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Mexico urges vigilantes to stand down in drug gang conflict
Reuters UK ^ | 1-14-14 | Michael O'Boyle, Anahi Rama and Lizbeth Diaz

Posted on 01/13/2014 4:51:01 PM PST by smokingfrog

Mexico's government on Monday pledged to take control of a violent western state after days of fighting between masked vigilantes and members of one of the country's most powerful drug cartels.

Since late last year, vigilante groups in the state of Michoacan have moved deeper into territory controlled by the Knights Templar cartel and they now are converging on Apatzingan, considered one of gang's main strongholds.

The vigilantes' advance has raised the risk of a bloody urban battle in Apatzingan. Interior Minister Miguel Angel Osorio Chong on Monday urged the vigilante groups to withdraw from the battleground so federal forces could take control.

"Be certain that we will contain the violence in Michoacan," Osorio Chong said at an event in the state capital of Morelia.

President Enrique Pena Nieto, who just ended his first year in office, has sought to shift the public focus away from grinding violence and onto a series of economic reforms he has pushed through a divided Congress.

But a steady stream of killings that plagued his predecessor's term continues, and the deepening crisis in Michoacan is beginning to cast doubt on his ability to maintain order. Drug trafficking gangs have been waging battles over trafficking routes for the last decade.

(Excerpt) Read more at uk.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: drugwars

1 posted on 01/13/2014 4:51:01 PM PST by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Lay off the cartels or the politicians don’t get this month’s payola.


2 posted on 01/13/2014 4:54:01 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The War on Drugs has been used as an excuse to steal your rights. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: smokingfrog

Screw the federales guys.


3 posted on 01/13/2014 4:54:37 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: smokingfrog

Trust the federales.


4 posted on 01/13/2014 4:54:55 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: smokingfrog

They’ll all be dead in a week. Same thing would happen here.


5 posted on 01/13/2014 4:56:33 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Bad for business!

Gotta get those “economic reforms” passed.


6 posted on 01/13/2014 4:57:31 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

If they trust the army, they’ll be dead in short order.


7 posted on 01/13/2014 4:58:53 PM PST by marron
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To: Caipirabob

From what I’ve heard, the vigilantes are kicking butt.


8 posted on 01/13/2014 4:59:04 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

They’ve been going strong for a while and appear to be gaining steam.


9 posted on 01/13/2014 4:59:45 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: smokingfrog

“The price of FREEDOM is Eternal Vigilance”.

Since the Government is in bed with the Cartels, this is what they shall reap.

That can be said for our very own U.S. Government.

Lay with dogs and don’t be surprised to find yourself covered in fleas.


10 posted on 01/13/2014 5:01:10 PM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: smokingfrog
Call "Don" Holder and Rep. Issa... get competitive bids.... this is all about money $$$$. .

This can only resolved by clean cash.... Whodda thunk that?

11 posted on 01/13/2014 5:03:06 PM PST by ptsal (Repubicans swallowing more kool-aide from Rove & Kristol)
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To: smokingfrog

if they were serious they’d join the vigilante forces and deal with the cartel.


12 posted on 01/13/2014 5:03:33 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: smokingfrog

Mahn, choo doan wanna mase weet are pahrtners! Leeb dem lone!


13 posted on 01/13/2014 5:06:38 PM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: smokingfrog

Translation:

Stop your advance or the Government will help the cartels survive.

They would be best served to regroup and grow their forces all across the country to take on both the Cartels and eventually their own corrupt government, IMO.

Of course, I advocate the same here, but even though most will find any excuse not to fight, perhaps enough would be willing to sacrifice everything for a chance to set things right in this country once again before it’s truly too late.


14 posted on 01/13/2014 5:08:59 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

> Lay off the cartels or the politicians don’t get this month’s payola.

Nail on the head.


15 posted on 01/13/2014 5:10:44 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: smokingfrog

Sounds like the vigilantes may be a little too effective. So the government needs to take over and contain the violence to insure no more cartel members are needlessly killed.


16 posted on 01/13/2014 5:12:08 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: Howie66

> “The price of FREEDOM is Eternal Vigilance”.

Since the Government is in bed with the Cartels, this is what they shall reap.

That can be said for our very own U.S. Government.

Lay with dogs and don’t be surprised to find yourself covered in fleas.

