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Posted on 01/13/2014 11:39:29 AM PST by Kaslin
Right now, China and Russia are having a great laugh at Americas expense. For a once proud country with strong moral character and intellectual ambition, we have become a nation intent on destroying itself from within. The publicly sanctioned and widespread celebration of indolent potheads toking themselves into oblivion in Colorado is only the latest example.
We have come a long way from Nancy Reagans largely successful Just Say No campaign to educate students on the dangers of drugs and their consequences. Call it You Can Say Yes.
In the minds of many conservatives, the lines are becoming quickly blurred on the legalization of mind-altering substances as well as the punishment of drug offenders. Libertarians are taking up the cause to push for universal legalization of marijuana around the country. Some are doing this because of Americans growing fear of our governments intrusion into our private lives while others are doing it because of easier access to their favorite recreational pastime. Indeed, the latter motivation seems to be so popular, that it quickly turned into one of the most popular battle cries amongst the young adults for the election of Rep. Ron Paul in the 2012 Republican Primary.
Unfortunately, many traditional Conservatives are also getting on the drug bus because they have bought the Democrat lie that the money collected by drug users could be fiscally beneficial. In the most recent year, Colorado generated $9.1 million in retail sales tax from the sale of medical marijuana. This figure is bound to grow with the introduction of recreational sales and the additional 25% in excise and sales taxes since becoming legal on January 1st.
Looking beyond just the tax revenue, the industry generates millions of dollars every year for the state from licensing and application fees. To apply for and obtain a license to run a medical marijuana facility serving more than 500 patients, for instance, the necessary application and license fees alone approach $40,000. Colorado has agreed to take this new revenue and use it for the education of its children and construction of new schools. Does this mean at 18 every high school graduate will be handed their diploma and a doobie with the instructions to get addicted in order to help fund future generations educations?
We are now seeing a very odd mix of bedfellows. One of my favorite Tea Party Senators, Mike Lee of Utah, and one of the most odious liberals in the Senate today, Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois, both are now in agreement to reduce the mandatory jail sentence time on non-violent drug offenses in hopes of reducing prison expenses. A federal inmates yearly cost for one inmate ranges from $21,000 to $33,000 depending on the prison's level of security. Because of the current system, about half of the nation's more than 218,000 federal inmates are serving time for drug crimes with virtually all of them subjected by some form of mandatory minimum sentencing.
Am I living in the twilight zone right now? Has our country become so ignorant that we have abandoned one of the few positive goals of eliminating substances from our cultural landscape? Drugs that have reduced the productivity, health and advancement of our society? Dont think drugs have a negative effect on the community? Just look to Washington State, where within the first 6 months of pot being legalized, 745 drivers stopped by the police tested positive for marijuanas psychoactive ingredient THC and over half of those tested were over the states legal limit of 5 nanograms. This means there are more impaired drivers on the roads of Washington and now Colorado driving alongside families on their way to school and people on their way to work. Please tell me how a price can be put on their safety or tell me that drugs cannot hurt innocent bystanders? Please go ask a family who has lost a loved one to drug use or more importantly whose family was affected by someone under the influence.
We are witnessing the steady decline and intentional corrosion of Americas social structure. This is the ultimate goal of leftists: total control of the state that would make middle and lower class its feudal subjects. What better way to destroy a culture then to encourage mind altering substance use by the general public?
Ronald Reagan often quoted John Winthrops shining City upon a Hill but ultimately under these types of legislative policy, we might suffer more the fate as predicted by Alexis de Toqueville who said America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.
Liberalism is a Drug.
What a bunch of utter nonsense.
This sounds like 1932 and those opposed to Prohibition being repealed.
Not worth the time to go point by point on why the author’s article is idiotic.
I can see a copout but what I can't see is why you copout.
You can avoid reality but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.
fine by me
drugs help increase the distance between the winners and losers
my only problem is being FORCED to pay for them. screw that
Once he declared “Just say no” a success we knew this article was a pack of lies and BS.
“Just look to Washington State, where within the first 6 months of pot being legalized, 745 drivers stopped by the police tested positive for marijuanas psychoactive ingredient THC and over half of those tested were over the states legal limit of 5 nanograms.”
How many tested positive in the 6 months prior to legelization?
Go home, America. You’re high.
This new milieu of "legal-makes-moral" is the hallmark of a degenerate society. We once had relatively few laws because a moral underpinning, a societal fabric of morality, created and upheld effective taboos that were every bit, if not more so, effective as laws.
