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Welfare Recipients Take EBT to Disney World and Vegas
FrontPage Mag ^ | 01/13/2014 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 01/13/2014 8:22:31 AM PST by SeekAndFind

You just got on welfare, what do you want to do now? Go to Disney World. It’s cold out in Maine, but it’s really warm in Florida, just like back home in Somalia. Leave the polar vortex behind and catch some rays, withdraw some cash and enjoy the good life.

Working people are paying for it.

According to Department of Health and Human Service records, cash welfare users from Maine have spent $2.8 million outside of the state over the last three years – and not just in neighboring New Hampshire.

According to HHS records, the top recipients of Maine’s welfare cash are: New Hampshire: $1.4 million; Massachusetts: $360,000; Florida: $206,000; and New York: $100,000.

New York’s tourism board really needs to do more outreach to Maine welfare recipients. We’ve got to pay for all the people Bill de Blasio is going to put on welfare. Maybe he can innovate welfare tourism.

On Aug. 1, 2011, one or more EBT cards were used within a three-minute time frame to access nearly $500 in welfare cash at an ATM in Lake Buena Vista, Florida. That particular ATM happens to be located almost on top of the campus of Disney World Resorts.

On March 1, 2011, at 3:20AM, a Maine EBT cardholder accessed an ATM in Cape Canaveral, Florida, twice, withdrawing $400. The address of the ATM corresponds with Ron Jon Cape Caribe Resort.

Additional Sunshine State transactions occur at the Kennedy Space Center in Orlando, the Family Fun Center of Lakeland, and at North Miami Beach, Miami Beach, Vero Beach, Ormond Beach and Daytona Beach – all hotspots for Mainers on vacation.

The list goes on to include Las Vegas, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands and Four Seasons Resort Aviara in California.

The Four Seasons Resort Aviara is a five star hotel. I couldn’t afford it, but I’m not a welfare recipient in Maine.

But don’t worry Governor Moonbeam, California is still number one.

Californians have, of course, been the undisputed 50-state champions of transitional-living-fund spending across state lines. At a stratospheric $69 million from 2007 to 2010: well, can’t touch that, transitional-living-fund-wise. The top out-of-state venue for poverty-stricken, transitional-living-fund-wielding Californians? Las Vegas. $11.8 million spent by starving California children, much of it at casinos and co-located ATMs.

Remind me, wasn’t Obama lecturing CEOs about spending money in Vegas? I guess that doesn’t apply to his voting base.

 



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KEYWORDS: ebt; foodstamps
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1 posted on 01/13/2014 8:22:31 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

So much for spending for compassion.

Is this equal access to all things not needed too?


2 posted on 01/13/2014 8:28:29 AM PST by bestintxas (Obamacare = Obamascrewed)
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To: bestintxas

I’m glad someone gets to go on vacation. I don’t think my family will be doing anything fantastic this year.


3 posted on 01/13/2014 8:30:14 AM PST by MNGal
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To: SeekAndFind

HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?????????????????

THOSE CARDS SHOULD BE PROGRAMMED NOT TO WORK FOR ANYTHIG BUT FOOD

DISNEY SHOULD BE FINED FOR ACCEPTING IT


4 posted on 01/13/2014 8:31:24 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Stop looking down on them just because they don’t work!

The work challenged deserve a ‘living wage’, just everyone else, (and you’re a racist and greedy if you don’t agree).

After all, they’re people too! And everyone should be able to contribute what they prefer to contribute, with an ‘equal’ claim to produced value! Some people contribute produce or manufactured goods. Other people contribute illegitimate babies and drug use. Everyone just does what they’re good at!


5 posted on 01/13/2014 8:32:36 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Mr. K

BINGO!!!!!


6 posted on 01/13/2014 8:32:43 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: SeekAndFind
this just in from the field:

barry obama wont be issued an ebt card after being forced from office....spending his golden years at this rather spartan retreat near Leavenworth Kansas


7 posted on 01/13/2014 8:33:27 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Help fight The Neo Stalinists! Donate to your Free Republic)
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To: SeekAndFind
Don't you know it is their Gubmint Given Rights to have a good time (pursuit of happiness and such)?
8 posted on 01/13/2014 8:34:12 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: MNGal

Meanwhile, there are real needs being taken care of like air conditioning, multiple flat screens and Xbox

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3107610/posts


9 posted on 01/13/2014 8:35:53 AM PST by bestintxas (Obamacare = Obamascrewed)
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To: SeekAndFind

FReepers need to pitch in and buy me an all expenses paid vacation.

I’m not expensive I’ll even stay in the tent. 4 weeks in Michigan’s upper peninsula will be fine. The second week of July to the second week of August should do it.

Thanks.


