directly led to the closing of the abortion mill here in Bryan, TX.

If that’s what counts as going through the motions, I’ll take it.


14 posted on 01/13/2014 8:23:07 AM PST by ziravan (Choose Sides.)
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To: ziravan

Texas law properly regulates the medical side of abortion. There is no imagined “right to privacy” when it comes to commerce.


15 posted on 01/13/2014 8:27:16 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Olog-hai

There is no conscience anymore in our court system. The Libs have a stranglehold for the foreseeable future. The total irony is that Big Media and the Libs have convinced the sheeple they they are the caring, compassionate ones. Ridiculous!


16 posted on 01/13/2014 8:34:20 AM PST by originalbuckeye ("A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue;)
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To: PowderMonkey

Did that grining bastard and protege of Bush II vote against the ban here?


17 posted on 01/13/2014 8:49:45 AM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: oblomov
The problem is that the abortionists want AZ to ignore SCOTUS. AZ wants to prosecute and enforce a law and can't do that now.

It's another victory for abortionists.

18 posted on 01/13/2014 8:52:41 AM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Olog-hai

Did life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness go out with Roe vs. Wade?

It seems like it.


19 posted on 01/13/2014 8:53:12 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Olog-hai

The Ninth Circuit Court again.....continue the appeal process.

First thing the GOP should do if they win in 2016 and have the Senate is to appoint additional judges to the bench to offset these idiots.


20 posted on 01/13/2014 9:19:32 AM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: OneWingedShark

It appears your state of New Mexico isn’t leading the pack either!!

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/20/us-usa-abortion-albuquerque-idUSBRE9AI0KA20131120


21 posted on 01/13/2014 9:36:44 AM PST by ontap
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To: ontap
It appears your state of New Mexico isn’t leading the pack either!!

Yeah, that was disappointing news.
There's a lot of stuff screwed-up in this state, I'll admit it.

22 posted on 01/13/2014 9:40:16 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: oblomov

EXACTLY!! Eff SCOTUS!


23 posted on 01/13/2014 10:27:18 AM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: ziravan

Clearly clinic rules and regulations do have an effect.

Here in PA where Kermit Gosnell did his dirty work, new regs were passed, but its sad that when three different people were governor, 2 R’s and 1 D, the Gosnell clinic was not inspected by the state health department.

The grand jury that indicted Gosnell and others said “politics” was involved in the case. The prosecutor never followed up on that.

But our GOP controlled legislature and Republican governor chose not to pass or promote any kind of 20-week ban legislation at all.

BUT THE TWENTY WEEK BAN ON ABORTIONS IN TEXAS THAT REPUBLICANS PASSED WAS A SYMBOLIC POLITICAL ACT WITH NO TEETH TO IT AND BOTH PARTIES AND THEIR AFFILIATED ORGS LIKE PLANNED PARENTHOOD AND NATIONAL RIGHT TO LIFE ARE PUTTING ON A SHOW IN OPPOSING IT AND SUPPORTING IT TO RAISE MONEY FROM UNSUSPECTING GRASSROOTS SUPPORTERS WHO DON’T REALIZE THEY ARE BEING HUSTLED BY THE POLITICAL MACHINES.


24 posted on 01/13/2014 10:33:05 AM PST by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: Olog-hai; Lurking Libertarian; Perdogg; JDW11235; Clairity; TheOldLady; Spacetrucker; ...

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the SCOTUS ping list.

25 posted on 01/13/2014 12:18:59 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: oblomov
So what if AZ simply ignores SCOTUS?

Back in the 1950s, Arkansas ignored a SCOTUS order to integrate Central High School in Little Rock. President Eisenhower federalized the Arkansas National Guard and ordered them to enforce to SCOTUS order.

And no, I am not comparing abortion to desegregation. I am just pointing out that the federal courts can call on the federal Executive Branch to enforce their orders and, if the President is on board, the Feds outgun the states. (If the President is not on board, things can be very different, as when President Jackson ignored SCOTUS's order against removing the Cherokee Indians from their land.)

26 posted on 01/13/2014 1:10:25 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: ZULU
Did that grining bastard and protege of Bush II vote against the ban here?

No one on SCOTUS voted for or against the Arizona law. SCOTUS simply refused to hear the case (as they do with 98% of the cases that are brought up). There were no opinions written and no recorded dissents. The result is that the 9th Circuit decision stands, but it is not binding precedent outside of the 9th Circuit; SCOTUS's refusal to hear a case does not establish any precedent.

27 posted on 01/13/2014 1:15:18 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

The 9th court is a God forsaken nightmare! It makes NO difference what
the voters vote for THEY overturn EVERYTHING! How old are these justices? Something HAS to be done about this DAMNED court!!!


28 posted on 01/13/2014 1:17:22 PM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

SCOTUS ping. (NB: This was a denial of certiorari, not an actual SCOTUS decision.)


29 posted on 01/13/2014 1:17:44 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Olog-hai
a symbolic act from business as usual Republican politicians reacted to by business as usual Democrat politicians like Wendy Davis with a lot of drama.

You got it.

Just like I've been saying right along.