Now, that underpinning of a moral standard has been, after many decades of attacks by the destructive Left, virtually destroyed. In fact, the taboos which once made society liveable are now CRIMINALIZED as "hate speech," discrimination, and "theocracy" in the name of the fictional "separation of church and state."
Seems to me gun-grabbers and nanny-staters use this line of debate.
The war on drugs is a failure.
“We are witnessing the steady decline and intentional corrosion of Americas social structure”
-Drugs play a minor role in that. Users are going to use, they’re going to get it one way or the other. The more taboo you make it, the more appealing it becomes.
You could NEVER get a job in the MSM, lol.
I just don’t get why some on FR think that we should spend billions of dollars to combat pot use, when it obviously isn’t working when you are essentially trying to combat the smoking of a plant that can be grown almost anywhere.
And 100 years ago, it wasn’t even illegal! Spend the resources on hard stuff like crack, meth, ecstasy, LSD, and stuff that requires actual chemical manufacturing and not just a flower pot, dirt, and sun.
Fact: Russia is a nation of alcoholics, and China has a huge narcotics problem, with rehabs jammed full.
All Righty Then. The points the author makes against legalization are idiotic.
Suppose YOU take the time to make just one point on why legalizing drugs is a GOOD idea.
Collect all the taxes you want. The money will be used to hire Democrats and buy Democrat votes.
Why do some folks think that having cops kicking down doors, shooting dogs, and seizing assets over pot is good idea.
I’ve completely made the migration from “drug war supporter” to “tell the effin’ cops to settle down.”
We should see this as a golden opportunity...
If colorado can tell the federal agencies like the DEA to go take a hike on federal drug restrictions...
Then maybe a Other States out there can start telling the other federal agencies to go take a hike....
Maybe even saying “We refuse to enforce and EPA restrictions the state legislature finds limiting and if you wish to Stop us, start with Colorado...”
Might be interesting to see if Mr. Hughes has any money or contacts in the “Prison/Industrial Complex.”
[ Why do some folks think that having cops kicking down doors, shooting dogs, and seizing assets over pot is good idea.
Ive completely made the migration from drug war supporter to tell the effin cops to settle down. ]
It is not the Drug war that is bad per se... It is HOW the Drug war has been executed...
A good chunk of the war on drugs would be actually closing down the southern border to any movement except well patroled checkpoints and crossings... Maybe even put up some chain-link, razor wire, and automated gunnery turrets with big warning signs...
But it is far better for the controllers to declare war on the citizens in the drug on wars so when they actually roll out with martial law we are all used to it....
Heck you wanna stop drug use I have an idea...
1. Quietly intercept drug shipments and poison them with a random poison.
2. Run a PSA that tells everyone drugs do indeed contain poison because the government put the poison in there.
3. Repeat 1 and 2 until the problem takes care of itself...
No shooting of dogs or no knock raids required...
You can thank the punks from the 60's for this. A more accurate name for them would be, "useful idiots." They followed the communists who were determined to destroy the oountry.
If by "social structure" you mean - spending taxpayer money to stop, arrest, convict & incarcerate people for what they put in their bodies while destroying what little we have of the Fourth Amendment then I don't see the problem.
The anti-pot crowd is as bad as the anti-gun crowd when they say things like how concealed carry will be/is the end of our country as we know it.
First woven fabric believed to be from hemp.
Jamestown Colony, Virginia passes law requiring farmers to grow hemp.
Hemp was the primary crop grown by George Washington at Mount Vernon, and a secondary crop grown by Thomas Jefferson at Monticello.
Maine is the first state to outlaw alcohol.
Pure Food and Drug Act is passed, forming the Food and Drug Administration. First time that drugs have any government oversight.
California, apparently, passes the first state marijuana law, though missed by many because it referred to preparations of hemp, or loco weed.
Harrison Act passed, outlawing opiates and cocaine (taxing scheme.
Utah passes state anti-marijuana law.
18th Amendment to the Constitution (alcohol prohibition) is ratified.
Harry J. Anslinger given control of the new Federal Bureau of Narcotics (he remains in the position until 1962)
21st Amendment to the Constitution is ratified, repealing alcohol prohibition.
Marijuana Tax Act
Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act
Boggs Amendment to the Harrison Narcotic Act (mandatory sentences)
Narcotics Control Act adds more severe penalties
Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act. Replaces and updates all previous laws concerning narcotics and other dangerous drugs. Emphasis on law enforcement. Includes the Controlled Substances Act, where marijuana is classified a Schedule 1 drug (reserved for the most dangerous drugs that have no recognized medical use).
