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Thus Spake the Potheads: The main arguments used to legitimize pot are pap.
American Thinker ^ | 01/13/2013 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 01/13/2014 5:41:21 PM PST by SeekAndFind

It's starting to appear as if marijuana users have become the homosexual lobby of the chemically dependent. What do I mean? Duck Dynasty's Phil Robertson could mention one sexual behavior (adultery) as disqualifying someone from the "kingdom of God," but mentioning that "other" sexual behavior? That's a boycottin', pardner! Likewise, there's no shortage of articles about the perils of smoking tobacco -- about how it causes lung cancer, emphysema and premature aging; about how it's a dirty, nasty habit -- all without indignant smokers crawling out of the woodwork to protest, between hacking coughs, that their passion is being unfairly demonized. But dare imply that inhaling copious amounts of marijuana smoke may not be one of Dr. Oz's top ten health recommendations, and, well, the potheads cometh.

[SNIP]

While most agree that casual drinking -- one or two drinks -- is fine and may even offer health benefits, it's universally acknowledged that drunkenness is destructive, ugly and reckless. In accordance with the old PSA, "If you have to drink to be social, it's not social drinking," it's accepted that if you have to get inebriated to deal with life, you have a problem.

[SNIP]

So I'll say that if you want to have one or two small puffs of a marijuana cigarette, fine. But you've crossed the line if you get high.

Deal?

This puts the lie to the alcohol/pot comparison. There are millions of casual drinkers who may have a beer or glass of wine with dinner but have no intention of getting tipsy. Except, however, for the few who use pot for legitimate medical purposes (and I'm dubious about the necessity of this, mind you), the goal of a marijuana smoker is ever and always to get high (drunk). The intention is always to alter his mental state.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: legalization; marijuana; pot
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1 posted on 01/13/2014 5:41:22 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe they’ll issue ditch weed to the slackers when they’re in the concentration camps.


2 posted on 01/13/2014 5:43:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Most casual drinkers just drink to relax. To catch a buzz, in other words. Or maybe it’s the great taste.

At any rate, the country can longer afford Pot Prohibition, much like it could no longer afford Alcohol Prohibition. Money talks.


3 posted on 01/13/2014 5:44:11 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: SeekAndFind
Stoned Colorado driver crashes into 2 Patrol vehicles
4 posted on 01/13/2014 5:46:13 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: SeekAndFind

To keep the populace satiated you must give them something. They don’t have jobs, medical care is going, food will soon be out of a lab, all thats left is to keep them high.


5 posted on 01/13/2014 5:47:36 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s America 2014 for you... dope and homosex.

To be perfectly reflective of what a degenerate cesspool the country has become, the American flag should probably replace the stars-and-stripes with anuses and marijuana leaves. Obama’s America.


6 posted on 01/13/2014 5:48:17 PM PST by greene66
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To: SeekAndFind
The drug warriors are in panic mode.

People are voting to repeal laws that we never got to vote for in the first place and they find this troublesome. What's going to happen to the poor DEA when state after state follows Colorado and Washington's lead and decriminalizes weed? Oh my, their budgets just might have to get cut.

7 posted on 01/13/2014 5:49:23 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

We just can’t have adults deciding these things for themselves. Government control being the Conservative mantra, and all. But, hey, at least we’ve exposed that “Don’t Tread On Me” bullshit.


8 posted on 01/13/2014 5:51:06 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: SeekAndFind

I say we give them what they want, and overturn Wickard v Filburn.


9 posted on 01/13/2014 5:52:24 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: SeekAndFind

Drugs In Your Head : Foamy The Squirrel
A rant about drug users and some of their idiotic excuses for using them.
(warning: bad language)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nAZi_eUjoU


10 posted on 01/13/2014 5:53:04 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: SeekAndFind

Dave’s not here.


11 posted on 01/13/2014 5:53:49 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Wolfie
At any rate, the country can longer afford Pot Prohibition, much like it could no longer afford Alcohol Prohibition. Money talks.

We can easily afford pot prohibition. Just fine people instead of jail. If you are a user you pay $300 for the first offense and this increases for subsequent offenses. If you are a dealer you pay a $5000 fine but this rises depending on how much you possess when busted. Since marijuana is not addictive then people will quit using it rather than risk rising fines. Marijuana is for idiots in need of some education...a beer or two or wine or whiskey is the traditional intoxicant in this civilization

12 posted on 01/13/2014 5:56:25 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: tacticalogic

Adults should be free to do as they wish, even if they make choices that other people don’t agree with.

If you don’t agree with alcohol use, tobacco use, pot use, or hard drug use, than don’t use them.


