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‘Conservatives Need to Run’: Beck Says Christie Scandal Is ‘Everything We Despise’ in Barack Obama
The Blaze ^ | Jan. 9, 2014 | Erica Ritz

Posted on 01/13/2014 10:13:45 AM PST by xzins

Glenn Beck on Thursday likened New Jersey Governor Chris Christie’s bridge scandal to a long list of scandals tied to President Obama, saying both illustrate “why you don’t give so much power to the government.”

“The ends justify the means,” Beck said. “This Chris Christie story is everything we despise in Barack Obama.”

Members of Christie’s staff are accused of closing access lanes to the George Washington Bridge as a way to get back at Mayor Mark Sokolich, who did not support Christie’s re-election bid.

Beck referenced a CNN interview in which DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman-Schultz claimed the president’s purported ignorance of scandals is different than Christie’s. As she saw it, the president was unaware of “policy issues,” whereas Christie’s was a scandal “in which his staff and possibly him exacted political retribution…”

“How is that different than the IRS scandal?” Beck demanded. His co-host Stu Burguiere argued that if anything, it’s “not as bad.”

Glenn Beck Responds to Chris Christie Bridge Scandal: Everything We Despise in Barack Obama Glenn Beck speaks on his radio program Jan. 9, 2014. (Photo: TheBlaze TV)

“Same attitude,” Burguiere summarized. “And if Chris Christie was president, he would do something similar – maybe not to the level of payback – but he would do something similar to punish his enemies.”

And as was the case with the president, Beck said that even if Christie didn’t explicitly give the order, his ignorance is just as troubling.

“It shows he’s putting horrible people around him and creating some sort of environment where these people think it’s a good idea, it is going to please their boss, to punish … his enemies,” Burguiere noted.

Beck warned that “conservatives need to run from Chris Christie,” saying this is the “quintessential example of why I’m against him.”

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And Beck added that if he starts supporting Christie in 2016 because he is the “lesser of two evils,” his co-hosts need to “slap” him. He went so far as to compare the state of the country — and the Republican Party in particular — to his days as an alcoholic.

Every morning, Beck said he would wake up and say he wasn’t going to drink that day. But something always happened, and he always ended up doing it. The radio host said eventually he was so disgusted with himself that he couldn’t even look in the mirror.

“That’s exactly where we are,” Beck said. “Every election, (we say) we’re not going to vote for one of those guys.”

But when the time comes, conservatives always rationalize that the Republican nominee is at least better than the Democrat, and get sucked back in.

“It’s time to stand up and say what you mean, mean what you say, and accept the consequences,” Beck said, encouraging people to be honest, decent, and true to their beliefs. “Let’s be a curious people that just get down to it, do it for the right reasons, and in the end, you’ll win.”


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
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1 posted on 01/13/2014 10:13:45 AM PST by xzins
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To: xzins

“That’s exactly where we are,” Beck said. “Every election, (we say) we’re not going to vote for one of those guys.”

But when the time comes, conservatives always rationalize that the Republican nominee is at least better than the Democrat, and get sucked back in.

“It’s time to stand up and say what you mean, mean what you say, and accept the consequences,” Beck said, encouraging people to be honest, decent, and true to their beliefs.


2 posted on 01/13/2014 10:14:03 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

can’t argue with true words…. it is time for all good men to come to the aid of their (party) COUNTRY


3 posted on 01/13/2014 10:18:35 AM PST by Nifster
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To: xzins

Learned your lesson on associating with 0bummer yet?


4 posted on 01/13/2014 10:19:01 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Pajama-boy-in-chief's beatings continue until morale improves.)
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To: xzins

The only way to win, is not to play that game


5 posted on 01/13/2014 10:19:22 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: CincyRichieRich

I did learn a lesson about wasting a vote for Romney


6 posted on 01/13/2014 10:20:31 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

well let’s see I believe that O won the last election and there were lots of conservatives who sat out the presidential portion of the election. They said no way will I vote for the lesser of two evils. It is good to have O for another four years because THEN we will realize what needs to happen.