Drug Abuse Office and Treatment Act. Establishes federally funded programs for prevention and treatment.
Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) Changes Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs into the DEA
1974 and 1978
Drug Abuse Treatment and Control Amendments. Extends 1972 act.
Anti-Drug Abuse Act. Establishes oversight office: National Office of Drug Control Policy and the Drug Czar.
ADAMHA Reorganization. Transfers NIDA, NIMH, and NIAAA to NIH and incorporates ADAMHAs programs into the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA).
Many people assume that marijuana was made illegal through some kind of process involving scientific, medical, and government hearings; that it was to protect the citizens from what was determined to be a dangerous drug.
The actual story shows a much different picture. Those who voted on the legal fate of this plant never had the facts, but were dependent on information supplied by those who had a specific agenda to deceive lawmakers. Youll see below that the very first federal vote to prohibit marijuana was based entirely on a documented lie on the floor of the Senate.
Youll also see that the history of marijuanas criminalization is filled with:
These are the actual reasons marijuana is illegal.
For most of human history, marijuana has been completely legal. Its not a recently discovered plant, nor is it a long-standing law. Marijuana has been illegal for less than 1% of the time that its been in use. Its known uses go back further than 7,000 B.C. and it was legal as recently as when Ronald Reagan was a boy.
The marijuana (hemp) plant, of course, has an incredible number of uses. The earliest known woven fabric was apparently of hemp, and over the centuries the plant was used for food, incense, cloth, rope, and much more. This adds to some of the confusion over its introduction in the United States, as the plant was well known from the early 1600′s, but did not reach public awareness as a recreational drug until the early 1900′s.
Americas first marijuana law was enacted at Jamestown Colony, Virginia in 1619. It was a law ordering all farmers to grow Indian hempseed. There were several other must grow laws over the next 200 years (you could be jailed for not growing hemp during times of shortage in Virginia between 1763 and 1767), and during most of that time, hemp was legal tender (you could even pay your taxes with hemp try that today!) Hemp was such a critical crop for a number of purposes (including essential war requirements rope, etc.) that the government went out of its way to encourage growth.
The United States Census of 1850 counted 8,327 hemp plantations (minimum 2,000-acre farm) growing cannabis hemp for cloth, canvas and even the cordage used for baling cotton.
In the early 1900s, the western states developed significant tensions regarding the influx of Mexican-Americans. The revolution in Mexico in 1910 spilled over the border, with General Pershings army clashing with bandit Pancho Villa. Later in that decade, bad feelings developed between the small farmer and the large farms that used cheaper Mexican labor. Then, the depression came and increased tensions, as jobs and welfare resources became scarce.
One of the differences seized upon during this time was the fact that many Mexicans smoked marijuana and had brought the plant with them, and it was through this that California apparently passed the first state marijuana law, outlawing preparations of hemp, or loco weed.
However, one of the first state laws outlawing marijuana may have been influenced, not just by Mexicans using the drug, but, oddly enough, because of Mormons using it. Mormons who traveled to Mexico in 1910 came back to Salt Lake City with marijuana. The churchs reaction to this may have contributed to the states marijuana law. (Note: the source for this speculation is from articles by Charles Whitebread, Professor of Law at USC Law School in a paper for the Virginia Law Review, and a speech to the California Judges Association (sourced below). Mormon blogger Ardis Parshall disputes this.)
Other states quickly followed suit with marijuana prohibition laws, including Wyoming (1915), Texas (1919), Iowa (1923), Nevada (1923), Oregon (1923), Washington (1923), Arkansas (1923), and Nebraska (1927). These laws tended to be specifically targeted against the Mexican-American population.
When Montana outlawed marijuana in 1927, the Butte Montana Standard reported a legislators comment: When some beet field peon takes a few traces of this stuff he thinks he has just been elected president of Mexico, so he starts out to execute all his political enemies. In Texas, a senator said on the floor of the Senate: All Mexicans are crazy, and this stuff [marijuana] is what makes them crazy.
In the eastern states, the problem was attributed to a combination of Latin Americans and black jazz musicians. Marijuana and jazz traveled from New Orleans to Chicago, and then to Harlem, where marijuana became an indispensable part of the music scene, even entering the language of the black hits of the time (Louis Armstrongs Muggles, Cab Calloways That Funny Reefer Man, Fats Wallers Vipers Drag).
Again, racism was part of the charge against marijuana, as newspapers in 1934 editorialized: Marihuana influences Negroes to look at white people in the eye, step on white mens shadows and look at a white woman twice.