13 posted on 01/13/2014 5:57:29 PM PST by Ueriah
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To: SeekAndFind

I fully support any doper (pot, meth, coke, etc.) moving from Texas to Colorado or Washington to exercise there freedom.


14 posted on 01/13/2014 5:58:02 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (It's difficult to differentiate between a hog calling contest and a Senate rollcall.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

As a fellow Texan, I agree wholeheartedly. Let the dopehead filth migrate the hell out of my state.


15 posted on 01/13/2014 6:00:03 PM PST by greene66
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To: Ueriah

Overturning Wickard v Filburn would have ramifications well beyond pot prohibtion, and drug laws in general. Great swaths of federal bureaucracy would suddenly have no claim of constitutional authority.


16 posted on 01/13/2014 6:00:49 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: SeekAndFind

Tax it all you want. The money will be used to hire Democrats for government jobs or to buy Democrat votes.


17 posted on 01/13/2014 6:03:47 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Wolfie

One of my main problems with legalizing it, is that it will be taxed. When the government and big business get money from pot, the will make the Zetas look like kindergarten. If it should be legalized, it should only be on the condition it is not taxed at all.


18 posted on 01/13/2014 6:06:16 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Ueriah
Adults should be free to do as they wish

So an adult should be free to attack from me and rob me?

19 posted on 01/13/2014 6:07:45 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: icwhatudo

Always wondered why police don’t have a forensic field test to document marijuana levels the way they can check for alcohol intoxication.


20 posted on 01/13/2014 6:08:08 PM PST by allendale
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To: icwhatudo

Always wondered why police don’t have a forensic field test to document marijuana levels the way they can check for alcohol intoxication.


21 posted on 01/13/2014 6:08:08 PM PST by allendale
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To: blueunicorn6

If you tax it, then you are making the U.S. government into the largest drug cartel in the world. And they will act accordingly.


22 posted on 01/13/2014 6:09:43 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: SeekAndFind
Eh. I favor legalization not because I like pot... not a user, thanks... but because the cure is worse than the disease.

I don't think the war on pot is worth what it's costing us in freedom.

23 posted on 01/13/2014 6:11:42 PM PST by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: nickcarraway
And they will act accordingly.

The government ALREADY acts like a crack dealer strung out on it's own goods.

/johnny

24 posted on 01/13/2014 6:16:03 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SeekAndFind

As the cowboys wiped out the pot headed indians, so shall the chinese military and islamists terrorists wipe out the weakened pot headed blue states.

Non survival of the pot heads, who are unfit to survive.


25 posted on 01/13/2014 6:16:36 PM PST by Vision Thing (obama wants his suicidal worshipers to become suicidal bombers.)
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To: Wolfie
Congratulations. You are the first commenter on this annoying subject to my knowledge who identifies that this BS is driven by money.
26 posted on 01/13/2014 6:17:11 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: SeekAndFind

I know a guy who became a pothead. It seems like there is no place to sleazy, no dealer to degenerate, no neighborhood too dangerous for him to run to when he needs to get his marijuana fix.

It really has made him a lot dumber.


27 posted on 01/13/2014 6:17:24 PM PST by MNDude
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To: Oberon

what about the war on meth, crack, heroin

How soon before libertarians are demanding we erase or lower the age of consent or decriminalize drug use for minors?


28 posted on 01/13/2014 6:17:26 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Drew68

“People are voting to repeal laws that we never got to vote for in the first place and they find this troublesome.”

^^This

Leave all the other arguments aside, whether you are pro, or anti-prohibition. We should all be able to agree that laws the Federal government is enforcing need to actually be enacted lawfully, and fall within the lawful scope of the government. If they needed an amendment to prohibit alcohol, then they should have passed an amendment to prohibit other types of intoxicants as well.


29 posted on 01/13/2014 6:17:55 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: nickcarraway

-1 Obvious use of Straw man.

“Your freedom of expression ends at the tip of my noise”.


30 posted on 01/13/2014 6:18:40 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: allendale

Because people claim pot has no possible negative tests.


31 posted on 01/13/2014 6:18:43 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: dennisw

Great idea! Let’s do the same for alcohol first and see if it works.


32 posted on 01/13/2014 6:19:30 PM PST by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms in Dixie!)
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To: MNDude

I know someone who was looking for pot and almost got caught in a raid but he was lucky it happened before he got out of his car. They did arrest a guy with a bunch of cocaine and heroin.

Stupid people going to stupid places to do stupid things


33 posted on 01/13/2014 6:20:05 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You are very naive to think it can’t get much, much worse.


34 posted on 01/13/2014 6:20:37 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: GeronL
what about the war on meth, crack, heroin

Different drugs, different effects, more harm... those are worth banning. Still, pot use is more widespread than any of these, and its the marijuana busts that pay for the SWAT team equipment for your local Barney Fife squad.