10 posted on 01/13/2014 8:39:52 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: bestintxas

Yes, apparently we’re supposed to be liberal, and say that people on public assistance deserve nice vacations to Disney World and such places.

Millions of moderate income workers can’t afford to take these vacations, but, apparently we’re supposed to allow such expenses for those on the dole. Go figure.


11 posted on 01/13/2014 8:40:42 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: bestintxas
Even if you just hand out foodstuffs, they are subject to barter or sale.

Giving stuff to peeps doesn't make them live "right".

Doing so would just be judgmental and we can't have THAT!

12 posted on 01/13/2014 8:41:31 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

That’s probably the main reason that the left insisted on taking charity out of the hands of the churches.

Too much “morality transfer” was going on.


13 posted on 01/13/2014 8:42:28 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind

Free food, free medical care, free phones, and now free vacations. Only in Amerika.


14 posted on 01/13/2014 8:42:42 AM PST by Starboard
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To: SeekAndFind

The cards need to be programmed only to cover about 25 necessary staple items. Potatoes, rice, beans, veggies.


15 posted on 01/13/2014 8:43:11 AM PST by lurk
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To: SeekAndFind

This is all part of their plan to stimulate the economy by putting YOUR $$ in their pockets because they spend it., like this.

If they left your money with you you might just save it.

Creates jobs in Florida and Las Vegas


16 posted on 01/13/2014 8:43:13 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Starboard

Yep, there’s no “worthy” poor vs. “unworthy” poor, only gov’t supported takers.


17 posted on 01/13/2014 8:45:39 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: bestintxas
We just bought our first flat screen, a 32" of a reputable brand, because the price dropped below $230 for the first time in December.

Meanwhile, my daughter, a social worker who visits Section 8 housing constantly as part of her job, noted that 100% of her clients had multiple flat screens and, if not an X-Box, the latest Play Station or Nintendo equivalent. Not 90% or even 99%. But a full 100%.

Of course, that was maybe because her parents choose to spend our money on foolish things as utilities, mortgage payments, groceries and property taxes.

18 posted on 01/13/2014 8:46:31 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Paladin2

We used to be the Land of the Free. Now we’re just the land of the freebie.


19 posted on 01/13/2014 8:46:52 AM PST by Starboard
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To: SeekAndFind

Expensive vacas! They must save up for a few months and then go. And why not? It’s guaranteed that they’ll have more EBT credit upon their return!

I’ve had to skip vacations because of the fear of not being able to keep up with my clients properly. I’m self employed. These people have nothing to fear.


20 posted on 01/13/2014 8:47:37 AM PST by albie (ve`)
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To: bestintxas

I listened to NPR for some reason today. Self-abuse, I guess.

Anyway, the “economist” they had was opining that “poverty” does not mean not having enough money for food, shelter, clothes, but not having enough money to meet social expectations of vacations, cell phones, etc.

In short, he opined welfare leeches should go to Disney.

I almost wrecked my car.


21 posted on 01/13/2014 8:49:19 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: bestintxas

“Meanwhile, there are real needs being taken care of like air conditioning, multiple flat screens and Xbox...”

How are hardworking taxpayers supposed to deal with the reality of what the welfare SYSTEM has become and still remain sane?


22 posted on 01/13/2014 8:51:08 AM PST by MNGal
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To: Vigilanteman

100% of her clients had multiple flat screens

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It would be interesting to know what the average screen size is in those homes. I would bet that most TV’s are a lot bigger than 32”. And I would surmise that many Section 8 homes probably have Blue Ray players as well.

Many years ago, back in the days of telephone landlines, a friend who worked for the local telephone company used to say that all the “poor” folks had multiple phones in their home, usually of the Princess variety. Nothing has changed except that now they have multiple TV’s and cell phones.


23 posted on 01/13/2014 8:54:40 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Dilbert San Diego

At one point, only people who had skin in the game were thought by our founders to be deserving to vote. An interpretation of this was at the time the ownership of property.

Is someone did not own property, they had no right to be able to vote to increase property taxes, for instance.

Today’s interpretation should be whether someone receives any welfare or other federal assistance.

No one should be allowed to vote themselves money.

It is the reason the colonies revolted: Britain was terrorizing the productive colonies with onerous taxes when they had little or no skin in the game.

We are evolving into a nation of haves and have nots, with the have nots by-and-large comprised of welfare recipients dependent upon taxpayer largesse.

The solution is really pretty simple: revert all welfare back to the states.

Those states which choose to continue the existing spiralling-out-of-control welfare will see a flock of new citizens arriving in their state eager for the goodies, and an exit to other states of those who are productive. With this in the hands of the feds, there is little alternatives available for the common man other than the difficult choice to leave the country.

We are not so much a nation of states than a collection of individual states which choose to defend themselves align together on a federal level under the auspices of a Constitution which spells out ONLY those activities for the federal govt to address, not vice versa. States have been giving up their rights to the federal govt for years.