Two other fear-tactic rumors started to spread: one, that Mexicans, Blacks and other foreigners were snaring white children with marijuana; and two, the story of the assassins. Early stories of Marco Polo had told of hasheesh-eaters or hashashin, from which derived the term assassin. In the original stories, these professional killers were given large doses of hashish and brought to the rulers garden (to give them a glimpse of the paradise that awaited them upon successful completion of their mission). Then, after the effects of the drug disappeared, the assassin would fulfill his rulers wishes with cool, calculating loyalty.
By the 1930s, the story had changed. Dr. A. E. Fossier wrote in the 1931 New Orleans Medical and Surgical Journal: Under the influence of hashish those fanatics would madly rush at their enemies, and ruthlessly massacre every one within their grasp. Within a very short time, marijuana started being linked to violent behavior.
During this time, the United States was also dealing with alcohol prohibition, which lasted from 1919 to 1933. Alcohol prohibition was extremely visible and debated at all levels, while drug laws were passed without the general publics knowledge. National alcohol prohibition happened through the mechanism of an amendment to the constitution.
Earlier (1914), the Harrison Act was passed, which provided federal tax penalties for opiates and cocaine.
The federal approach is important. It was considered at the time that the federal government did not have the constitutional power to outlaw alcohol or drugs. It is because of this that alcohol prohibition required a constitutional amendment.
At that time in our countrys history, the judiciary regularly placed the tenth amendment in the path of congressional regulation of local affairs, and direct regulation of medical practice was considered beyond congressional power under the commerce clause (since then, both provisions have been weakened so far as to have almost no meaning).
Since drugs could not be outlawed at the federal level, the decision was made to use federal taxes as a way around the restriction. In the Harrison Act, legal uses of opiates and cocaine were taxed (supposedly as a revenue need by the federal government, which is the only way it would hold up in the courts), and those who didnt follow the law found themselves in trouble with the treasury department.
In 1930, a new division in the Treasury Department was established the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Harry J. Anslinger was named director. This, if anything, marked the beginning of the all-out war against marijuana.
Anslinger was an extremely ambitious man, and he recognized the Bureau of Narcotics as an amazing career opportunity a new government agency with the opportunity to define both the problem and the solution. He immediately realized that opiates and cocaine wouldnt be enough to help build his agency, so he latched on to marijuana and started to work on making it illegal at the federal level.
Anslinger immediately drew upon the themes of racism and violence to draw national attention to the problem he wanted to create. He also promoted and frequently read from Gore Files wild reefer-madness-style exploitation tales of ax murderers on marijuana and sex and Negroes. Here are some quotes that have been widely attributed to Anslinger and his Gore Files:
the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races.
. Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death.
Reefer makes darkies think theyre as good as white men.
Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing
You smoke a joint and youre likely to kill your brother.
Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind.
And he loved to pull out his own version of the assassin definition:
Harry Anslinger got some additional help from William Randolf Hearst, owner of a huge chain of newspapers. Hearst had lots of reasons to help. First, he hated Mexicans. Second, he had invested heavily in the timber industry to support his newspaper chain and didnt want to see the development of hemp paper in competition. Third, he had lost 800,000 acres of timberland to Pancho Villa, so he hated Mexicans. Fourth, telling lurid lies about Mexicans (and the devil marijuana weed causing violence) sold newspapers, making him rich.
Some samples from the San Francisco Examiner:
By the tons it is coming into this country the deadly, dreadful poison that racks and tears not only the body, but the very heart and soul of every human being who once becomes a slave to it in any of its cruel and devastating forms . Marihuana is a short cut to the insane asylum. Smoke marihuana cigarettes for a month and what was once your brain will be nothing but a storehouse of horrid specters. Hasheesh makes a murderer who kills for the love of killing out of the mildest mannered man who ever laughed at the idea that any habit could ever get him .
And other nationwide columns
Hearst and Anslinger were then supported by Dupont chemical company and various pharmaceutical companies in the effort to outlaw cannabis. Dupont had patented nylon, and wanted hemp removed as competition. The pharmaceutical companies could neither identify nor standardize cannabis dosages, and besides, with cannabis, folks could grow their own medicine and not have to purchase it from large companies.
This all set the stage for
After two years of secret planning, Anslinger brought his plan to Congress complete with a scrapbook full of sensational Hearst editorials, stories of ax murderers who had supposedly smoked marijuana, and racial slurs.