We are reaping the results of that thinking… we have O for another four (who knows maybe for ever). The reason the lefties win is because they take a hal a loaf or a quarter of a loaf and keep pressing.

I am all for a conservative nominee for the GOP to be president but please let us not engage in trying to find ‘the perfect’ candidate when we can in fact have a ‘good enough’ candidate. We watched Romney and fellow conservatives chew up and spit out any one who wasn’t perfect. We got Romney and folks stayed home.


7 posted on 01/13/2014 10:22:38 AM PST by Nifster
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To: xzins

Hey Glen, welcome to the party. Better late than never.

Now about the gay thing...


8 posted on 01/13/2014 10:23:29 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: xzins

The Tea Party/Conservative vote got split between too many candidates, allowing the GOPe candidate to be the last man standing. How do we stop that from happening again?


9 posted on 01/13/2014 10:23:34 AM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: xzins
But when the time comes, conservatives always rationalize that the Republican nominee is at least better than the Democrat, and get sucked back in.

I think the last election proves that conservatives, at least, are waking up. If the GOP runs the same type of establishment figure they did in '08 and '12 then we'd better get used to seeing Her Royal Thighness and The Great Stainmaker back in the WH.

10 posted on 01/13/2014 10:23:54 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: Nifster

Only caveat is that Christie fired the people responsible and apologized. Not making excuses, but no one is ever held responsible in Obama administration and it is always someone else’s fault. One may not support Christie because of the abuse and I have no problem with that, but as of yet, no one has shown Christie is on par with Obama.


11 posted on 01/13/2014 10:24:24 AM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: xzins

Beck is right. Christie sets the tone.


12 posted on 01/13/2014 10:26:47 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: 11th Commandment

agreed….


13 posted on 01/13/2014 10:26:55 AM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Romney wasnt ‘good enough’. He was a political twin of the lib he ran against and all his voters empowered the GOP leftward.

That’s the result of lesser evil voting. See the past 30 years for one example after another. Hopefully enough people learned the stupidity of lesser evil voting.


14 posted on 01/13/2014 10:27:24 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: xzins

No, not all of us rationalize things and get sucked back in. Many of us do reach a breaking point, where we refuse to sell our souls. It happened to me in 2012.


15 posted on 01/13/2014 10:27:52 AM PST by greene66
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To: Twotone

Move all primaries to a 45-60 day window and rotate which ones go first.


16 posted on 01/13/2014 10:32:05 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Nifster
We watched Romney and fellow conservatives chew up and spit out any one who wasn’t perfect. We got Romney and folks stayed home.

It is impossible to deny that Romney turned to the left and intentionally rejected social conservatives. At various times he supported gay unions, gay adoption, gay scout leaders, gun control, big government health care, and crony capitalism. It is simply undeniable.

Do you honestly think he and his team did that accidentally? It was a STRATEGY. The Romney team strategy was to peel off liberals/moderates from Obama who might have had other issues with Obama.

This was no accidental slip of the tongue on his part. It was throughout his campaign. The strategic thinkers told him that he'd peel off enough liberals to balance the social conservative that he offended.

And the results of this intentional strategy was:

1. The liberals voted for Obama anyway.

2. He succeeded in offending millions of social conservatives who TOOK HIM AT HIS OWN WORD.

So, it is only shallow analysis that lays this at the feet of social conservatives when it was Romney's strategic team who came up with this idea in the first place.

It didn't work. It's his fault. In the same way as Custer was responsible for bad strategy at the Little Big Horn, Romney was responsible for bad strategy in the 2012 election. We can blame others for Custer's epic fail, but he was the leader who engaged at the wrong time, the wrong place, and in the wrong way.

17 posted on 01/13/2014 10:33:33 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Nifster
We watched Romney and fellow conservatives chew up and spit out any one who wasn’t perfect. We got Romney and folks stayed home.

