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Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer
Los Angeles Times ^ | January 13, 2014, 4:28 p.m. | Adolfo Flores and Paloma Esquivel

Posted on 01/13/2014 4:34:34 PM PST by Yogafist

An Orange County jury Monday found two former Fullerton police officers accused of killing a schizophrenic homeless man, Kelly Thomas, not guilty.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; kellythomas; policestate

1 posted on 01/13/2014 4:34:34 PM PST by Yogafist
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To: Yogafist

Wow, complete miscarriage of justice, from what I’ve read.


2 posted on 01/13/2014 4:37:37 PM PST by ConservativeTeen (Proud Right Wing Extremist)
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To: Yogafist

Twelve idiots.


3 posted on 01/13/2014 4:37:50 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Yogafist

White folk will be rioting in 3, 2, 1 and a half, 1 and a quarter, 1 and an eighth...


4 posted on 01/13/2014 4:42:05 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Yogafist

Not too surprised


5 posted on 01/13/2014 4:43:23 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Yogafist

I am not a fan of F. Lee Bailey but he said something in an interview maybe 20 years ago which got my attention.

He said the American judicial system is not a good one. When asked what he meant, he answered that they often find guilty people innocent and innocent people guilty. From watching a bit of “Court TV” a few years back, I agree with him.


6 posted on 01/13/2014 4:43:44 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Yogafist

It doesn’t surprise me. Seems that if a cop is involved, the only way for a citizen will be able to get justice is to take it into their own hands...

That’s what it’s coming to, and it’s sad.


7 posted on 01/13/2014 4:44:06 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Yogafist

Facts without distorted media reports can’t be hidden in court.

Prosecutor probably over reached as well is my guess.


8 posted on 01/13/2014 4:47:17 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Alaska Wolf

Break out the Champagne...


9 posted on 01/13/2014 4:49:21 PM PST by null and void (It is as if they all had one head. Too bad they don't all have one neck.)
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To: ifinnegan

“Prosecutor probably over reached as well is my guess.”

That wouldn’t be my guess... My guess would be that the prosecutor deliberately threw the case to get a not guilty verdict.


10 posted on 01/13/2014 4:52:04 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: ifinnegan
Prosecutor probably over reached as well is my guess.

When a prosecutor doesn't really want a conviction, he can over-charge, do a poor job convincing the jury that the defendant deserves to be convicted on that charge, not give the jury anything they could reasonably convict him on, and so the jury cuts him loose.

11 posted on 01/13/2014 4:53:28 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Yogafist

Why do people trust authority more and more at exactly the time they have become GANGSTERS...?

This is completely amazing.

Do u realize HOW emboldening this ruling will be to Bad Cops (which seems like most cops, now)....???


12 posted on 01/13/2014 5:01:57 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Yogafist
Before Miranda warnings, convictions were readily made. Liberal judges have endangered us.
13 posted on 01/13/2014 5:07:12 PM PST by Does so ("Miranda Warnings" and loss of "Common-Law Marriage" = 2 Big Mistakes...)
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To: null and void

Yeah, this should make the little girl happy. A lot of howlin’ be goin’ on tonight.


14 posted on 01/13/2014 5:09:51 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: babygene

The prosecutor was the elected District Attorney. Since several other elected officials lost their offices over the case, the chancees that he’d risk throwing it aren’t high.

Take a look at the testimony from Thomas’s grandparents if you want one factor that the jurors gave heavy consideration to.


15 posted on 01/13/2014 5:31:08 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Yogafist

This Jury must have been sleeping through the evidence in this trial because these So Called”Police Officers” are guilty of murder.

These Jurors had better hope they don’t have a loved one driving through Fullerton and getting stopped by these thugs because they very well may regret it.

These cops if they are not guilty of Murder they sure are guilty of Manslaughter.A felony in most Jurisdictions where the sentance is 10 years in prison.

If I were a Family Member of Thomas I would request a civil Rights Investigation by the F.B.I. because thomas’s civil rights were definitely violated under color of law.

This is just another item that indicates the crap hole California has become.Its also another reason why people will have No respect for the law and Law Enforcement agencies.


16 posted on 01/13/2014 5:31:12 PM PST by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Yogafist

The problem with these cases is that no one is looking out for the people. The prosecutor is protecting the government’s interests, not the people’s. He brings a case because he is forced to do so, but wants to protect the government, the police in this case. The jury is inclined to believe the police and respects the prosecutor.