It was a remarkably short set of hearings.
The one fly in Anslingers ointment was the appearance by Dr. William C. Woodward, Legislative Council of the American Medical Association.
Woodward started by slamming Harry Anslinger and the Bureau of Narcotics for distorting earlier AMA statements that had nothing to do with marijuana and making them appear to be AMA endorsement for Anslingers view.
He also reproached the legislature and the Bureau for using the term marijuana in the legislation and not publicizing it as a bill about cannabis or hemp. At this point, marijuana (or marihuana) was a sensationalist word used to refer to Mexicans smoking a drug and had not been connected in most peoples minds to the existing cannabis/hemp plant. Thus, many who had legitimate reasons to oppose the bill werent even aware of it.
Woodward went on to state that the AMA was opposed to the legislation and further questioned the approach of the hearings, coming close to outright accusation of misconduct by Anslinger and the committee:
But yet no one has been produced from the Bureau of Prisons to show the number of prisoners who have been found addicted to the marihuana habit. An informed inquiry shows that the Bureau of Prisons has no evidence on that point.
You have been told that school children are great users of marihuana cigarettes. No one has been summoned from the Childrens Bureau to show the nature and extent of the habit, among children.
Inquiry of the Childrens Bureau shows that they have had no occasion to investigate it and know nothing particularly of it.
Inquiry of the Office of Education and they certainly should know something of the prevalence of the habit among the school children of the country, if there is a prevalent habit indicates that they have had no occasion to investigate and know nothing of it.
Moreover, there is in the Treasury Department itself, the Public Health Service, with its Division of Mental Hygiene. The Division of Mental Hygiene was, in the first place, the Division of Narcotics. It was converted into the Division of Mental Hygiene, I think, about 1930. That particular Bureau has control at the present time of the narcotics farms that were created about 1929 or 1930 and came into operation a few years later. No one has been summoned from that Bureau to give evidence on that point.
Informal inquiry by me indicates that they have had no record of any marihuana of Cannabis addicts who have ever been committed to those farms.
The bureau of Public Health Service has also a division of pharmacology. If you desire evidence as to the pharmacology of Cannabis, that obviously is the place where you can get direct and primary evidence, rather than the indirect hearsay evidence.
Committee members then proceeded to attack Dr. Woodward, questioning his motives in opposing the legislation. Even the Chairman joined in:
Dr. Woodward: We cannot understand yet, Mr. Chairman, why this bill should have been prepared in secret for 2 years without any intimation, even, to the profession, that it was being prepared.
After some further bantering
"The marihuana cigarette is one of the most insidious of all forms of dope, largely because of the failure of the public to understand its fatal qualities.
The Nation is almost defenseless against it, having no Federal laws to cope with it and virtually no organized campaign for combating it.
The result is tragic.
School children are the prey of peddlers who infest school neighborhoods.
High school boys and girls buy the destructive weed without knowledge of its capacity of harm, and conscienceless dealers sell it with impunity.
This is a national problem, and it must have national attention.
The fatal marihuana cigarette must be recognized as a deadly drug, and American children must be protected against it.
That is a pretty severe indictment. They say it is a national question and that it requires effective legislation. Of course, in a general way, you have responded to all of these statements; but that indicates very clearly that it is an evil of such magnitude that it is recognized by the press of the country as such.
And that was basically it. Yellow journalism won over medical science.
The committee passed the legislation on. And on the floor of the house, the entire discussion was:
Speaker Rayburn: I dont know. It has something to do with a thing called marihuana. I think its a narcotic of some kind.
Mr. Speaker, does the American Medical Association support this bill?
Member on the committee jumps up and says: Their Doctor Wentworth[sic] came down here. They support this bill 100 percent.
And on the basis of that lie, on August 2, 1937, marijuana became illegal at the federal level.
The entire coverage in the New York Times: President Roosevelt signed today a bill to curb traffic in the narcotic, marihuana, through heavy taxes on transactions.
Anslinger was essentially the first Drug Czar. Even though the term didnt exist until William Bennetts position as director of the White House Office of National Drug Policy, Anslinger acted in a similar fashion. In fact, there are some amazing parallels between Anslinger and the current Drug Czar John Walters. Both had kind of a carte blanche to go around demonizing drugs and drug users. Both had resources and a large public podium for their voice to be heard and to promote their personal agenda. Both lied constantly, often when it was unnecessary. Both were racists. Both had the ear of lawmakers, and both realized that they could persuade legislators and others based on lies, particularly if they could co-opt the media into squelching or downplaying any opposition views.