Agree , but with a few minor differences. First off the father of Romneycare was no conservative. Second, progressives don't settle for half a loaf in their candidates at least. Their candidates may mouth a few "moderate" positions (i.e. 0bama's original "rejection" of homosexual marriage and single payer). In the end though he's always believed in those things, he's just saying what he needs to peel away a few Democrats who still have a conscience. He was and always will be a Marxist radical.

Policywise, yes they will settle for half a loaf (the 0bamacare trainwreck in order to get to single payer) , but they never lose sight of the main objective and above all they NEVER let their scandals bog them down. The point is our side needs to reject the McCain's and the Karl Rove candidates who are only in it for their own power.

18 posted on 01/13/2014 10:34:31 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: Twotone

I agree and a solution to this would be great.


19 posted on 01/13/2014 10:35:24 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Twotone
The way to do it is to coalesce around Ted Cruz, who gave us the magnificent 21 hours. As far as conservatives splitting the vote goes, we haven't had a conservative of the caliber of Ted Cruz for decades. Instead, we've had a whole lot of people spouting conservative rhetoric, pandering to us for votes.

Looking at the US Senate, the exception might be Jeff Sessions. He seems pretty solid in understanding and supporting constitutioanl conservative values.

20 posted on 01/13/2014 10:42:46 AM PST by grania
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To: grania

I’ll be with Cruz if he decides to run, but he’d also be great on the Supreme Court. I guess he can still be appointed after two terms as president. :-)


21 posted on 01/13/2014 10:45:05 AM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: 11th Commandment

Only caveat is that Christie fired the people responsible and apologized.

Correction: he fired the people HE SAID were responsible. You believe him, automatically, that he had no involvement.

And even if he didn’t order the roads closed, he did nothing while they stayed closed for four days, and didn’t fight to get to the bottom of why it was happening. Some “hands on problem-solver”. This was big, arrogant government making life worse for average people, and Chris Christie - even if he didn’t cause it - didn’t do squat to solve it.


22 posted on 01/13/2014 10:45:36 AM PST by WilliamIII
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To: Nifster
We watched Romney and fellow conservatives chew up and spit out any one who wasn’t perfect.

I don't require perfect; but there's absolutely no sense in voting for Obama's political clone.
I voted for former New Mexico governor Gary Johnson, the Libertarian party's candidate, who is far, far better a candidate than Romney.
I would have gladly voted for Ron Paul, had he won the nomination. (And I had no problem with the others: Sanatorum, Gingrich, etc.)

I promised myself after voting McCain (2008) that I would never again "hold my nose" and vote for a candidate: voting Romney would violate that promise.

23 posted on 01/13/2014 10:48:24 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: xzins

There is a resemblance between Christy and Capone. You do not want to turn your back to these people.


24 posted on 01/13/2014 10:56:14 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: OneWingedShark

Thats the thing. We get slammed by the GOP fans about ‘purity’ and ‘purists’ being the problem.

Not one of us that I recall ever said squat about electing Christ. Personally I went by the 80% rule that USED to be the well accepted standard. Romney did bot hit double digits for conservatism. But he pretty much redlined the meter on his record of liberalism.

The saving grace to all this is that there remain but a handful of people claiming that they’ll vote R no matter what. All the screaming and tantrums got them nothing. Many of the names I and others used to argue this with now admit they were wrong or simply refuse to talk about it.

I’d say we have been vindicated. Not that the remaining cheerleaders for lesser evil will ever wake up and accept it.


25 posted on 01/13/2014 11:04:53 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: xzins

Romney was never a viable candidate.

His negatives on homosexuality, socialized medicine, and immigration were such that a sizable portion of the base would vote third party or abstain no matter what rhetoric was used to try to weedle them.

People opposed to him who voted for him anyway sacrificed principal without even a remote possibility of gain.


26 posted on 01/13/2014 11:11:32 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: 11th Commandment

Christie didn’t fire the people responsible. That would be himself and he is still there.

Christie threw some underlings to the wolves to escape further consequences.


27 posted on 01/13/2014 11:14:07 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: xzins
I did learn a lesson about wasting a vote for Romney

"They said if I voted for Romney, the country would be in the hands of a bizarre cult worshiping a ludicrous god, and they were right!"
Ace of Spades HQ

28 posted on 01/13/2014 11:18:27 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: xzins

Probably right.