That is why states rights, fought hard by the Confederacy, was so important for the national well-being.

We have been going downward ever since.


24 posted on 01/13/2014 8:55:48 AM PST by bestintxas (Obamacare = Obamascrewed)
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To: SeekAndFind

Here in New York the foreign invaders use the EBT cards to send food back to their families in foreign countries. Isn’t that great? Wouldn’t you love it if every month someone from say France would do all your grocery shopping for you? Free of charge! All you have to do is sit back and wait for it to be delivered!


25 posted on 01/13/2014 8:55:52 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Mr. K

cash welfare users from Maine have spent $2.8 million outside of the state over the last three years

EBT cards are not just food. They have 2 separate sections on them. One can be for cash that is TANF. Dang get educated about welfare people!


26 posted on 01/13/2014 9:00:29 AM PST by sheana
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey people, enjoy your vacations. Would you send a postcard, tho? It’d really be considerate, seeing that I’m paying for your good time. Send pictures too, cuz I can’t afford to go on vacation and I’d really like to add those pictures to my albums of places I’d like to see.

Did you eat good food along the way? no stopping at McDonalds, you hear! Eat healthy so I won’t have to pay your hospital bills.

I hope you appreciate what a wonderful country you’re in. A country that is slowly draining everything it can from the people who worked honestly all their lives and worked hard so they wouldn’t become a burden. A country that is so hospitable, that it willingly gives money, food, health insurance and shelter to the people who just got here and haven’t contributed anything to the country.


27 posted on 01/13/2014 9:02:49 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: bestintxas

I moved from Seattle to a small town in central KY. I noticed a very large “poor” apartment complex that is on our very own MLKJR road. Every one of them has heat pump air conditioning.

Now, don’t get me wrong, it seems like a requirement here some times of the year, but if no AC was good enough for the rich a hundred years ago, it’s good enough for those who live off handouts.

Maybe it would motivate them to earn their own living.


28 posted on 01/13/2014 9:03:37 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: I want the USA back

I’m still waiting for the flood of Father’s Day cards from all the bastards that I’m supporting.


29 posted on 01/13/2014 9:04:06 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Mr. K
THOSE CARDS SHOULD BE PROGRAMMED NOT TO WORK FOR ANYTHIG BUT FOOD

I agree. I see the "EBT Accepted" signs at gas stations and liquor stores. Be interesting to see what happened if they were changed to only work in grocery stores in the same zipcode as the recipient. The whining would tell us all we need to know about poverty in the US.

30 posted on 01/13/2014 9:05:15 AM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: sheana

Well... exSKKKOOOOOOOZZ us for being so ignorant about how the handouts work...
We’re on the PAYING end, ya know, and don’t know that much about the gettin’ side of the equation.

(tone meant to be a wry grin and a wink)


31 posted on 01/13/2014 9:06:33 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: IamConservative

It is possible that there are no grocery stores in the same zipcode, but you have the start of a good idea.


32 posted on 01/13/2014 9:07:23 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind
See? SanFranNan was right! EBT benies really do stimulate the economy! Thanks, 0'Marxist!

Wait...what's that? You didn't get to take a vacay this year? Your taxes (er, healthcare) and other cost of living expenses went up so much you couldn't afford one? tsk, tsk.

33 posted on 01/13/2014 9:08:08 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Mr. K

They should only work at government sanctioned food banks that sell generic food- flour, salt, sugar, eggs, milk, fresh fruits, vegetables, etc.,...

If they are not working, they have time to make bread and other foods from scratch.

No cookies, candy, sugar cereals, soda, lobster. If they want ‘luxury’ items, GET A JOB.


34 posted on 01/13/2014 9:08:50 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: SeekAndFind

Hackers have been going after the wrong cards.


35 posted on 01/13/2014 9:13:25 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Is that sarcasm? /s


36 posted on 01/13/2014 9:25:48 AM PST by Hyman Roth
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To: cuban leaf

You make a good point.

I don’t want to see the poor live in misery, but, it also should not be pleasant. Living conditions should be less than ideal, so that they will be motivated to do something productive in their lives.

The message sent should be that, if you want nicer things in life, better living conditions, better cars, etc., then the way people earn such things in life is through working.

There should also be mandatory work or attending classes of some kind, in order to receive benefits. People should not be able to sit on their butts all day. Something should be required of them in order to receive public assistance.

Assistance should be geared towards making these people self supporting and independent of public assistance after a period of time. It should not be an open ended situation, in which nothing is expected of the recipients.


37 posted on 01/13/2014 9:29:09 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

In Massachusetts,the recipients “lose” there ebt cards.
They sell them for less than face value and use the cash.