Anslinger even had the ability to circumvent the First Amendment. He banned the Canadian movie Drug Addict, a 1946 documentary that realistically depicted the drug addicts and law enforcement efforts. He even tried to get Canada to ban the movie in their own country, or failing that, to prevent U.S. citizens from seeing the movie in Canada. Canada refused. (Today, Drug Czar John Walters is trying to bully Canada into keeping harsh marijuana laws.)
Anslinger had 37 years to solidify the propaganda and stifle opposition. The lies continued the entire time (although the stories would adjust the 21 year old Florida boy who killed his family of five got younger each time he told it). In 1961, he looked back at his efforts:
I believe we did a thorough job, for the public was alerted and the laws to protect them were passed, both nationally and at the state level. We also brought under control the wild growing marijuana in this country. Working with local authorities, we cleaned up hundreds of acres of marijuana and we uprooted plants sprouting along the roadsides.
On a break from college in the 70s, I was visiting a church in rural Illinois. There in the literature racks in the back of the church was a lurid pamphlet about the evils of marijuana all the old reefer madness propaganda about how it caused insanity and murder. I approached the minister and said You cant have this in your church. Its all lies, and the church shouldnt be about promoting lies. Fortunately, my dad believed me, and he had the material removed. He didnt even know how it got there. But without me speaking up, neither he nor the other members of the church had any reason NOT to believe what the pamphlet said. The propaganda machine had been that effective.
The narrative since then has been a continual litany of:
but thats another whole story.
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Is this satire?
I have a question for the people of Colorado. Are employers there still going to administer drug tests to applicants. Would Marijuana be flagged or not?
And as a businessman, can I trust Colorado companies with my business? Or is everyone going to be in the smoking area getting high?
According to one article I just found, in each of the two years prior to pot being legalized, about 1,000 people who were pulled over for suspicion of driving under the influence tested over the THC limit. In the same article, the police are quoted as saying they have not upped their “pull-over” rates.
This article is written by a moron with no knowledge of anything. Both Russia and China have their drug issues in far greater amount than we do.
This nation did not make drugs illegal for its first 150 years. Wanna show why those years were so terrible?
Sorry. But just like abortion, queer marriages, pedophillia, and so on...
Your personal freedoms do not overide the common good.
Unless of course you think like a liberal.
Hemp makes the best rope in the world.
This is where I stopped reading.
How we going to keep the “EBT” cards out of the POT stores?
Interesting question. Is grass defined as approved product under the agriculture dept regulations?
That’s your argument? That because marijuana was legal 100 years ago, it should still be legal?
How very libertarian of you.
And if President Obama decides that includes you turning over your guns you'll go right along with it, correct?
You know, for the "common good".
On the contrary, “the common good” does NOT over-ride personal freedoms, so long as others are not harmed by their exercise. Abortion and pedophilia cause direct harm to people other than those who practice it. A person smoking a joint in their own house does not.
But thanks for supporting the “gun-grabbers” arguments anyway...
Amen to that.
But it is not unreasonable to decriminalize pot. The anti marijuana crusaders are way off base. In my, and millions of Americans, humble opinion.
How you equate ideals like being against “abortion, queer marriages, pedophillia, and so on...”
with being in favor of Obama deciding we should turn in our guns is fascinating.
Interestingly, “gun control” is also deeply rooted in racism.
In what stoned out frame of mind do you see an argument for the gun-grabbers arguments here?
Its bad enough that you defend illgal drugs, but to make up and insert arguments not on the table is just too liberal.
I have my own (small) business. I've been working as a mechanic for over 40yrs. I have two people working with me and I tell them both I don't care what you do at home, but when your at work, NO BEER, WEED or cell phones texting, etc .
One day (during the summer, 85degs) while pulling a tranny from a customers truck (at his house), the customer came outta the house with two cold beers. He went to hand it to my assistant, but I told him no. He became a little pissed off, but I told him NOT DURING WORK.
If any of my assistants ever came to work drunk, they'd be fired on the spot. I wouldn't blame the alcohol, just as I wouldn't blame the weed.
Yep. A nation of degenerate dopeheads.
America has become a damned sewer of a country. Socialism, dope, and homo-marriage. My interest in its preservation gets smaller and smaller by the day. I suspect by 2016, I won’t even bother voting anymore. There is just no reason to.
with being in favor of Obama deciding we should turn in our guns is fascinating.
No, what's fascinating is how far you seem ready to bend over for the "common good", comrade.
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