29 posted on 01/13/2014 11:19:25 AM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: xzins

My Dog told me not to vote for Romney.

My Dog was right. Little bits of information that the MSM can grab and run with will always be their favorite toy.


30 posted on 01/13/2014 11:40:23 AM PST by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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To: xzins
Christie Scandal Is ‘Everything We Despise’ in Barack Obama

Close, but not accurate enough. May I try?

GOPe Republicans, Such as Christie, Are ‘Everything We Despise’ in Barack Obama

^This^ gets much closer to the gun grabbing, progressive truth of Christie and the once grand old party.

None for me, thanks...trying to quit.

31 posted on 01/13/2014 11:47:15 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: WilliamIII
Correction: he fired the people HE SAID were responsible. You believe him, automatically, that he had no involvement.

I hold the possibility he knew as well he did not know. It would seem odd to me that when he allegedly learned that the lane closures were a traffic study it would have taken 2 follow-up questions to find out that was a bogus answer. But on the other hand, this was a stupid stunt that never hurt the Mayor but immediately bounced to the governors office. Christie is not a stupid person.

I just wish the press would be as tough on Dem or Rep, we need to watch these guys.

32 posted on 01/13/2014 1:01:38 PM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Norm Lenhart

in the primaries I am with you but for those who sat on their hands when it was Romney or O I say a pox on them all.


33 posted on 01/13/2014 2:11:52 PM PST by Nifster
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To: xzins

I laid nothing at the hands of ‘social’ conservatives. I did lay it at the hands of those that sat on theirs saying that O and Romney were the same thing. They were and are not. We have O. So what are WE going to do about it???


34 posted on 01/13/2014 2:13:42 PM PST by Nifster
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To: OneWingedShark

and your vote gave us O…

Gary Johnson on a good day is a lunatic and nothing like a conservative


35 posted on 01/13/2014 2:14:26 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster
I did lay it at the hands of those that sat on theirs saying that O and Romney were the same thing

Close, but not exact.

I voted for Romney ONLY because I couldn't imagine anyone as bad on the just-breaking Benghazi as Obama had been.

And then Romney chickened out and last month Ryan attacked our troops.

So even on that I was wrong.

36 posted on 01/13/2014 2:21:42 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Nifster

I really want to understand. Why exactly do you feel that electing a RINO that is guaranteed to stab you in the back and run left is better than a Dem that will stab you in the back and is already there?

I’m not being a smart ass. We have 30 years of history proving that electing lesser evils led to the Bhoner/Rubio/Ryan GOP. Why do want to continue on that path?


37 posted on 01/13/2014 2:32:37 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Nifster
and your vote gave us O…

No, it didn't.
If voting for someone who lost is the same as voting for Obama, then you voted for Obama when you voted for Romney.

Gary Johnson on a good day is a lunatic and nothing like a conservative

I know that while the state was still pretty solidly Democrat he did a good enough job to get a second term and leave office with a better budgetary state than he came in on.

38 posted on 01/13/2014 2:35:04 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Nifster; EternalVigilance
I am with you but for those who sat on their hands when it was Romney or O I say a pox on them all.

I didn't sit on my hands, I voted for Gary Johnson because that was the best candidate I knew of. If he hadn't run, I would have gone with FR's EternalVigilance.
You see, the GOP isn't entitled to my vote, it has to earn it. I am through giving the party "the benefit of the doubt", let their actions show what their goals are. I'm through "holding my nose" and voting for a candidate, so I'm going to vote for people I think can and will do a good job.

The attitude you embrace is dangerously close to if you don't agree with me, you're wrong — because there's nothing in there to allow for another human to be their own moral agent and judge for themselves whether or not the candidate is unacceptable.