The result is that the police come to believe that they are immune and behave accordingly.

The British justice system is different in that the corner holds an inquest on the body and can act in the victim’s interest. The government can quickly become the defendant without being able to run and hide beneath the politician’s skirts.


17 posted on 01/13/2014 5:48:49 PM PST by centurion316
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To: puppypusher

Christopher Donner may have been a murdering psych case but I’ll concede one of his points-—the police are NOT about protecting you. Just consider that they are armed for self-protection, not your’s nor mine. Cases such as this should be ramming home the above point even to the dullest of citizens.


18 posted on 01/13/2014 5:49:43 PM PST by yadent
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To: Yogafist

The problem with these cases is that no one is looking out for the people. The prosecutor is protecting the government’s interests, not the people’s. He brings a case because he is forced to do so, but wants to protect the government, the police in this case. The jury is inclined to believe the police and respects the prosecutor.

The result is that the police come to believe that they are immune and behave accordingly.

The British justice system is different in that the corner holds an inquest on the body and can act in the victim’s interest. The government can quickly become the defendant without being able to run and hide beneath the politician’s skirts.


19 posted on 01/13/2014 5:50:51 PM PST by centurion316
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To: Yogafist

This is tragic.


20 posted on 01/13/2014 6:19:22 PM PST by not2be4gotten.com
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To: babygene; ifinnegan
That wouldn’t be my guess... My guess would be that the prosecutor deliberately threw the case to get a not guilty verdict.

My guess, as well. If there is a "not guilty" verdict, it makes getting a civil judgment more difficult. If it was a guilty verdict, the only real issue i a civil action is the amount of damages.

21 posted on 01/13/2014 6:21:30 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Yogafist

22 posted on 01/13/2014 6:39:59 PM PST by TaxPayer2000
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To: ifinnegan

It was said that both sides presented the same tapes of the beating and both sides saw what they wanted ti see.

Thomas, from a video, was often out of control, a big string man. Not, the harmessless transient that was being presently.

Maybe the jury had enough people who have been threatened by or scared of a mentally ill homeless person.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-live-verdict-in-kelly-thomas-police-murder-case-20140113,0,5661959.story#axzz2qKtO4JRc


23 posted on 01/13/2014 6:47:45 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: yarddog

I happened to be working at home and watched the entire Louise Woodward trial on Court TV. Couldn’t believe they found her guilty. I never watched trials after that.


24 posted on 01/13/2014 7:36:24 PM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: ifinnegan; babygene; PapaBear3625

The unedited video of the Kelly Thomas arrest and killing:

http://tinyurl.com/cfvwwvd


25 posted on 01/13/2014 8:54:11 PM PST by Pelham (Obamacare, the vanguard of Obammunism)
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To: driftdiver; null and void; PapaBear3625; bobby.223
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3111417/posts

-In other news; the anal probe/ colonoscopy victim of the Deming, New Mexico police department has been awarded $1,600,000 out of court.
-the city won't discuss the settlement of course, and it's not known what, if any punishment will be administered to the officers involved in this anal rape case.

26 posted on 01/14/2014 5:36:24 AM PST by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger than yours)
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To: BunnySlippers
Maybe the jury had enough people who have been threatened by or scared of a mentally ill homeless person.

Then they lied in their jury interviews and should not have been on the jury.

27 posted on 01/14/2014 5:51:33 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: ConservativeTeen
Yeah - this is tragic. Have you seen the video? The man was beaten to death without provocation. This is not my blog:

http://www.freedominourtime.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2014-01-08T11:12:00-07:00
28 posted on 01/14/2014 5:58:40 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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AlmostAjuror at 10:13 PM January 13, 2014

I was in the jury pool and was called to the jury box along with 16 others. After questioning by the attorneys two jurors were dismissed for cause. Then the attorneys started dismissing jurors with peremptory chalanges. I was the first one dismissed py the prosecution. I think only a few were dismissed before the jury was accepted.

I read the detailed reports of each day of the trial. I would not have voted not guilty on all charges. At the very least it was use of excessive force. I think the prosecution made a mistake by kicking me off the jury.

I would not have voted guilty on second degree murder.

Does anyone know exactly what they were charged with??

Were they charged with Excessive Use of Force???


29 posted on 01/14/2014 7:08:43 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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