Our problem is we have dog pounds everywhere


17 posted on 01/13/2014 5:12:36 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Conspiracy Guy

> Sounds like the vigilantes may be a little too effective. So the government needs to take over and contain the violence to insure no more cartel members are needlessly killed.

LOL


18 posted on 01/13/2014 5:14:27 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: smokingfrog

Vigilantes are taking matters into their own hands to root out corruption? I guess Mexicans really ARE willing to do the jobs Americans won’t.


19 posted on 01/13/2014 5:17:14 PM PST by optiguy (Winter is coming.)
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To: smokingfrog

This raises two important issues in the US.

The first is gun control, where the arguments for or against gun liberty are generally over either self-defense or to overthrow a tyrannical government.

But this shows a third scenario: under a supposedly intensive gun control regime, the people have been forced to take up *illegal* arms as vigilantes against organized crime organizations the government is incapable of stopping, or unwilling to stop.

The other thing is vigilantism. In the US, the government, academia and the media all damn vigilantism up one side and down the other as racist, criminal, and unjust. But here is an excellent case of vigilantism doing what it is supposed to do: taking the place of an ineffectual and corrupt government, and protecting the people by driving out the organized criminals.

It is vital that Americans are aware of this, because we are always close to being in a similar situation. Not just guns for self-defense, or the idea of somehow overthrowing a corrupt and decadent federal government; but as the means to take care of ourselves against criminal organizations, gangsters and mafias.


20 posted on 01/13/2014 5:18:23 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (There Is Still A Very Hot War On Terror, Just Not On The MSM. Rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

There was a time when we had little in the way of taxpayer funded law enforcement in this country and that lack was covered by citizens.


21 posted on 01/13/2014 5:23:17 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: smokingfrog

Does “we will contain the violence in Michoacan” mean that they will eliminate the cartels?


22 posted on 01/13/2014 5:29:00 PM PST by jdege
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To: smokingfrog

“Interior Minister Miguel Angel Osorio Chong”

Oh that’s rich! Probably “related” to Tommy Chong of Cheech and Chong fame. I mean what’s next, Fernando Kitajima for El Presidente!


23 posted on 01/13/2014 5:43:39 PM PST by vette6387
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Good points.


24 posted on 01/13/2014 5:57:35 PM PST by gettinolder
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To: jdege

I doubt it.


25 posted on 01/13/2014 6:08:36 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

If the gov’t was protecting the subjects, the subjects wouldn’t have to take things into their own hands.

Let that be a lesson to the current administration. I’m glad these folks were able to arm themselves.


26 posted on 01/13/2014 6:19:12 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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To: smokingfrog; All

Mexican govt wants vigilantes to stop because the govt is working with the Drug Cartels


27 posted on 01/13/2014 6:26:48 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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To: smokingfrog
Never occurred to them to ask the cartels to stand down.

28 posted on 01/13/2014 6:29:20 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: jsanders2001

Yeah. No shit.


29 posted on 01/13/2014 6:50:45 PM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: smokingfrog

If disarmed Mexican vigilantes can take on the cartels, and incite a plea for peace from the federales, imagine what fear we well armed American patriots strike in the heart of the socialist overlord.


30 posted on 01/13/2014 7:01:37 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: Born to Conserve

> If disarmed Mexican vigilantes can take on the cartels, and incite a plea for peace from the federales, imagine what fear we well armed American patriots strike in the heart of the socialist overlord.

I have heard they are “concerned” which translated probably means they’re not sure who’s stupid enough to follow them over the cliff anymore...


31 posted on 01/13/2014 7:18:36 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: smokingfrog

“Mexico urges vigilantes to stand down in drug gang conflict”

I figured this was exactly what the outcome was going to be when I read articles a few weeks ago that said the Mexican government was going to help locals who had banned together and had successfully gone after the cartels running amock because the authorities were doing nothing to stop the criminals that were attacking the good folk across the board.


32 posted on 01/13/2014 7:34:39 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: smokingfrog

This is a good reminder of the reason for the 2nd Amendment, and just who is the militia it talks about. And why we need it.


33 posted on 01/13/2014 7:34:40 PM PST by marron
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To: smokingfrog

If the vigilantes are successful in rooting out the Cartel, the Federales are worried they’ll be next.


34 posted on 01/13/2014 7:36:55 PM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: smokingfrog

Guess that means the vigilantes are winning; can’t have that....


35 posted on 01/13/2014 9:46:17 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ?............................ Enforce the Bill of Rights............ It's the LAW !!!)
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