38 posted on 01/13/2014 9:34:50 AM PST by markoman (The man with the rubber glove was....surprisingly gentle.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

There should also be mandatory work or attending classes of some kind, in order to receive benefits. People should not be able to sit on their butts all day. Something should be required of them in order to receive public assistance.


I’ve been arguing that exact point to anyone who would listen for the last 30 years! Frankly, the argument has been made that if Goldwater had won, we might actually have a better grip on poverty and the associated crime. And it would be because more of them actually learned to EARN what they get. It kills a person’s soul to be living on handouts. And our government makes it possible to literally live out your entire life without lifting a finger, other than to spend your EBT check. And such people are ripe to enter a life of crime, if only because of their ridiculously low self esteem coupled with extreme bitterness toward a society that, in their own mind, they could never hope to participate in.

And this attitude is one they learned, being on the dole, often for their entire life. They don’t think they can participate, due to their own lack of ability (regardless of who they blame it on publicly). And the welfare state, quite literally, did it to them.


39 posted on 01/13/2014 9:47:12 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: markoman

In Massachusetts,the recipients “lose” there ebt cards.
If I lose a hundred dollar bill, can I stop by some government office to get a new one?

The lack of accountability in such a system is criminal. And I am not using that term lightly.


40 posted on 01/13/2014 9:49:02 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: SeekAndFind
Well if they work at BK and Mickey D's then why not Vegas or Disney World.

So now we see one possible reason that corporate America is pushing amnesty even though unemployment (actual U-6) is stuck in the double digits. Not only do they get cheap labor, but the "displaced" EBT recipients are still able to purchase their products. It's a win/win for everyone but the sucker taxpayer.

41 posted on 01/13/2014 9:49:10 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

If its from France, it would be some pretty cool stuff too.


42 posted on 01/13/2014 10:33:48 AM PST by crazycatlady
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To: cuban leaf

There is, but as I see it, there are so many loopholes, sorry, exemptions that it doesn’t mean much. If you’re under a certain age, over a certain age, officially disabled, going to school, looking for work, already working at a paid job( I don’t know if a part time job counts) and probably some others, you’re exempt. I think that this was part of welfare reform in the nineties. I’m also guessing that the enforcement and documentation is probably pretty slipshod in a lot of places. Low priority, and it probably is. Enforcing this might be more trouble than its worth, just like drug testing for recipients, which sound really good on paper. The few places that have tried drug testing claim that they net so few violators that it doesn’t pay. So it’s basically a feel good thing that isn’t that practical. I very much favor drug testing for housing assistance though.
People who are abusing housing assistance get really entrenched with their activities and can create a big nuisance. A few years ago on the E. side of King Co., somebody was actually running a brothel out of public housing! The people definitely weren’t Somalian, but they were violating some immigration laws and using some underage girls.


43 posted on 01/13/2014 10:49:44 AM PST by crazycatlady
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To: Dilbert San Diego

And this will sound mean, but not all of the “stigma” should be removed.


44 posted on 01/13/2014 10:51:30 AM PST by crazycatlady
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To: sheana

Yes, good point. A lot of people are confused about this.


45 posted on 01/13/2014 10:54:05 AM PST by crazycatlady
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To: crazycatlady

if you can afford Disney World, you should not be on welfare.


46 posted on 01/13/2014 10:56:16 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: SeekAndFind

Welfare Recipients Take EBT to Disney World and Vegas:

Reparations for the “War on Poverty” — Thank You, LBJ! (sarc)


47 posted on 01/13/2014 10:59:42 AM PST by Polyxene (Out of the depths I have cried to Thee, O Lord; Lord, hear my voice.)
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To: cuban leaf

“Now, don’t get me wrong, it seems like a requirement here some times of the year, but if no AC was good enough for the rich a hundred years ago, it’s good enough for those who live off handouts.”

It is never a requirement. It is a luxury.

I grew up in Texas where it gets a lot hotter and never had a/c until I left home after college.

I still was able to make it and now appreciate a/c so much more than those who never had to do without.


48 posted on 01/13/2014 11:04:41 AM PST by bestintxas (Obamacare = Obamascrewed)
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To: GeronL

Here in Indiana a local tv station ran the same type of story on where our TANF swipes showed up.

We had both Disneys (Cal and Fl) but the best was the Nevada brothels, LOL.


49 posted on 01/13/2014 11:08:10 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: nascarnation

If it was at food stores, gas stations etc. near the brothels, it could very well be the brothel employees and/or their families who are working off the books or otherwise fudging. I’ve never been to Nevada, and could wrong, if course. But see my earlier post. Prostitution and welfare shennanigans seem to go hand in hand a lot.
According to the book Mustang Ranch, a lot of the girls were married or cohabiting with families who lived close enough to visit.


50 posted on 01/13/2014 11:25:18 AM PST by crazycatlady
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