NRTL's main focus, which is "twenty week" "and then you can kill the baby" bills, are immoral, unconstitutional, and ultimately USELESS at stopping abortion on demand.

Wake up, people!

The "strategy" of the "pro-life" industry is now thoroughly discredited.

30 posted on 01/13/2014 3:21:36 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Our rights come from God, not from men. That's why they're unalienable.)
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To: Tau Food

AZ should pass a new but very similar law and enforce it ,,, if the 9th circus becomes involved just use delaying tactics ...


31 posted on 01/13/2014 9:10:28 PM PST by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: oblomov; Olog-hai
So what if AZ simply ignores SCOTUS?

Right. State nullification of unconstitutional federal government interference with states' freedom. Abortion is by no means allowed or delegated by the Constitution to the federal government no matter how convoluted the contortionists on the Left twist the Constitution. Abortion is plainly and clearly not a federal issue. With clear and valid legal reasoning, AZ should just ignore SCOTUS on this one.

32 posted on 01/14/2014 7:55:27 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: EDINVA
Yes, exactly the way Obama and Holder ignore SCOTUS.

No, hardly the way this rogue, out-of control POTUS does it. AZ has a constitutional argument. Obama illegally ignores the Constitution.

33 posted on 01/14/2014 7:58:35 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Yeah but “SCOTUS Denies Cert for 9999th Time This Session” isn’t as attention-grabbing, now is it? ;p


34 posted on 01/14/2014 9:53:16 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Lurking Libertarian; Perdogg; JDW11235; Clairity; TheOldLady; Spacetrucker; Art in Idaho; GregNH; ..

Please note: No one on SCOTUS voted for or against the Arizona law. SCOTUS simply refused to hear the case (as they do with 98% of the cases that are brought up). There were no opinions written and no recorded dissents. The result is that the 9th Circuit decision stands, but it is not binding precedent outside of the 9th Circuit; SCOTUS’s refusal to hear a case does not establish any precedent.


35 posted on 01/14/2014 10:01:08 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Thanks for clarifying, BuckeyeTexan.

Then AZ should nullify the 9th circuit decision for the same reasons given on Post #32.

36 posted on 01/14/2014 11:43:01 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

anybody still think SCOTUS is “conservative”?


37 posted on 01/14/2014 11:43:34 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Olog-hai

They need to pass a tax on abortion doctors, clinics, nurses and abortions themselves. Then it would be Constitutional.

You can tax Americans as much as you want you just cannot take away their welfare, same sex marriage rights or the right to kill your baby.


38 posted on 01/14/2014 7:47:40 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SamuraiScot

Federalism is a joke played on conservatives by “conservative” politicians and “conservative” judges.

It’s a club. I’ve been reading what the SCOTUS did during the government caused Great Depression. Once FDR got the political heat going they just fell in line with whatever the flavor of the day was in DC.

Why stand up for the Constitution when it pays so well to just go along? How many billions does the Constitution pay out? How many billions does ignoring the Constitution pay out?

That’s where we’re at. The funny thing is that one of the founding “progressives”, Charles Beard, said he hated the Constitution and called it illegitimate because the Founders wrote it to their own economic benefit and not for the benefit of the common man.

Now, the common man is a slave to a government that ignores the Constitution and is steeped in the crony capitalism practiced by the modern plutocracy. I look forward to kicking Beard in whatever rear his spirit currently possesses. I hope I have to wait a long time until that day, though.


39 posted on 01/14/2014 7:55:31 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Nextrush

Do you have a link to that source or information?


40 posted on 01/14/2014 7:56:40 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Not enough. For the past century plus, the elites of our America, and every country has and needs its elites, have been brainwashed, bribed or beaten by the Left. They’re natural joiners, love the insulated noncompetitive government environment where they can push their schemes on an ignorant public. The only hope is that technology will make most government unneeded. I don’t see it happening, though. Somehow they float back up, no matter how many times we flush.


41 posted on 01/14/2014 8:00:25 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

The funny thing is that one of the founding “progressives”, Charles Beard, said he hated the Constitution and called it illegitimate because the Founders wrote it to their own economic benefit and not for the benefit of the common man …
One of the biggest liars of our history.

The “progressives” needed the 16th and 17th Amendments to do away with the Founders’ version of federalism and replace it with their imperialism.
42 posted on 01/14/2014 8:02:34 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Yep, and a much freer generation of Americans let it happen. Why?


43 posted on 01/14/2014 9:50:07 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
Maybe they weren’t as free as we thought. After all, it wasn’t too far down the road that communist organizations like the ACLU started showing up. There were lots of statist experiments, one of the biggest being nationalization of the railroads (between 1917 and 1920; yes, before Amtrak and Conrail, there was the USRA); people like Henry Ford were big admirers of people like Adolf, too.
44 posted on 01/14/2014 10:09:19 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: 1010RD

I have a post from a Freeper Eternal Vigilance #31 in this thread.

I confirmed the authenticity of the post by going to the Texas House website and looking for the bill, which I believe was numbered 2 in the session last year that passed it on the way to the Senate.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3038244/posts


45 posted on 01/15/2014 12:09:14 AM PST by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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