39 posted on 01/13/2014 2:41:57 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: GeronL

“A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?” — WOPR computer in War Games


40 posted on 01/13/2014 3:02:34 PM PST by mc5cents (Pray for America)
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To: mc5cents

bump


41 posted on 01/13/2014 3:03:56 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Nifster

What I ask of the GOP candidate in 2016 are these few things:

* That he/she not be a progressive
* That he/she fight in the general election with at least TWICE the fervor as the primary fight
* That he/she truly believe in a constitutionally limited federal government
* That he/she selects a running mate that shares the same beliefs
* That he/she aggressively prosecute the crimes perpetrated by the current administration

There are plenty more wish list items but these will be sufficient to earn my vote. If we get another milquetoast pantywaist progressive moderate I’ll write in “Sarah Palin”.


42 posted on 01/13/2014 3:20:06 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: Two Kids' Dad

The whole thing with this mess is simple economics. Subsideze something and you get more of it. I find it odd that the econo-cons that are most often behind the RINOs here and elsewhere are so utterly clueless to that simple fact. And that is exactly what a vote is. You and I subsidize pols with our votes. Because without them, they are out of power or never achieve it to begin with.

In the end, a very small number now ‘bitterly cling’ to the ideas that helped destroy the country they claim to love.

Now of course they hare hearing that. they spin out, hit the wall and scream a lot. But we are all human and make mistakes. It’s just that most of us have realized it.

I voted for McCain to get Palin. I made a mistake. People got scared and voted for Romney. They made a mistake. These mistakes helped greenlight the GOP rush to the left since they rightly figured the cries of “The Dem is worse!” would win the day.

It did. And here we are. Now, after seeing Ryan screw vets, Bhoner screw everyone and McCain/Ghramm/McColnel and the lesser cast of disasters SPRINT leftward, with their pro gay, anti christian/pro illegal immigration bullshit...there is no excuse. NONE.

Anyone now voting for a Republican lesser than a Ted Cruiz type is as guilty as an Obama liberal of ruining this country.

Let the sycophants scream and call us bad names. Screw them.


43 posted on 01/13/2014 3:42:03 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: xzins

I agree Ryan is dead to me. I too voted against O and that ballot had Romney on it.


44 posted on 01/13/2014 3:43:58 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Norm Lenhart

There were people during the primary season who wouldn’t vote for )fill in the blank) because either they were divorced or they weren’t pure enough or all sorts of reasons. WE have to come together to get conservatives elected that means primaries too. romney won it because people refused to hang together.

I still think that Romney would have been a better choice than O… and I don’t care if I get flamed. Romney would not have done to the US what O already has. Would he have been great and like Reagan. Of course not but it would have been a start.

Perhaps this time around we will find a way to back a conservative


45 posted on 01/13/2014 3:47:03 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Romney was lying about at least half of his “core beliefs”

please never ask me to vote for someone we all know is lying to our faces

I won’t


46 posted on 01/13/2014 3:49:14 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Two Kids' Dad

I can live with that list. How does Ted Cruz sound too you? I have already read here lots of belly aching because he ‘can’t’ run because he is not natural born


47 posted on 01/13/2014 3:50:41 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Norm Lenhart

bump


48 posted on 01/13/2014 3:52:45 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Nifster

Well his record shows he would have. Because we KNOW anything he says changes by the hour. That fact aside, Yes. We have to come together.

And we cannot do that until a portion of the Right decides what they really believe in and what side they are on. I know of no actual ‘purist’ here. Perhaps there are. But the vast majority of us will bend. But there is a huge difference between bending and breaking.


49 posted on 01/13/2014 3:59:42 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Nifster
I didn't sit out...and neither did my close family.

That said....Romney was/is a loser...just like McCain was/is a loser, Just like Dole was/is a loser!!!

Just like the GOPe is a LOSER....

Which takes me to this....The DIM's and the GOOBER's are in this together....( there's no other way to conclude, really...) and nothing short of rebellion by American citizens will stop this.

I predict we all will be fighting amongst ourselves next POTUS election...once again. Because we will have a undesirable candidate tied around our necks again...

I hope I'm wrong.

50 posted on 01/13/2014 4:15:53 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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