I hope none of those guys come around and shoot my dog, or yours for that matter.

35 posted on 01/13/2014 6:22:24 PM PST by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: Vision Thing

“As the cowboys wiped out the pot headed indians...”

I don’t think the indians were known for that. The stuff isn’t even native to this continent, we brought it over here with us.


36 posted on 01/13/2014 6:24:37 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: nickcarraway
Worse is a matter of degree. Government already acts unconstitutionally in legislating about drugs at the federal level.

Police powers are a State power, and should never have been federal.

You are naive to not understand just how bad it already is.

/johnny

37 posted on 01/13/2014 6:25:43 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Usagi_yo
Look at what he wrote. He didn't say anything limiting it from others.


You argument might work if we weren't living in a welfare state. You claim it's not going to harm me. But as it stands now, the government will take my hard earned money to give to the pot users. And you know it will. Don't claim legalization is libertarian in our world. How is taking money from me to support pot users and their administration libertarian. It's not, it's socialist, or worse.

38 posted on 01/13/2014 6:27:02 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: allendale

I think the physical symptoms are more consistent for alcohol, so it’s easier to make an objective judgment.


39 posted on 01/13/2014 6:27:03 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Wolfie

Dope n 1. a drug to screw up the mind, 2. one who uses the drug.


40 posted on 01/13/2014 6:30:13 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: icwhatudo

Would it really irritate you if for every one of those you post, someone posts a link of a SWAT team raid breaking into the wrong house looking for pot (or any drug for that matter), murdering someone and not finding what they’re looking for?


41 posted on 01/13/2014 6:31:29 PM PST by SwankyC (Democrats and Republicans agree, govt coercion is OK if it fits your idea of whats OK)
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To: SeekAndFind

Steppenwolf - The Pusher
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XqyGoE2Q4Y


42 posted on 01/13/2014 6:31:52 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Oberon
So you are okay with the government taking money from me to pay for potheads pot, welfare, healthcare, culture, etc.

You are not a libertarian, you are a socialist. Don't tell me that legalization is libertarian until we have a government that won't punish nonusers for the actions of users.

Why do you think Soros is funding legalization? He said it's the backdoor gateway to total socialism.

43 posted on 01/13/2014 6:31:53 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: dennisw

You know what happens to poor people that can’t pay the fines? They get sent to jail. Then they lose their job and still can’t pay the fines, penalties and interest. So it’s back to jail.

Fines only work in theory. In practice, it racks up large enforcement costs for swat teams to serve arrest warrants on broke dopeheads.

We can’t afford enforcement OR the loss of civil freedoms to our overmilitarized law enforcement.

Legalization is about starving the beast.


44 posted on 01/13/2014 6:34:16 PM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with brute force, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: SwankyC

So we have to have one or the other? Pot users killing nonuser or destroying their property is justified to you?


45 posted on 01/13/2014 6:34:26 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
taking money from me to pay for potheads pot, welfare, healthcare, culture, etc.

Newsflash for you. The government already does. Because the prohibition laws don't stop people from smoking pot.

/johnny

46 posted on 01/13/2014 6:34:36 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SeekAndFind

Could God be more useful than someone to pride yourself on and damn folks you don’t like?

Consider that “pot heads” were hardly even CARED about until the Reefer Madness days. Alcohol was a recorded factor of a fair number of historical scandals. Alcohol prohibition proved a bust. This sterner ban of a historically milder item is a farce (interdiction catches maybe 10% of it).

We have a SYMPTOM here folks... not a CAUSE. Pot is, at WORST, the canary in the mine. People have quit believing that the Lord cares for humanity. And things far, far worse than pot (and many of them perfectly legal or even requisite today) are going on as a consequence.

Leave pot alone. Do NOT leave God alone!


47 posted on 01/13/2014 6:35:50 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Because the prohibition laws don't stop people from smoking pot.

So they already can. You admit it. Without the government officially endorsing it and officially support it, and officially take my money for it. People can already do it, as long as they are not stupid. So what is the problem?

48 posted on 01/13/2014 6:37:18 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Kozak

To compare alcohol (our traditional intoxicant) to pot is juvenile. Marijuana has no place in European and American history...or at best very very minor. Pot smoking was as common as gay marraige.....

Yeah I know. The new generations are going to change things for the better (what a joke)


49 posted on 01/13/2014 6:37:19 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: nickcarraway
The problem is that people that don't smoke dope are getting caught up in the heavy-handed enforcement crap that the government does. It's called loss of freedom.

/johnny

50 posted on 01/13/2014 6:40:11 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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